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Aug 28, 2008 7:57 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
NEBRASKA....Scottsbluff - WWII German POW camp (renovated?). Northwest, Northeast corners of state - FEMA detention facilities - more data needed. South Central part of state - Many old WWII sites - some may be renovated.

NEVADA....Elko - Ten miles south of town. Wells - Camp is located in the O'Niel basin area, 40 miles north of Wells, past Thousand Springs, west off Hwy 93 for 25 miles. Pershing County - Camp is located at I-80 mile marker 112, south side of the highway, about a mile back on the county road and then just off the road about 3/4mi. Winnemucca - Battle Mountain area - at the base of the mountains. Nellis Air Force Range - Northwest from Las Vegas on Route 95. Nellis AFB is just north of Las Vegas on Hwy 604. Stillwater Naval Air Station - east of Reno . No additional data.

NEW HAMPSHIRE / VERMONT ....Northern Vermont - near Lake Francis - (Renovated?) WWII detention camp.

NEW JERSEY ....
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Aug 28, 2008 8:00 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
2catchastar: MARYLAND, and DC ....Ft. Meade - Halfway between the District of Criminals and Baltimore. Data needed. Ft. Detrick - Biological warfare center for the NWO, located in Frederick.

MASSACHUSETTS ....Camp Edwards / Otis AFB - Cape Cod - This "inactive" base is being converted to hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown.

MICHIGAN....



Girl, I just LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have been doing your homework!

But you could list all day long and never cover ALL of the camps...
There are over 800 US camps and more being built daily, by... haliburton!
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Aug 28, 2008 8:02 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
NEW JERSEY ....Ft. Dix / McGuire AFB - Possible deportation point for detainees. Lots of pictures taken of detention compounds and posted on Internet, this camp is well-known. Facility is now complete and ready for occupancy.

NEW MEXICO ....Ft. Bliss - This base actually straddles Texas state line. Just south of Alomogordo, Ft. Bliss has thousands of acres for people who refuse to go with the "New Order". Holloman AFB (Alomogordo)- Home of the German Luftwaffe in Amerika; major UN base. New facility being built on this base, according to recent visitors. Many former USAF buildings have been torn down by the busy and rapidly growing German military force located here. Fort Stanton - currently being used as a youth detention facility approximately 35 miles north of Ruidoso, New Mexico. Not a great deal of information concerning the Lordsburg location. White Sands Missile Range - Currently being used as a storage facility for United Nations vehicles and equipment. Observers have seen this material brought in on the Whitesands rail spur in Oro Grande New Mexico about thirty miles from the Texas, New Mexico Border.

NEW YORK ....Ft. Drum - two compounds: Rex 84 detention camp and FEMA detention facility. Albany - FEMA detention facility. Otisville - Federal correctional facility, near Middletown. Buffalo - FEMA detention facility.

NORTH CAROLINA ....Camp Lejeune / New River Marine Airfield - facility has renovated, occupied WWII detention compounds and "mock city" that closely resembles Anytown, USA. Fort Bragg - Special Warfare Training Center. Renovated WWII detention facility. Andrews - Federal experiment in putting a small town under siege. Began with the search/ hunt for survivalist Eric Rudolph. No persons are allowed in or out of town without federal permission. Travel through town is highly restricted. Most residents are compelled to stay in their homes. Unregistered Baptist pastor from Indiana visiting Andrews affirmed these facts.
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Aug 28, 2008 8:06 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
OKLAHOMA....Tinker AFB (OKC) - All base personnel are prohibited from going near civilian detention area, which is under constant guard. Will Rogers World Airport - FEMA's main processing center for west of the Mississippi. All personnel are kept out of the security zone. Federal prisoner transfer center located here (A pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up to). Photos have been taken and this site will try to post soon! El Reno - Renovated federal internment facility with CURRENT population of 12,000 on Route 66. McAlester - near Army Munitions Plant property - former WWII German / Italian POW camp designated for future use. Ft. Sill (Lawton) - Former WWII detention camps. More data still needed.


OREGON....Sheridan - Federal prison satellite camp northwest of Salem. Josephine County - WWII Japanese internment camp ready for renovation. Sheridan - FEMA detention center. Umatilla - New prison spotted.



PENNSYLVANIA....Allenwood - Federal prison camp located south of Williamsport on the Susquehanna River. It has a current inmate population of 300, and is identified by William Pabst as having a capacity in excess of 15,000 on 400 acres. Indiantown Gap Military Reservation - located north of Harrisburg. Used for WWII POW camp and renovated by Jimmy Carter. Was used to hold Cubans during Mariel boat lift. Camp Hill - State prison close to Army depot. Lots of room, located in Camp Hill, Pa. New Cumberland Army Depot - on the Susquehanna River, located off Interstate 83 and Interstate 76. Schuylkill Haven - Federal prison camp, north of Reading.


SOUTH DAKOTA ....Yankton - Federal prison camp Black Hills Nat'l Forest - north of Edgemont, southwest part of state. WWII internment camp being renovated.
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Aug 28, 2008 8:09 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
TENNESSEE ....Ft. Campbell - Next to Land Between the Lakes; adjacent to airfield and US Alt. 41. Millington - Federal prison camp next door to Memphis Naval Air Station. Crossville - WWII German / Italian prison camp may be renovated. Nashville - There are two buildings built on State property that are definitely built to hold prisoners. They are identical buildings - side by side. High barbed wire fence that curves inward.

TEXAS....Austin - Municipal airport has a restricted-access area off limits to everyone. Ft. Hood (Killeen) - Newly built concentration camp, with towers, barbed wire etc., just like the one featured in the movie Amerika. Mock city for NWO shock- force training. Some footage of this area was used in "Waco: A New Revelation" Reese AFB (Lubbock) - FEMA designated detention facility. Sheppard AFB - in Wichita Falls just south of Ft. Sill, OK. FEMA designated detention facility. North Dallas - near Carrolton - water treatment plant, close to interstate and railroad. Mexia - East of Waco 33mi.; WWII German facility may be renovated. Amarillo - FEMA designated detention facility Ft. Bliss (El Paso) - Extensive renovation of buildings and from what patriots have been able to see, many of these buildings that are being renovated are being surrounded by razor wire. Beaumont / Port Arthur area - hundreds of acres of federal camps already built on large-scale detention camp design, complete with the double rows of chain link fencing with razor type concertina wire on top of each row. Some (but not all) of these facilities are currently being used for low-risk state prisoners who require a minimum of supervision. Ft. Worth - Federal prison under construction on the site of Carswell AFB.

UTAH....Millard County - Central Utah - WWII Japanese camp. (Renovated?) Ft. Douglas - This "inactive" military reservation has a renovated WWII concentration camp. Migratory Bird Refuge - West of Brigham City - contains a WWII internment camp that was built before the game preserve was established. Cedar City - east of city - no data available. Wendover - WWII internment camp may be renovated. Skull Valley - southwestern Camp William property - east of the old bombing range. Camp was accidentally discovered by a man and his son who were rabbit hunting; they were discovered and apprehended. SW of Tooele.
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Aug 28, 2008 8:31 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
Now I realize that the above can be very boring reading. And so many people will just leave it to someone else. But should we not at least question what is taking lace in this country? Are we cattle to be lead to slaughter? The only wat to learn is to ask questions, Isn't it?
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Aug 28, 2008 8:42 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
whats really twisted about all these detainments facilities is this, in michigan alone the shortage of jails and prisons are causing many criminals sentenced to less than a year to be released early due to the over crowding and 2catchastar is posting all these facilities.... whats up with that?

America what a country lawbreakers set free but they are saving these places mentioned for dissidents.

Just another collective Legislative blunder that has given our executive branch's Gestapo ( homeland Security) the right and freedom to prepare such places while acting within the law.

Fools are those that believe one man will change this.

will the next president fight to have these powers awarded the Executive branch recalled/removed?
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Aug 28, 2008 8:52 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
Halliburton subsidiary “KBR has been awarded a contract announced by the
Department of Homeland Security’s United States Immigration and Customs
Enforcement (ICE) component. The Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity
contingency contract is to support ICE facilities and has a maximum total value
of $385 million over a five year term. The contract provides for establishing
temporary detention and processing capabilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the United States
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Aug 28, 2008 8:57 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
A History of Executive Orders....
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and ?aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.
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Aug 28, 2008 8:58 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
Should we be worried yet?
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Aug 28, 2008 9:12 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
EXCELLENT!! BRAVO!! When are you going to collect your Citizen Patriot Of the Decade Award????????? Great work!! %) Thank you!
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Aug 28, 2008 9:14 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
An article co-written by a former Congressman and carried by the San Francisco Chronicle has gained much attention recently as it shines light on a coordinated federal government program to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States.

"Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs." write Lewis Seiler and former Congressman Dan Hamburg of the watchdog group Voice of the Environment, Inc.

Voice of the Environment's mission is to educate the public regarding the transfer of public trust assets into private, mostly corporate, hands.

The article continues:

Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.

According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."
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Aug 28, 2008 9:15 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
fireliter: Is anybody paying attention!!!!

Who gave the president these rights???

the majority still insists the president should be held accountable.

Not to divert any responsibility from our current commander-in-chief, but seriously that boy was kicked in the head at a very young age and has not been right since. which explains why his daddy keeps him in the family business.

Please get a clue the powers the president has acquired came from those yokels(never our fault) Legislative branch. you want change place a tent over congress and the white house and begin the fumigating process.
end game,soldiers were asked,if they would fire on usa citizens,over 80% said yes!20%,who said no!were not allowed,to reup for army,etc.scary.
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Aug 28, 2008 9:21 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
That was an excellent overview of the USG's current march toward tyranny. All of the above should be mandatory reading for any American who cares about retaining liberty (to the limited extent it still exists).

thumbs up frustrated wave sad flower
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Aug 28, 2008 9:27 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
fireliter: whats really twisted about all these detainments facilities is this, in michigan alone the shortage of jails and prisons are causing many criminals sentenced to less than a year to be released early due to the over crowding and 2catchastar is posting all these facilities.... whats up with that?

America what a country lawbreakers set free but they are saving these places mentioned for dissidents.

Just another collective Legislative blunder that has given our executive branch's Gestapo ( homeland Security) the right and freedom to prepare such places while acting within the law.

Fools are those that believe one man will change this.

will the next president fight to have these powers awarded the Executive branch recalled/removed?


Ron Paul *would've* fought to remove all this...at least for the short time he would've been president (until killed or otherwise removed).
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Aug 28, 2008 9:36 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Gives one an idea why they had to get rid of Kennedy.
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Aug 28, 2008 9:54 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it.
George W. Bush

America must not ignore the threat gathering against us. Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.
George W. Bush

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ???????????????
George W. Bush

am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself, but for predecessors as well.
George W. Bush

I understand everybody in this country doesn't agree with the decisions I've made. And I made some tough decisions. But people know where I stand.
George W. Bush

If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign.
George W. Bush

It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas.
George W. Bush

It's going to be the year of the sharp elbow and the quick tongue.
George W. Bush

The true history of my administration will be written 50 years from now, and you and I will not be around to see it.
George W. Bush

You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.
George W. Bush
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Aug 28, 2008 9:57 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
2catchastar:
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.
George W. Bush


Wow...that last quote is actually quite clever. Are you sure Bush said/wrote that??confused dunno wow
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Aug 28, 2008 9:59 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar
2catchastar2catchastarCorning, New York USA10 Threads 830 Posts
Ambrose2007: Wow...that last quote is actually quite clever. Are you sure Bush said/wrote that??

He said it! Question is who was it directed towards?
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Aug 28, 2008 10:19 AM CST Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law
2catchastar: He said it! Question is who was it directed towards?



According to a BBC news dated Sun March 25,2001 Bush made that comment:

You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on, at the Gridiron Club dinner. He said those words which were given to him as advice by Democrat Robert Strauss.
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