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Oct 13, 2008 9:22 AM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
The McCain campaign and the RNC are still using ads that link Obama and 1960s radical William Ayers. Now Polifact



has examined the ads closely and concluded that the claim that Obama and Ayers ran a radical education foundation together is a "pants-on-fire" lie. While it is true that Obama was the nominal head of the foundation in question, Ayers never had a paid position on the foundation's staff, never was on the board, and never had a vote on anything. His connection to Obama was attending some board meetings that were open to the public, and this 20 years after his radical days, by which time he had reformed enough to get a Ph.D. in education from Columbia University and was able to win Chicago's "Citizen of the Year" award in 1997 for his work for nonprofit organizations. In short, while Ayers was a despicable person in his youth, the McCain campaign's relentless harping on the close relationship between Obama and Ayers is very misleading. They weren't close at all.
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Oct 13, 2008 9:34 AM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA30 Threads 2,969 Posts
ooby_dooby: The McCain campaign and the RNC are still using ads that link Obama and 1960s radical William Ayers. Now Polifact



has examined the ads closely and concluded that the claim that Obama and Ayers ran a radical education foundation together is a "pants-on-fire" lie. While it is true that Obama was the nominal head of the foundation in question, Ayers never had a paid position on the foundation's staff, never was on the board, and never had a vote on anything. His connection to Obama was attending some board meetings that were open to the public, and this 20 years after his radical days, by which time he had reformed enough to get a Ph.D. in education from Columbia University and was able to win Chicago's "Citizen of the Year" award in 1997 for his work for nonprofit organizations. In short, while Ayers was a despicable person in his youth, the McCain campaign's relentless harping on the close relationship between Obama and Ayers is very misleading. They weren't close at all.




While I believe that this is blown way out of context...it is a fact that O'Bama knew Ayers well enough to have kicked off his campaign for Congress in the Ayers, home.
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Oct 13, 2008 12:52 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
ooby_dooby: The McCain campaign and the RNC are still using ads that link Obama and 1960s radical William Ayers. Now Polifact



has examined the ads closely and concluded that the claim that Obama and Ayers ran a radical education foundation together is a "pants-on-fire" lie. While it is true that Obama was the nominal head of the foundation in question, Ayers never had a paid position on the foundation's staff, never was on the board, and never had a vote on anything. His connection to Obama was attending some board meetings that were open to the public, and this 20 years after his radical days, by which time he had reformed enough to get a Ph.D. in education from Columbia University and was able to win Chicago's "Citizen of the Year" award in 1997 for his work for nonprofit organizations. In short, while Ayers was a despicable person in his youth, the McCain campaign's relentless harping on the close relationship between Obama and Ayers is very misleading. They weren't close at all.


"Nomial head" of the organization? Not sure that is good training for the Presidency of the United States, Ooby. Sounds like a lot less than being a Governor of a entire state of Alaska.

Can someone be the Nomial President of the United States?:-) Or
Nomial Commander in Chief? :-)

That works well with the Joint Chiefs......all Generals/Admirals etc.....
The Nomial Commander in Chief invites you to a meeting to discuss Iraq today. Please show up with maps and plans. The Nomial Command in Chief would like to consider issueing nomial orders....that you can nomially choose do or can nomially choose not to do.
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Oct 13, 2008 1:05 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
Easy,
Lies is an act of desperation.
Who would you rather be our leader?

someone who has to constantly lie to get elected?

Ay least if you look at Obama's campaign, he is not making up lies and making great stretches to try to destroy Mcsame.

So who thinks a diverse knowledge of how the rest of the world works and thinks is a bad thing?

That is like trusting a mechanist with a jaguar when he only knows how to work on fords.
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Oct 13, 2008 1:50 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
ooby_dooby: The McCain campaign and the RNC are still using ads that link Obama and 1960s radical William Ayers. Now Polifact



has examined the ads closely and concluded that the claim that Obama and Ayers ran a radical education foundation together is a "pants-on-fire" lie. While it is true that Obama was the nominal head of the foundation in question, Ayers never had a paid position on the foundation's staff, never was on the board, and never had a vote on anything. His connection to Obama was attending some board meetings that were open to the public, and this 20 years after his radical days, by which time he had reformed enough to get a Ph.D. in education from Columbia University and was able to win Chicago's "Citizen of the Year" award in 1997 for his work for nonprofit organizations. In short, while Ayers was a despicable person in his youth, the McCain campaign's relentless harping on the close relationship between Obama and Ayers is very misleading. They weren't close at all.


Of course he didn't have a paid position, he and the wifey were way to busy fire bombing police cars and Brinks trucks, killing people..dunno
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Oct 13, 2008 2:54 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
ttom500: "Nomial head" of the organization? Not sure that is good training for the Presidency of the United States, Ooby. Sounds like a lot less than being a Governor of a entire state of Alaska.

Can someone be the Nomial President of the United States?:-) Or
Nomial Commander in Chief? :-)

That works well with the Joint Chiefs......all Generals/Admirals etc.....
The Nomial Commander in Chief invites you to a meeting to discuss Iraq today. Please show up with maps and plans. The Nomial Command in Chief would like to consider issueing nomial orders....that you can nomially choose do or can nomially choose not to do.


I posted this in another thread, I guess you missed it so I'll paste it here.

"It's funny how a lot of people give her credit for being the Governor of the biggest state in the union, however Alaska may be big in square miles but the population of the whole state is only 683,478 (07) that is only 0.22% the population of the United States. Tiny Rhode Island has over a million. The population of Manhattan is 1.5 million and that is just 1 of NYC's 5 boroughs. The Mayor of NYC has a job 10X tougher than the governor of Alaska could ever have."

Addendum: From a lot of what I've read about Sarah Palin, she spent an inordinate amount of her official time as Governor at home in Wasilla instead of being on the job in Ancorage.
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Oct 13, 2008 3:02 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
ooby_dooby:
Addendum: From a lot of what I've read about Sarah Palin, she spent an inordinate amount of her official time as Governor at home in Wasilla instead of being on the job in Ancorage.



professor But she can see Russia from her window!





roll eyes laugh
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Oct 13, 2008 3:02 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Olsojente: But she can see Russia from her window!



Yes...an expert in foreign affairs...gotta love her....professor roll eyes uh oh dunno grin
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Oct 13, 2008 3:10 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yes...an expert in foreign affairs...gotta love her....


Yes, when she isn't abusing power she is a right-on kind of governor! scold
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Oct 13, 2008 3:19 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Fallingman: Yes, when she isn't abusing power she is a right-on kind of governor!



Or passing bills to slay innocent wolves.....blues
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Oct 13, 2008 3:22 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Or passing bills to slay innocent wolves.....



With cannons, was it?confused
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Oct 13, 2008 3:23 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Olsojente: With cannons, was it?



I think so....or rocket launchers maybe...grin uh oh blues
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Oct 13, 2008 3:27 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Or passing bills to slay innocent wolves.....


Unless I am sadly mistaken and have completely forgotten those Political Science classes I took, "SHE" (as governor) cannot make the laws. I "think", they must be introduced and proceed through the state legislature first.. But, I am old & senile..dunno
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Oct 13, 2008 3:28 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
HJFinAZ: Unless I am sadly mistaken and have completely forgotten those Political Science classes I took, "SHE" (as governor) cannot make the laws. I "think", they must be introduced and proceed through the state legislature first.. But, I am old & senile..



I'm sure she found a way...tongue
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Oct 13, 2008 3:29 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
HJFinAZ: Unless I am sadly mistaken and have completely forgotten those Political Science classes I took, "SHE" (as governor) cannot make the laws. I "think", they must be introduced and proceed through the state legislature first.. But, I am old & senile..



I'm sure she found a way...tongue
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Oct 13, 2008 3:31 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I'm sure she found a way...
Twice!!!!!!
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Oct 13, 2008 3:32 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I'm sure she found a way...


Twice!!!tongue


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 13, 2008 3:41 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
HJFinAZ: Twice!!!



Yep see how sneaky she is.....tongue
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Oct 13, 2008 3:43 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yep see how sneaky she is.....


Did she really post these??confused

Sarah baby, can we have a pic of you in Daisey Dukes??devil
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Oct 13, 2008 4:04 PM CST Polifact Debunks Obama-Ayers Connection
rasgumby: Easy,
Lies is an act of desperation.
Who would you rather be our leader?

someone who has to constantly lie to get elected?

Ay least if you look at Obama's campaign, he is not making up lies and making great stretches to try to destroy Mcsame.

So who thinks a diverse knowledge of how the rest of the world works and thinks is a bad thing?

That is like trusting a mechanist with a jaguar when he only knows how to work on fords.
And you call THAT a Mechanic?doh
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