Obama's Plan to Socialize America (141)
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well maybe I'm wrong he could've and I just don't remember it...but my suspicion has always been that he knew damn well from the beginning there was no weapons of mass destruction there and that the others were just used as scapegoats...it's a little to coincidental for me to believe that bush was chomping at the bit to get at Hussein and all of a sudden there were weapons there...that weren't really there to give him the excuse to be able to do it....
Kind of like me saying I know EXACTLY what BHO is thinking and what his motives are..
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HJFinAZ: Kind of like me saying I know EXACTLY what BHO is thinking and what his motives are..
Well you tell me then...Who had the most to gain by it????
The bottom or the top...what's more logical and reasonable to believe????
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Ras I don't mind it wandering some. I understand that.
But just to get it back on the thread topic.
Obama ACORN relationship needs to be addressed here some.
Do you think that ACORN is a socialist organization? Think about some of thier tactics.
Pressuring banks. Picketing homes of Bank execs. Registeration of voters under some very loose rules and regs. Promoting bad lending practices.
RAS......that is exactly how a grass roots socialist organizations operates in foriegn countries. They use the established gov't and business practices to benefit the socialist group. Out of power, they have to. They have to use the normal government and business practices to suceed. To get political power.
So Palin has been asking Obama to divest himself from ACORN and criticize it. Obama has given a Rev Wright answer to it so far...."what they do is sometime wrong on a small bases" is his present position, I think.
RAS 200,000 suspect voters in OH is more than doing something wrong on a small basis.
But a socialist group....has no respect for the 1 vote and 1 person rule of law in a country. Power to the people....remember?
But just to get it back on the thread topic.
Obama ACORN relationship needs to be addressed here some.
Do you think that ACORN is a socialist organization? Think about some of thier tactics.
Pressuring banks. Picketing homes of Bank execs. Registeration of voters under some very loose rules and regs. Promoting bad lending practices.
RAS......that is exactly how a grass roots socialist organizations operates in foriegn countries. They use the established gov't and business practices to benefit the socialist group. Out of power, they have to. They have to use the normal government and business practices to suceed. To get political power.
So Palin has been asking Obama to divest himself from ACORN and criticize it. Obama has given a Rev Wright answer to it so far...."what they do is sometime wrong on a small bases" is his present position, I think.
RAS 200,000 suspect voters in OH is more than doing something wrong on a small basis.
But a socialist group....has no respect for the 1 vote and 1 person rule of law in a country. Power to the people....remember?
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Well you tell me then...Who had the most to gain by it????The bottom or the top...what's more logical and reasonable to believe????
You kill me sometimes!!!
Bush and clone wolf McCain and the word logic all in the same thread
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Hugz_n_Kissez: No because I don't care what they say...like I said...it a little too coincidental for me that Bush was chomping at the bit to get into Iraq and all of a sudden weapons of mass destruction popped up to give him just the excuse to do it...now...do you really think that the bottom..engineered this????? UMMMMMMM NOOOOOOOO the orders came from much higher up than that and I say they were all damn well aware of it...and just put out crisis fires when it got to the point that it was obvious there weren't any...so nope..that's my belief and I think it's the most plausible belief....the bottom would have nothing to gain by engineering all this.....the top and Bush had everything to gain by it!!!!!!!!
Nice to see that you are open minded HUGs.
A short 30 word discription is this. Goldfarb was a agent of Iran.....Iran did not want the US invading it post 9/11.....Goldfarb fed the GWB adminstration on Sadam having WMDs.....GWB administration bite it.
But if you not going to be open to alternative thoery that has evidence, Hug....because they have evidence on this.....and it is bi party study. Please release us from your GWB conspriracy thoeries of truth.
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You're wrong Tom because you slant the truth and want only slanted one sided truth to be presented. Obama will never be telling any kind of truth to you unless he confesses what you want to hear.
You throw around words like terrorist, socialism and communism as if they are the same thing and pin them on my candidate. You do this to inspire fear, maybe the same fear you are feeling but it is still fear.
I resent that, you will not get away with that kind of character assignation with this American. Obama has always been more of a centrist, he is a good man and will make a good leader if he is elected.
Socialism is not a political system, it's a way of distributing goods and services. Democracy is liberal. More people, preferably everyone, have some say in how the government works.
Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people,have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative.
Seems to me as if you are also totally ignoring the new world we are in for the last few weeks. The world of marked crashes, insanely high national debt that was increased by the market bailout. Underfunding of the programs and services we have right now and the crumbling destruction of our middle class.
So cry me a river when you say distributing the wealth is wrong but grabbing power and destroying our infrastructure is not mentioned as a reason to remove the Bush tax cuts on the millionaires and big cooperations.
You know the ones that played fast and loose with responsibility to support this country and create jobs while making record profits.
You throw around words like terrorist, socialism and communism as if they are the same thing and pin them on my candidate. You do this to inspire fear, maybe the same fear you are feeling but it is still fear.
I resent that, you will not get away with that kind of character assignation with this American. Obama has always been more of a centrist, he is a good man and will make a good leader if he is elected.
Socialism is not a political system, it's a way of distributing goods and services. Democracy is liberal. More people, preferably everyone, have some say in how the government works.
Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people,have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative.
Seems to me as if you are also totally ignoring the new world we are in for the last few weeks. The world of marked crashes, insanely high national debt that was increased by the market bailout. Underfunding of the programs and services we have right now and the crumbling destruction of our middle class.
So cry me a river when you say distributing the wealth is wrong but grabbing power and destroying our infrastructure is not mentioned as a reason to remove the Bush tax cuts on the millionaires and big cooperations.
You know the ones that played fast and loose with responsibility to support this country and create jobs while making record profits.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Well you tell me then...Who had the most to gain by it????The bottom or the top...what's more logical and reasonable to believe????
The top........ ALWAYS the top..
The "TOP" my dear, is not where us commoners are..
But, if you wanted on top..
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ttom500: Nice to see that you are open minded HUGs.
A short 30 word discription is this. Goldfarb was a agent of Iran.....Iran did not want the US invading it post 9/11.....Goldfarb fed the GWB adminstration on Sadam having WMDs.....GWB administration bite it.
But if you not going to be open to alternative thoery that has evidence, Hug....because they have evidence on this.....and it is bi party study. Please release us from your GWB conspriracy thoeries of truth.
A short 30 word discription is this. Goldfarb was a agent of Iran.....Iran did not want the US invading it post 9/11.....Goldfarb fed the GWB adminstration on Sadam having WMDs.....GWB administration bite it.
But if you not going to be open to alternative thoery that has evidence, Hug....because they have evidence on this.....and it is bi party study. Please release us from your GWB conspriracy thoeries of truth.
He is right hugs!!
To buy all of this.. you have got to remove that BS filter!!!
The Bush admin had this report manufactured after the fact.
It is well know as public record that the CIA made it well known that Iraq had no WMD.. well before this war started.
Think this is maybe why none have ever been found??!!
Maybe ttom is right.... After Bush, and now wanting to be followed in step by McCain.......... we should fear Obama.
NOT
This is too damn funny
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rasgumby: You kill me sometimes!!!
Bush and clone wolf McCain and the word logic all in the same thread
Bush and clone wolf McCain and the word logic all in the same thread
Glad I could make your day...I never thought about the irony of all 3 words being in the same thread...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Glad I could make your day...I never thought about the irony of all 3 words being in the same thread...
Really makes no difference........
Elections are just around the corner.......
Bye McCain!!!
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ttom500: Nice to see that you are open minded HUGs.
A short 30 word discription is this. Goldfarb was a agent of Iran.....Iran did not want the US invading it post 9/11.....Goldfarb fed the GWB adminstration on Sadam having WMDs.....GWB administration bite it.
But if you not going to be open to alternative thoery that has evidence, Hug....because they have evidence on this.....and it is bi party study. Please release us from your GWB conspriracy thoeries of truth.
A short 30 word discription is this. Goldfarb was a agent of Iran.....Iran did not want the US invading it post 9/11.....Goldfarb fed the GWB adminstration on Sadam having WMDs.....GWB administration bite it.
But if you not going to be open to alternative thoery that has evidence, Hug....because they have evidence on this.....and it is bi party study. Please release us from your GWB conspriracy thoeries of truth.
I don't have to look at a whole bunch of filler and BS to apply logic and common sense..now if you're bringing 911 into this then the should have been attacking Saudia Arabia were the actual terrorists were from...NOT Iraq...where none of them came from...another good excuse!!!!!!
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Darkhorseman: Communism as practiced in China and Russia is not socialism. It is Totalitarianism with socialism as it's excuse in the same way that Capitalism is an excuse for Fraudism in the USA ... how do you think the financial markets collapsed? The money that was meant to be used for expension of businesses was siphoned off by fraudsters under the guise of capitalism.
Exactly where is your freedom and democracy NOW? Your freedoms have been destroyed by the Patriot Act and democracy ... Your Repulicans are AGAIN doing their level best to disenfranchise a good deal of your poor from their right to vote. Only the rich will have a right to government handouts and only the rich will be able to vote. Now that DOES sound like Russia and China to me.
Again, how do you reconcile that statement with the fact that in at least two recent elections and now it looks like this election the Republican party are doing their best to cut the amount of poorer voters who have enrolled? Perhaps the elephantine ladies and gentlemen ar secret prayers to the East. Remember that is was them that brought in the Patriot Act which allows people like Tommy Chong at 66 years of age to be jailed for selling a glass bong. It hadn't been used for smoking anything, not even legal tobacco ... but your Republicans spent over a years survellance and a guns out "hutt hutt hutt" raid on his house. How much education and health help could that have bought?
How do socialist views support Middle Eastern terrorists??? These people hate socialists more than you do! They believe in a feudal society where you give obedience to your local lord and master. If your local Iman says go out and bomb a bus they expect you to ask how big an explosion do you want.
Exactly. Democracy has no place in a Feudal System ... What do you call Rummy, Chenney and the oil barrons by the way if not Feudal.
Did your fingers itch when you typed that! Christians are the most intolerant pack of thugs I know. Want to tlk about "Devine Right" ... I know a bunch of native peoples around the World wonder how anybody could be so arrogant. Should we count the small pox infested blankets given to your own native Americans as part of the Christian giving? Perhaps that was payment for the lands stolen.
Exactly where is your freedom and democracy NOW? Your freedoms have been destroyed by the Patriot Act and democracy ... Your Repulicans are AGAIN doing their level best to disenfranchise a good deal of your poor from their right to vote. Only the rich will have a right to government handouts and only the rich will be able to vote. Now that DOES sound like Russia and China to me.
Again, how do you reconcile that statement with the fact that in at least two recent elections and now it looks like this election the Republican party are doing their best to cut the amount of poorer voters who have enrolled? Perhaps the elephantine ladies and gentlemen ar secret prayers to the East. Remember that is was them that brought in the Patriot Act which allows people like Tommy Chong at 66 years of age to be jailed for selling a glass bong. It hadn't been used for smoking anything, not even legal tobacco ... but your Republicans spent over a years survellance and a guns out "hutt hutt hutt" raid on his house. How much education and health help could that have bought?
How do socialist views support Middle Eastern terrorists??? These people hate socialists more than you do! They believe in a feudal society where you give obedience to your local lord and master. If your local Iman says go out and bomb a bus they expect you to ask how big an explosion do you want.
Exactly. Democracy has no place in a Feudal System ... What do you call Rummy, Chenney and the oil barrons by the way if not Feudal.
Did your fingers itch when you typed that! Christians are the most intolerant pack of thugs I know. Want to tlk about "Devine Right" ... I know a bunch of native peoples around the World wonder how anybody could be so arrogant. Should we count the small pox infested blankets given to your own native Americans as part of the Christian giving? Perhaps that was payment for the lands stolen.
In response to: Communism as practiced in China and Russia is not socialism. It is Totalitarianism with socialism as it's excuse
It is the only way Socialism can be practiced in it's true form.Sheer Raw Terror,as you all will soon be experiencing on your own Hide.
You know little about Socialism,and even less about Capitalism.
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rasgumby: He is right hugs!!
To buy all of this.. you have got to remove that BS filter!!!
The Bush admin had this report manufactured after the fact.
It is well know as public record that the CIA made it well known that Iraq had no WMD.. well before this war started.
Think this is maybe why none have ever been found??!!
Maybe ttom is right.... After Bush, and now wanting to be followed in step by McCain.......... we should fear Obama.
NOT
This is too damn funny
To buy all of this.. you have got to remove that BS filter!!!
The Bush admin had this report manufactured after the fact.
It is well know as public record that the CIA made it well known that Iraq had no WMD.. well before this war started.
Think this is maybe why none have ever been found??!!
Maybe ttom is right.... After Bush, and now wanting to be followed in step by McCain.......... we should fear Obama.
NOT
This is too damn funny
Gee I think I just said that...hence why I didn't read the report...my BS filter went off big time and it only takes reason...logic and common sense to see the truth of it all...I don't need any fabricated report to tell me how it all went down..I already know!!!!!!!!
So yes I have a closed mind to the truth...once it's there...there ain't no BS that's gonna change the truth for me..my fliter's too good!!!!!
YES OBAMA IS DANGEROUS LOOK OUT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY END UP WITH PEACE IN SOME OF THESE COUNTRIES!!!!!!!!
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Hugz_n_Kissez:
YES OBAMA IS DANGEROUS LOOK OUT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY END UP WITH PEACE IN SOME OF THESE COUNTRIES!!!!!!!!
YES OBAMA IS DANGEROUS LOOK OUT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY END UP WITH PEACE IN SOME OF THESE COUNTRIES!!!!!!!!
Middle Eastern countries have been fighting since the days of Christ.. Suddenly, "The Saviour" is going to insure peace there!!!
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HJFinAZ: Middle Eastern countries have been fighting since the days of Christ.. Suddenly, "The Saviour" is going to insure peace there!!!
Hey...maybe communication will work better than tanks...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Hey...maybe communication will work better than tanks...
In the days of Christ, they had no tanks..
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Again, reality sucks...
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HJFinAZ: Again, reality sucks...
I'm almost sure they had some kinda weapons.....ya dingy old man ya.....WAR is what I'm talkin about..whatever methods they used from then until now...it's still all the same....
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HJFinAZ: Middle Eastern countries have been fighting since the days of Christ.. Suddenly, "The Saviour" is going to insure peace there!!!
I think that was Bush, right? Going where his Dad was smart enough not to go. Remember "Mission Accomplished" oh so many years ago and the promise that the regions own oil would pay for the war?
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No because I don't care what they say...like I said...it a little too coincidental for me that Bush was chomping at the bit to get into Iraq and all of a sudden weapons of mass destruction popped up to give him just the excuse to do it...now...do you really think that the bottom..engineered this????? UMMMMMMM NOOOOOOOO the orders came from much higher up than that and I say they were all damn well aware of it...and just put out crisis fires when it got to the point that it was obvious there weren't any...so nope..that's my belief and I think it's the most plausible belief....the bottom would have nothing to gain by engineering all this.....the top and Bush had everything to gain by it!!!!!!!!