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Conrad73: How is he gonna take any Guns off the Street,by Taking aeay the Firearms of the Law abiding Citizens'
Another MindF*** by the Chosen One
Another MindF*** by the Chosen One
Taking away handguns from the law abiding citizens....It may not be as easy as he thinks it might be...
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Conrad73: How is he gonna take any Guns off the Street,by Taking aeay the Firearms of the Lawabiding Citizens'
At least this op is doing it proper.
I would love to see the guns gone from all streets, nothing bad in trying, way better than giving up.
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FreeHappy: Q: You said recently, "I have no intention of taking away folks' guns." But you support the D.C. handgun ban, and you've said that it's constitutional. How do you reconcile those two positions?
Obama:
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.
Obama:
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.
The only people that any form of gun control ever affects is the law-abiding citizen. One can never get the illegal handguns off of the streets, nor have any type of gun control and still respect the Second Amendment. It's not possible. Yes, I would love to see the criminals disarmed, for then I would have no need to be armed...but that's not a realistic expectation since by their very nature, criminals have no respect for the law. The Second Amendment is the one that protects all of our others...lose that one, you lose the rest. In areas where there is more gun control, there are more crimes...and in areas where there is less gun control and more armed citizens, there are fewer crimes. Don't believe me? A man named John Lott set out to prove that gun control works...and disproved his own theory to become instead a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment...and put his findings in a book. All of his statistics are there. The book is "More Guns, Less Crime"...that's what his statistics proved.
The simple reason? Because more than they fear police or dogs, criminals, by their own admission fear the armed citizen.
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Laws only affect the law abiding citizens. Criminals will always have guns, ever heard of the black market? Ask any criminal and he will tell you he fears an armed citizen over the police. I have never been in trouble with the law. Why should I have to go through more trouble to own a gun than a criminal? You want less crime? You want less violence? How about this you commit a felony crime using a firearm you get a mandatory 25 years. No parole, no plea bargaining, and no early release. If you do it a second time you get life. I'm tired of all these criminals getting out before they should have. In the old days it didn't pay to be a criminal. It was called a hang mans noose. These days it sure does pay.
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Conrad73: by Bob Owens
Bob Owens is the author of the daily political blog, Confederate Yankee, btw.
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The DC law made all handguns illegal. The US Supreme court ruled correctly that it was unconstitutional for such a ban.
DC needs to put more effort in fighting criminal actions where handguns are used. Or they should adopt a concealed weapons carry law for deterrence if their law enforcement can't handle the job.
By the way, Obama said "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets." There is no such thing as an illegal handgun. There is the use of a handgun during an illegal act where law enforcement and the court system could have harsher sentences for such crimes.
DC needs to put more effort in fighting criminal actions where handguns are used. Or they should adopt a concealed weapons carry law for deterrence if their law enforcement can't handle the job.
By the way, Obama said "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets." There is no such thing as an illegal handgun. There is the use of a handgun during an illegal act where law enforcement and the court system could have harsher sentences for such crimes.
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mike69spain: Bob Owens is the author of the daily political blog, Confederate Yankee, btw.
I know.
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Conrad73: I know.
Yeah, you do, I am not sure about them others
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mbcasey: The DC law made all handguns illegal. The US Supreme court ruled correctly that it was unconstitutional for such a ban.
DC needs to put more effort in fighting criminal actions where handguns are used. Or they should adopt a concealed weapons carry law for deterrence if their law enforcement can't handle the job.
By the way, Obama said "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets." There is no such thing as an illegal handgun. There is the use of a handgun during an illegal act where law enforcement and the court system could have harsher sentences for such crimes.
DC needs to put more effort in fighting criminal actions where handguns are used. Or they should adopt a concealed weapons carry law for deterrence if their law enforcement can't handle the job.
By the way, Obama said "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets." There is no such thing as an illegal handgun. There is the use of a handgun during an illegal act where law enforcement and the court system could have harsher sentences for such crimes.
Amen brother!
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druidess6308: The only people that any form of gun control ever affects is the law-abiding citizen. One can never get the illegal handguns off of the streets, nor have any type of gun control and still respect the Second Amendment. It's not possible. Yes, I would love to see the criminals disarmed, for then I would have no need to be armed...but that's not a realistic expectation since by their very nature, criminals have no respect for the law. The Second Amendment is the one that protects all of our others...lose that one, you lose the rest. In areas where there is more gun control, there are more crimes...and in areas where there is less gun control and more armed citizens, there are fewer crimes. Don't believe me? A man named John Lott set out to prove that gun control works...and disproved his own theory to become instead a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment...and put his findings in a book. All of his statistics are there. The book is "More Guns, Less Crime"...that's what his statistics proved.
The simple reason? Because more than they fear police or dogs, criminals, by their own admission fear the armed citizen.
The simple reason? Because more than they fear police or dogs, criminals, by their own admission fear the armed citizen.
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And as we type:
COPS in Indianapolis. I love it.
COPS in Indianapolis. I love it.
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mbcasey: The DC law made all handguns illegal. The US Supreme court ruled correctly that it was unconstitutional for such a ban.
DC needs to put more effort in fighting criminal actions where handguns are used. Or they should adopt a concealed weapons carry law for deterrence if their law enforcement can't handle the job.
By the way, Obama said "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets." There is no such thing as an illegal handgun. There is the use of a handgun during an illegal act where law enforcement and the court system could have harsher sentences for such crimes.
DC needs to put more effort in fighting criminal actions where handguns are used. Or they should adopt a concealed weapons carry law for deterrence if their law enforcement can't handle the job.
By the way, Obama said "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets." There is no such thing as an illegal handgun. There is the use of a handgun during an illegal act where law enforcement and the court system could have harsher sentences for such crimes.
I agree totally...especially with the part about there being no such thing as an illegal handgun.Vermont, by the way, is the only state that has it right about Concealed Carry. You don't need a permit there because they consider that the Second Amendment is your permit.
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LACali: Excellent post. Great book.
Thank you. One of the many on this subject somewhere in my boxes in storage. Can't wait to find them again.
I used to be the local coordinator in my county for the Second Amendment Sisters, and have taught women how to shoot and how to carry concealed (never in your purse, btw, as it can be removed and is very hard to shoot through or draw from).
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perhaps outlawing the sale of bullets would provide a quicker solution
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dillinger: perhaps outlawing the sale of bullets would provide a quicker solution
Again, it will affect the law-abiding citizen more than the criminal, since the law abiders don't shop the black market.
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druidess6308: I agree totally...especially with the part about there being no such thing as an illegal handgun.
Vermont, by the way, is the only state that has it right about Concealed Carry. You don't need a permit there because they consider that the Second Amendment is your permit.
Vermont, by the way, is the only state that has it right about Concealed Carry. You don't need a permit there because they consider that the Second Amendment is your permit.
I would have never guessed Vermont would recognize the 2nd amendment that way. In fact, if I had 49 guesses which is the only state that recognizes the 2nd amendment in it's pure form, I would have guessed wrong on every choice...
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Make bullets $500 dollars each. Then you have to really be sure your going to get more money in the robbery than you spend in bullets.
Divorces in some ways are cheaper than a bullet to shoot your spouse with.
It would cost too much to practice shooting for a person to be able to hit a darn thing!
You would not dare have bullets with you as a gangster because your bro will rob you for the bullets.......with a knife!
Divorces in some ways are cheaper than a bullet to shoot your spouse with.
It would cost too much to practice shooting for a person to be able to hit a darn thing!
You would not dare have bullets with you as a gangster because your bro will rob you for the bullets.......with a knife!
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well, I don't know. it seems to me that when you have children murdering each other in schools perhaps it's time to put away the toys no?
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Obama:
A: Because I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country. I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions.