Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA? ( Archived) (765)

Nov 9, 2008 9:57 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
riyablossom: With my limited knowledge I am DEFINITE theres more in the world than the US to be scared of right now.

The US is FAR from scary. Past is not what i am bothered about , its the present. Just today I happened to read that British Intelligence have news of a massive Al Qaeida plot to cause large scale casualties in Britain.



scold That would never happen....scold
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Nov 9, 2008 9:59 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Indyfella: That would never happen....


thumbs up I am VERY POSITIVE it will not.

But thats what is the real thing to be scared of i think.
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Nov 9, 2008 10:00 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
riyablossom: I am VERY POSITIVE it will not.

But thats what is the real thing to be scared of i think.



It's hard to believe they would do that. They seem peaceful.
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Nov 9, 2008 10:01 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
riyablossom: With my limited knowledge I am DEFINITE theres more in the world than the US to be scared of right now.

The US is FAR from scary. Past is not what i am bothered about , its the present. Just today I happened to read that British Intelligence have news of a massive Al Qaeida plot to cause large scale casualties in Britain.


who owns the media?

who wants to keep "terror" alive and well?


"massive" Al Qaeida laugh talk about oxymoron.


whats that old addage about finger pointing, apply it to news outlets and you get a much clearer picture of who the real fea mongers are..
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Nov 9, 2008 10:01 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
lostinohio
lostinohiolostinohioCuyahoga Falls, Ohio USA7 Threads 1 Polls 45 Posts
patrickthomas: Your million figure is way off, 150,000 was the official figure projected, and why do you have to be so insulting in making your post?




hase 1 was Operation Olympic; the invasion of Kyushu. This was to prepare the following invasion of Hokkido north of Tokyo in Operation Cornet.
It would start with the 40th Inf div and the 158th RCT invading small islands south of Kyushu so as to set up early warning radar stations for the invasion fleet.The 3rd and 5th Fleets would support the invasion with over 66 carriers with 2649 naval and marine aircraft.
On Kyushu the Eastern assault force would consist of the 25, 33, and 41st Inf div.The Southern assault force would have the 1st Cav, the 43rd, and the Americal Inf div.The Western Assault force would land the 2, 3, and 5th Marine div. this was to all start Nov 1. On Nov 8 the reserve force would land the 81st, 98th Inf, and the 11th Airborne div. This was to prepare the island as one big air and logistical base for Cornet.

Facing the 14 American Div would be 14 Japanese div, 7 independent mixed brigades, tank bigades, and SNLF forces. this would amount to about 790000 defenders vs the invading 550000 Americans.
On the Eastern shore would be the 156th, 212th and the 154th Inf Div. Reserves were the 25th and 77th Inf div. The south would have the 86th Inf div and 1 mixed inf brigade(strength as a RCT).
The Marines would have the toughest time with the 146th, 206th, and the 303rd inf div manning the beaches with the 6th Armored brigade, 125th mixed inf brigade, and 4th Artillery Division command. The 25th and 77th were also in stiking distance if the Eastern shore held.

Admiral William Leahy estimated that there would be over 250000 Casualties on Kyushu alone. MacArthur's chief of intelligence estimated that by the fall of 1946 casualties for the entire operation would be 1 million, MacArthurs staff even considered THAT a conservative estimate. Forcasts indicated that there would be 1000 Japanese and American casualties every hour .




My response was not nearly as insulting as the original author of this thread. When I speak of casualties my point was/is that there would have been tremendous casualties on both sides. It would have been very hard to justify the deaths of Americans to their families during the invasion and far more Japanese would have died and suffered as a result of the invasion than suffered from the bombs. It was the choice of the lesser of two evils. It was an unavoidable action and an unavoidable war.
Remember the American actions after the war. Millions of American dollars were invested in rebuilding Japan and helped make it the country what it is today. We're not saints. I am ashamed of what President Bush has done to this country in regards to Iraq in particular but there is only so much that an average citizen can do. I did my part to help get Obama elected. All I can do now is to hope for the best and live my life correctly and with honor. Peace to you my Irish friend.
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Nov 9, 2008 10:02 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
BnaturAl: who owns the media?

who wants to keep "terror" alive and well?"massive" Al Qaeida talk about oxymoron.whats that old addage about finger pointing, apply it to news outlets and you get a much clearer picture of who the real fea mongers are..


Al Qaeida is just a misunderstood group of people. I'm sure they mean no harm to anyone.
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Nov 9, 2008 10:02 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
wave Hi Al ... Indy ..

No clue .. thats what i read.
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Nov 9, 2008 10:06 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
riyablossom: Hi Al ... Indy ..

No clue .. thats what i read.


wave
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Nov 9, 2008 10:29 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
The_Kansan: And I read that the moon is made of green cheese... I didn't believe that either, but you're welcome to. (It makes just as much sense!)


not much in this media orchestrated world makes sense... cheers
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Nov 9, 2008 10:30 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Indyfella: Al Qaeida is just a misunderstood group of people. I'm sure they mean no harm to anyone.


They are about 12 strong now ... since they lost US funding laugh
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Nov 9, 2008 10:33 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
patrickthomas
patrickthomaspatrickthomasMullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 4 Polls 1,911 Posts
lostinohio: We're not saints. I am ashamed of what President Bush has done to this country in regards to Iraq in particular but there is only so much that an average citizen can do. I did my part to help get Obama elected. All I can do now is to hope for the best and live my life correctly and with honor. Peace to you my Irish friend.


There is no point to us arguing about the past, It is the future that counts and hopefully with Obama we will see a change from the Bush policies we have seen over the last seven years. The recent incursions into Syria and Pakistan are worrying. hopefully that will not get out of control.cheers
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Nov 9, 2008 10:35 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Apostophe: AMEN - HUGZ YOU'RE SOME WOMAN!



Thank you...I'm just me...that's the only way I know how to be....wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet
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Nov 9, 2008 10:40 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: .

A theft of culture is one of the most horrendous ones I can think of. It was done to destroy resistance and make the tribes too weak to resist the theft of their lands and rights. It worked too sadly enough. The government sent back some broken children to the tribes, broken by the government.!!


The long imposing arm of right wing christian bulletheads very mad


nothing much has changed since Sumar, Egypt, Persia, Rome, has it? .. you will beleive in my god, you will beleive my ways or die ... and the mind numbing repetitive christ chanting marches on... very mad

NO offense Hugz, but the indigenous difficulties are but a mere microcasm of the world at large. People being drummed into their places by christians trying to indulge and complete their prophecies. mumbling very mad

This is what I mean, by no single government is actually leading this, this is all being headed by people who keep themsleves out of harm's way, elite people who have insulated themselves from accountability by creating a people againt people mentality, while we argue amongst ourselves, they sit back pridiously giggling about their successes because no one is looking at THEM.. doh
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Nov 9, 2008 10:46 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Apostophe
ApostopheApostopheBoksburg, Gauteng South Africa64 Threads 1,937 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Thank you...I'm just me...that's the only way I know how to be....


I'ts people like you that make the planet spin - pity though that the idiots don't fly off!handshake cheers
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Nov 9, 2008 10:46 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
BnaturAl: The long imposing arm of right wing christian bulletheads nothing much has changed since Sumar, Egypt, Persia, Rome, has it? .. you will beleive in my god, you will beleive my ways or die ... and the mind numbing repetitive christ chanting marches on...

NO offense Hugz, but the indigenous difficulties are but a mere microcasm of the world at large. People being drummed into their places by christians trying to indulge and complete their prophecies.

This is what I mean, by no single government is actually leading this, this is all being headed by people who keep themsleves out of harm's way, elite people who have insulated themselves from accountability by creating a people againt people mentality, while we argue amongst ourselves, they sit back pridiously giggling about their successes because no one is looking at THEM..




Exactly...and yes that was the goal complete assimilation and Christianisation........and no...nobody looks at them......sometimes I think people just don't want to know the truth...it's far to ugly and much easier not to look at!!!!!!!!


wave hug teddybear hug bouquet thumbs up
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Nov 9, 2008 10:49 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Apostophe: I'ts people like you that make the planet spin - pity though that the idiots don't fly off!


Thank you...I am a doer...I can't just sit back and watch certain things...and not do something about it...and yes...idiots flying off would be great....wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet
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Nov 9, 2008 10:55 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
The_Kansan: Yeah, I know. And the 'f' is next to the 'd' on mine which probably explains why someone got ticked a while back when I told him to hunt duck.


That's just.......'quackers'! rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 9, 2008 11:02 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Skybow: Look and speak up. It is by silence and misinformation that the lies are believed and become the false truth.


doing thumbs up



and taking the incoming flac laugh uh oh




peace wave
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Nov 9, 2008 11:03 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Thank you...I am a doer...I can't just sit back and watch certain things...and not do something about it...and yes...idiots flying off would be great....


Just think if those horrible people hadn't stolen your land you'd not have had to learn that alien tongue 'English' and get prescription glasses so you could see straight, and be forced to use the horrible internet..... and you'd be happy in another place, and another time and maybe an alternative universe and such nice stuff........... but hoping other people fly off the planet isn't going to make them happy, you know! [They might collide with satellites and get nasty headaches and then it would be all your fault for wishing such horrible things to happen to them!]

Shucks - you have suffered too much! moping
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Nov 9, 2008 11:04 AM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Indyfella: Al Qaeida is just a misunderstood group of people. I'm sure they mean no harm to anyone.


The voice of reason, at last! grin
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