energy cannot be created or destryed, it always was, always will be. E=mc2 ... matter and enegry have always been. you can only void checks.
Did a God or Gods create the universe out of nothing?
Now, where did God come from?
If God is a designer, then who designed God?
They say an airplane or anything else had a designer. And that was man. Then they say that nature and humans had to have a designer, because something can't come from nothing, or evolve without a design.
Then we have to ask the question, who designed God?
Are we the dreams and creation of a God or Gods?
Or are the Gods and God the dreams and creation of human beings and their illusory minds?
Thoughts?
energy makes everything, simple, concise predictable chaotic design. Some call evolution. Its just action reaction. now go to sleep.
energy cannot be created or destroyed, it always was, always will be. E=mc2 ... matter and enegry have always been. you can only void checks.
In response to: Did a God or Gods create the universe out of nothing?
Now, where did God come from?
If God is a designer, then who designed God?
They say an airplane or anything else had a designer. And that was man. Then they say that nature and humans had to have a designer, because something can't come from nothing, or evolve without a design.
Then we have to ask the question, who designed God?
Are we the dreams and creation of a God or Gods?
Or are the Gods and God the dreams and creation of human beings and their illusory minds?
Thoughts?
Energy makes everything, simple, concise predictable chaotic design. Some call life an evolution. Its just action reaction. Now go to sleep and recharge your atoms.
Here we go again!! In the last 2 weeks, there has been this battleground of God vs. no God in Miracles of the Koran thread. No one will be able to change the other person's beliefs anyway. Why is everyone fighting over this issue again?
Everyone, please google in "God Gene." In 2004, Time Magazine did an article stating that belief in God may actually be "hardwired" into most people's brains, but not everyone's. I found there are various articles on this subject and can apply to a variety of religions and may hold true for non-believers as well.
Perhaps after reading these articles, the fighting will cease and everyone will come out a winner!! JMO!
Venusuranus: We can toy with the idea of a god or gods and remain completly sane.But the moment we BELIEVE we are no longer sane!There is zero proof for the existance of god and to believe in something that has no proof needs a leap of faith.The leap is over real knowledge that you can,t tackle so you leap over it.I like to live in the real world and one day I BELIEVE I will find a woman who wants to do the same!
Good luck in your search. I accept people for who they are and believe that all have the right to their own beliefs, or non-beliefs. Peace.
Trish! I found one for you! He's even on your side of the pond!
LILLYLADY: Here we go again!! In the last 2 weeks, there has been this battleground of God vs. no God in Miracles of the Koran thread. No one will be able to change the other person's beliefs anyway. Why is everyone fighting over this issue again?
Everyone, please google in "God Gene." In 2004, Time Magazine did an article stating that belief in God may actually be "hardwired" into most people's brains, but not everyone's. I found there are various articles on this subject and can apply to a variety of religions and may hold true for non-believers as well.
Perhaps after reading these articles, the fighting will cease and everyone will come out a winner!! JMO!
Everyone, please google in "God Gene." In 2004, Time Magazine did an article stating that belief in God may actually be "hardwired" into most people's brains, but not everyone's. I found there are various articles on this subject and can apply to a variety of religions and may hold true for non-believers as well.
Perhaps after reading these articles, the fighting will cease and everyone will come out a winner!! JMO!
Its an hypothesis not based on substantive facts and there's plenty of people publishing theories (unproven) simply as a matter of personal income. Time Mag needs stuff to print and won't validate before they do, so as long as it's well written, plays on the thought process of humans or evokes some emotional response they will print it.
Venusuranus: We can toy with the idea of a god or gods and remain completly sane.But the moment we BELIEVE we are no longer sane!There is zero proof for the existance of god and to believe in something that has no proof needs a leap of faith.The leap is over real knowledge that you can,t tackle so you leap over it.I like to live in the real world and one day I BELIEVE I will find a woman who wants to do the same!
I think it's more insane to feel the need to bash those that do not believe as you do. This reflects insecurity on your part and a sick sort of need to make others feel as miserable or insecure as you. Pretty sad really.
Please believe as you wish and I will do the same. The only difference is, I wont be degrading you personally for your beliefs until such time as you insult me for mine.
BnaturAl: Its an hypothesis not based on substantive facts and there's plenty of people publishing theories (unproven) simply as a matter of personal income. Time Mag needs stuff to print and won't validate before they do, so as long as it's well written, plays on the thought process of humans or evokes some emotional response they will print it.
Most metaphysical crap coming from Time magazine is a joke.
Sparky55: I think it's more insane to feel the need to bash those that do not believe as you do. This reflects insecurity on your part and a sick sort of need to make others feel as miserable or insecure as you. Pretty sad really.
Please believe as you wish and I will do the same. The only difference is, I wont be degrading you personally for your beliefs until such time as you insult me for mine.
Sparky55: I think it's more insane to feel the need to bash those that do not believe as you do. This reflects insecurity on your part and a sick sort of need to make others feel as miserable or insecure as you. Pretty sad really.
Please believe as you wish and I will do the same. The only difference is, I wont be degrading you personally for your beliefs until such time as you insult me for mine.
Have a wonderful day
but you told him he was more insane in the same post
part of the definition of sane is "having or showing reason, sound judgment, or good sense: sane advice. "
... so I'm not sure sanity isn't in question here in more cases than appear obvious.
Normal = 1. Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical: normal room temperature; one's normal weight; normal diplomatic relations.
Sanity = the state of having a normal healthy mind
And give that in accordance to recent statistics only 2.75% of the entire population of the world do not believe in God... what do you think?
IMHO I would say Billions upon Billions of people believe in something... they can't all be insane...
Aries01: Normal = 1. Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical: normal room temperature; one's normal weight; normal diplomatic relations.
Sanity = the state of having a normal healthy mind
And give that in accordance to recent statistics only 2.75% of the entire population of the world do not believe in God... what do you think?
IMHO I would say Billions upon Billions of people believe in something... they can't all be insane...
If 6 thousand years of subjugative religion and all their wars, destruction and inquistions and crap they are still doing to this day is your offering of proof of sanity, then please call me insane.
I think you've just proven how insane religion and unproven belief really is.
BnaturAl: but you told him he was more insane in the same post
part of the definition of sane is "having or showing reason, sound judgment, or good sense: sane advice. "
... so I'm not sure sanity isn't in question here in more cases than appear obvious.
I didn't say he was insane, I said "I think it's more insane to feel the need to bash those that do not believe as you do...." Now if you see that as me calling him insane then you must have come to the conclusion that the purpose of his original post was to do nothing more than demean those who have a diffrent belief system as he does. I believe this is the case.
You cite some of the definitions of sanity as being "having or showing a reason, sound judgement or good sense" Tell me how that first most demonstrated any of those qualities. The simple truth is you can't.
I don't inject my belief systems on others or degrade them because of theirs but I will never stand by and allow others to insult me for mine. If this makes me somewhat insane then so be it...
Sparky55: I didn't say he was insane, I said "I think it's more insane to feel the need to bash those that do not believe as you do...." Now if you see that as me calling him insane then you must have come to the conclusion that the purpose of his original post was to do nothing more than demean those who have a diffrent belief system as he does. I believe this is the case.
You cite some of the definitions of sanity as being "having or showing a reason, sound judgement or good sense" Tell me how that first most demonstrated any of those qualities. The simple truth is you can't.
I don't inject my belief systems on others or degrade them because of theirs but I will never stand by and allow others to insult me for mine. If this makes me somewhat insane then so be it...
You did during the presidential campaign!!!!!!!!!! You sure did Sparky. Shall I'll bump your old posts?
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Aries01: Normal = 1. Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical: normal room temperature; one's normal weight; normal diplomatic relations.
Sanity = the state of having a normal healthy mind
And give that in accordance to recent statistics only 2.75% of the entire population of the world do not believe in God... what do you think?
IMHO I would say Billions upon Billions of people believe in something... they can't all be insane...
Aries01: Normal = 1. Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical: normal room temperature; one's normal weight; normal diplomatic relations.
Sanity = the state of having a normal healthy mind
And give that in accordance to recent statistics only 2.75% of the entire population of the world do not believe in God... what do you think?
IMHO I would say Billions upon Billions of people believe in something... they can't all be insane...
Where do you come up with this figure? I'd like to read the report.
And WHICH God do they believe in.? There are over 3000 of them.
Religions by population:
Christianity: 2.1 billion--god
Islam: 1.5 billion--allah (god)
Secular/Nonreligious/Atheist: 1.1 billion(no god)
Hinduism: 900 million(not god)
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million(not god)
Buddhism: 376 million(not god--actually not a religion, but you catch the drift)
primal-indigenous: 300 million (not god)
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million(not god)
Sikhism: 23 million(not god)
Juche: 19 million(not god)
Spiritism: 15 million(not god)
Judaism: 14 million(ok, god)
Baha'i: 7 million(not god)
Jainism: 4.2 million(not god)
Shinto: 4 million(not god)
Cao Dai: 4 million(not god)
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million(not god)
Tenrikyo: 2 million(not god)
Neo-Paganism: 1 million(not god)
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand(Not god)
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand(not god)
Scientology: 500 thousand(not god---sort of)
This list does not include: Mandeans, PL Kyodan, Ch'ondogyo, Vodoun, New Age, Seicho-No-Ie, Falun Dafa/Falun Gong, Taoism, Roma-- none of which believe in a biblical god.
I assume your statistic comes from a christian site....
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