Love V Hate ( Archived) (39)

Dec 17, 2008 4:51 AM CST Love V Hate
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
I have noticed on many threads that some seem to think that because there has been a clash of opinions or thoughts, it shows a lack of love. And may even be classed as hatred

This really (in all seriousness) bothers me,

Are some saying that in order to show or feel love that they are no longer to form an opinion and voice that opinion.

Do some think that because there is a clash of thoughts then that MUST lead to some form of hatred, violence even.

I would say that personally, I am one of the least violent persons within the CS walls, I can put hand on heart and say, I have never hated anyone in my entire life. I have never hit anyone either, thats not to say I weak or a coward, I just use words to place my side of a discussion, always have always will.

I genuinely believe that I have a huge capacity to love, and I am really puzzled that some would suggest that just because those that enter a debate on a forum show they are incapable of love.

Or have I just become paranoid wow
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Dec 17, 2008 4:52 AM CST Love V Hate
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rizlared: I have noticed on many threads that some seem to think that because there has been a clash of opinions or thoughts, it shows a lack of love. And may even be classed as hatred

This really (in all seriousness) bothers me,

Are some saying that in order to show or feel love that they are no longer to form an opinion and voice that opinion.

Do some think that because there is a clash of thoughts then that MUST lead to some form of hatred, violence even.

I would say that personally, I am one of the least violent persons within the CS walls, I can put hand on heart and say, I have never hated anyone in my entire life. I have never hit anyone either, thats not to say I weak or a coward, I just use words to place my side of a discussion, always have always will.

I genuinely believe that I have a huge capacity to love, and I am really puzzled that some would suggest that just because those that enter a debate on a forum show they are incapable of love.

Or have I just become paranoid



Even the danish? grin
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Dec 17, 2008 5:26 AM CST Love V Hate
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Indyfella: Even the danish?

Okay, maybe I missed thatlaugh laugh
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Dec 17, 2008 5:36 AM CST Love V Hate
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
rizlared: I have noticed on many threads that some seem to think that because there has been a clash of opinions or thoughts, it shows a lack of love. And may even be classed as hatred

This really (in all seriousness) bothers me,

Are some saying that in order to show or feel love that they are no longer to form an opinion and voice that opinion.

Do some think that because there is a clash of thoughts then that MUST lead to some form of hatred, violence even.

I would say that personally, I am one of the least violent persons within the CS walls, I can put hand on heart and say, I have never hated anyone in my entire life. I have never hit anyone either, thats not to say I weak or a coward, I just use words to place my side of a discussion, always have always will.

I genuinely believe that I have a huge capacity to love, and I am really puzzled that some would suggest that just because those that enter a debate on a forum show they are incapable of love.

Or have I just become paranoid


I love having a good debate and am usually quite attracted to a man who can have a good debate with me... when problems arise is when someone no longer gives you a serious reply and resorts to trivializing or putting you down because you have a different opinion. Even then it´s not enough to breed hatred...just contempt. grin
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Dec 17, 2008 5:42 AM CST Love V Hate
I tend to avoid flame threads or even threads that end up in flaming. But there have been a time or two when I wanted to reply and tell the flamer(s) to act their age and not their font size.

...but I know better, it just adds more fuel to the flame, so I move on.
Good thread, btw.
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Dec 17, 2008 5:54 AM CST Love V Hate
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
jbibiza: I love having a good debate and am usually quite attracted to a man who can have a good debate with me... when problems arise is when someone no longer gives you a serious reply and resorts to trivializing or putting you down because you have a different opinion. Even then it´s not enough to breed hatred...just contempt.


Yes I so agree J, I would though admit that I can become abrasive when posts contain blatant Lies or Misquotes, because I want to debate with someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
And I am open minded enough to sway and change my mind if the opposing argument is strong enough and presented in a logical and knowledgeable fashion.
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Dec 17, 2008 6:17 AM CST Love V Hate
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
YouMeUs: I tend to avoid flame threads or even threads that end up in flaming. But there have been a time or two when I wanted to reply and tell the flamer(s) to act their age and not their font size.

...but I know better, it just adds more fuel to the flame, so I move on.
Good thread, btw.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing I love that...act your age not your font size...cracked me up!

I tend to avoid those threads, too...or my own once they turn that way. I'll usually make an attempt or two at peace if I do go in. I should save my fingers, it's almost always ignored. Those who engage in them love the battles. So, let them battle. Those of us who don't like it should just avoid it when it starts.

Yes, I love a good discussion, and even a good debate. However, I hate arguing, putting others down, and ignorance.


cheers
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Dec 17, 2008 6:26 AM CST Love V Hate
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
druidess6308: I love that...act your age not your font size...cracked me up!

I tend to avoid those threads, too...or my own once they turn that way. I'll usually make an attempt or two at peace if I do go in. I should save my fingers, it's almost always ignored. Those who engage in them love the battles. So, let them battle. Those of us who don't like it should just avoid it when it starts.

Yes, I love a good discussion, and even a good debate. However, I hate arguing, putting others down, and ignorance.


Again you make some good points Dru

But at the same time, a person should be allowed to defend themselves against an unsubstantiated statement, without being accused of being lacking in love.
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Dec 17, 2008 6:36 AM CST Love V Hate
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
rizlared: I have noticed on many threads that some seem to think that because there has been a clash of opinions or thoughts, it shows a lack of love. And may even be classed as hatred

This really (in all seriousness) bothers me,

Are some saying that in order to show or feel love that they are no longer to form an opinion and voice that opinion.

Do some think that because there is a clash of thoughts then that MUST lead to some form of hatred, violence even.

I would say that personally, I am one of the least violent persons within the CS walls, I can put hand on heart and say, I have never hated anyone in my entire life. I have never hit anyone either, thats not to say I weak or a coward, I just use words to place my side of a discussion, always have always will.

I genuinely believe that I have a huge capacity to love, and I am really puzzled that some would suggest that just because those that enter a debate on a forum show they are incapable of love.

Or have I just become paranoid



Hi Rizla

I personally think it's about one's openmindedness and competitiveness.

Some people enter a debate with a sigular vision of getting their point accross and not allowing

their position to be swayed in any way whether it thru intelligence or pure stubborness.

The last relationship I was in she was one of the most competitive people I have ever met and was

extremely successful in everything but love. We never debated as it always turned into an

argument and if my point was comin accross as being more valid she would become all defensive,

and lash out verbally.

I see this a lot on some of the threads and wheter that is hatred or someone that is incapable of

love. I don't think so.

I think we are all capable of both.



cheers
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Dec 17, 2008 6:43 AM CST Love V Hate
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
vinny1967: Hi Rizla

I personally think it's about one's openmindedness and competitiveness.

Some people enter a debate with a sigular vision of getting their point accross and not allowing

their position to be swayed in any way whether it thru intelligence or pure stubborness.

The last relationship I was in she was one of the most competitive people I have ever met and was

extremely successful in everything but love. We never debated as it always turned into an

argument and if my point was comin accross as being more valid she would become all defensive,

and lash out verbally.

I see this a lot on some of the threads and wheter that is hatred or someone that is incapable of

love. I don't think so.

I think we are all capable of both.


Ah now this is interesting

I am by nature very competitive, but I also hold true to being open minded

Maybe your premise that by being both competitive and having a closed mind is the root to these anti love comments.

I need to think about this and will return

Thank you Vinneyhandshake
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Dec 17, 2008 7:00 AM CST Love V Hate
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
rizlared: Ah now this is interesting

I am by nature very competitive, but I also hold true to being open minded

Maybe your premise that by being both competitive and having a closed mind is the root to these anti love comments.

I need to think about this and will return

Thank you Vinney



I just think competitiveness sometimes overrules the head is all.

handshake

cheers
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Dec 17, 2008 7:03 AM CST Love V Hate
druidess6308: I love that...act your age not your font size...cracked me up!

I tend to avoid those threads, too...or my own once they turn that way. I'll usually make an attempt or two at peace if I do go in. I should save my fingers, it's almost always ignored. Those who engage in them love the battles. So, let them battle. Those of us who don't like it should just avoid it when it starts.

Yes, I love a good discussion, and even a good debate. However, I hate arguing, putting others down, and ignorance.


Exactly, and I feel the same way, although I may be more lenient toward ignorance. I tend to think of ignorance as unlearned, while on the other hand, we have stupidity, which I tend to think of as unwilling to learn. Deliberate comical stupidity, however, can be a riot!

rizlared: Again you make some good points Dru

But at the same time, a person should be allowed to defend themselves against an unsubstantiated statement, without being accused of being lacking in love.

I agree with this as well. And I think that is where the eggshell syndrome plays a major part in a discussion whenever there is a failure to communicate when misunderstanding occurs. Some try to be very careful in what they say in order to avoid a potential flame up, but oftentimes fail. Good thread, riz.
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Dec 17, 2008 7:29 AM CST Love V Hate
omurchu22
omurchu22omurchu22Dundalk, Louth Ireland12 Threads 720 Posts
Well so far ive tracked down 3 people on CS who argued with me and burned their houses down devil .....The last one managed to run away but thankfully im a dab shot so he wont give either myself or anyone else any cheek next time......

Bloody hate people that say a Windsor knot isnt as good as a over and under knot very mad


Hold on i see someone hangs trousers upside down on a washing line instead of the way you wear them or is it if you wear them on the top hang them from the bottom and if you wear them on the bottom hang them from the top....Look who cares ? i dont like their spelling ....frustrated frustrated Right lets see where they live and pencil them in for next week grin


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Dec 17, 2008 7:35 AM CST Love V Hate
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
You see it more now than ever! Some people just can't "agree to disagree" and move on. They feel they must stand their ground til they're the last one standing! And it doesn't matter to them what it takes to get to that point. I stay away from the flaming threads as well. I have commented ONE time on one, then never returned to it again because it upset me so much. Life is too precious to be spending it arguing with others. I have had my fill of bickering people in real life, WHY in the world I would want to voluntarily be in on it online?! Maybe I'm just getting too mellow with age. Which is perfectly fine with me! I would hope to spend the rest of my life enjoying quality time with others in a peaceful environment OR just be alone the rest of my life. That's how much I despise bickering.

JMO,
Merky
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Dec 17, 2008 7:52 AM CST Love V Hate
Joktan
JoktanJoktanMenomonee Falls, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 188 Posts
Crapp! I cant argue over any of this!..great thread!
ps....I LOVE YOU GUYS...blushing dancing handshake
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Dec 17, 2008 7:52 AM CST Love V Hate
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
hopefloats: You see it more now than ever! Some people just can't "agree to disagree" and move on. They feel they must stand their ground til they're the last one standing! And it doesn't matter to them what it takes to get to that point. I stay away from the flaming threads as well. I have commented ONE time on one, then never returned to it again because it upset me so much. Life is too precious to be spending it arguing with others. I have had my fill of bickering people in real life, WHY in the world I would want to voluntarily be in on it online?! Maybe I'm just getting too mellow with age. Which is perfectly fine with me! I would hope to spend the rest of my life enjoying quality time with others in a peaceful environment OR just be alone the rest of my life. That's how much I despise bickering.

JMO,
Merky


Hi Merky, God could you be more wrong boxing Wanna fight ?

I'll get the choc sauce and you get the whipped cream grin


Completely agree with your posting. I find it hard to argue with loved ones / family let alone

with someone on the Internet.

thumbs up

Have a Bouquet

bouquet
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Dec 17, 2008 7:54 AM CST Love V Hate
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
vinny1967: Hi Merky, God could you be more wrong Wanna fight ?

I'll get the choc sauce and you get the whipped cream Completely agree with your posting. I find it hard to argue with loved ones / family let alone

with someone on the Internet.



Have a Bouquet



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Dec 17, 2008 7:55 AM CST Love V Hate
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Dang, if I didn't just spit my drink out again while laughing!rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 17, 2008 8:07 AM CST Love V Hate
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
hopefloats: Dang, if I didn't just spit my drink out again while laughing!


So long as I didnt make you barf

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dancing
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Dec 17, 2008 8:34 AM CST Love V Hate
VinRougeMan08
VinRougeMan08VinRougeMan08Reims, Grand Est France12 Threads 39 Posts
Dude - you've never hated anyone? Even Jesus threw a fit in the temple. You can't bottle that stuff up. Even if you have to hire someone just to scream at them - do it. You'll feel better.
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