Capitalism, it's agressive form (Imperialism) and the economic crisis (40)
Anyway i feel i must thank you for your polite way of expressing your thoughts on a sensitive issue! When i started the thread i was afraid that havoc will come upon us! Glad to see people discuss difficult issues politely.
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Rid the monetary system....that would be the first step.
Actually, there would be a series of steps before that.
Actually, there would be a series of steps before that.
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StressFree: Rid the monetary system....that would be the first step.
Actually, there would be a series of steps before that.
Actually, there would be a series of steps before that.
Ah, a very interesting opinion! Very radical indeed!
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Conrad73: I didn't make the Statements,the OP did.Why should I do his Research for him,I did mine years ago.
BTW Google is only a few Clicks away,if someone wants to be bothered.
BTW Google is only a few Clicks away,if someone wants to be bothered.
What does make you think that i didn't do research beforehand? Should i study everything about Capitalism? I feel it's effect in every aspect of my life....Somethings are not found in books. You just feel them on your skin!
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Laconian: First of all thank you for your comments. From the definition given above i think the way i see capitalism is the second one. The mixed economy one. I am not an economist so i cannot have very deep understanding of Capitalism but since the economic system influences my life, then i think by concerns about it (Capitalism) are justified. My bigger problem with capitalism is that is based on profit. Since the word profit comes into play then obviously the most profound way to raise profits is to lower the sallaries. It is not the only way to increase profit i guess but this is the most common practice.
So despite one being a socialist, capitalist, or communist, the fact is that common people face poverty more and more often.
Also there is another key word about our society. I think the battle of classes is evident. So from that prespective i think that capitialismi favours the upper class...And of course every one would be happy if he had the chance to work and improve his life. But unemployment also increases rapidly. So people don't have one of the most basic rights. The right to work. Who cares about the theoretical arguements about the most proper form of capitalism or whether the goverment should interefere in free market? The fact is that you can't work...You can't find a job and so he can't strive to improve his social status.
So despite one being a socialist, capitalist, or communist, the fact is that common people face poverty more and more often.
Also there is another key word about our society. I think the battle of classes is evident. So from that prespective i think that capitialismi favours the upper class...And of course every one would be happy if he had the chance to work and improve his life. But unemployment also increases rapidly. So people don't have one of the most basic rights. The right to work. Who cares about the theoretical arguements about the most proper form of capitalism or whether the goverment should interefere in free market? The fact is that you can't work...You can't find a job and so he can't strive to improve his social status.
Well, it's hard to imagine why you shouldn't care, since the answers to those questions determine such things as whether or not you spend your time in a concentration camp or living in a society where work and products are abundant and fruitful.
I'm afraid these complex subjects can't be waved away through reference to one's gut feelings or even personal experience. You can no more create a prosperous and fair society from mere emotions and no theoretical understanding than you could construct a rocket ship from emotions and without theoretical knowledge.
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Laconian, I do not argue, discuss or debate under this thread. I only state.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.
I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.
I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
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bushbun: Laconian, I do not argue, discuss or debate under this thread. I only state.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
Have you ever thought of growing a short-cropped mustache, Bushy?
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bushbun: Laconian, I do not argue, discuss or debate under this thread. I only state.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
What's with your infatuation with Germany? Why should Europeans devote their support and serve Germany? Nonsense...
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bushbun: Laconian, I do not argue, discuss or debate under this thread. I only state.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
It is different for every country as it is for each one of us.I advise you and others in Europe to divotedly support and serve mother Germany(as much as possible), or if you prefer not to, you may also turn to Bisant(your next door). Whatever works for you dear Greek.
What????
'Mother Germany'
Expand please.
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Ambrose2007: Have you ever thought of growing a short-cropped mustache, Bushy?
Why should I...afterall I have my own personality.
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Sommerauer71: What????
'Mother Germany'
Expand please.
'Mother Germany'
Expand please.
Was there a country that gave more to Europe than Germany !???
There is German blod in every single one of you...like it or not is runing in your veins...From Spain to far Eastern Russia...das alles is Deutschland...
Europe was saved numerous times by Germany...
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StressFree: What's with your infatuation with Germany? Why should Europeans devote their support and serve Germany? Nonsense...
Because with out it, you would probably be talking some other language right now...perhaps !???
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bushbun: Because with out it, you would probably be talking some other language right now...perhaps !???
Look back further...a lot further. Beyond the old European linear script. I can make a silly case and say mother Nordic..lol
I think you have a ton of research to do my friend.
Come back when you have a sharper sword.
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StressFree: Rid the monetary system....that would be the first step.
Actually, there would be a series of steps before that.
Actually, there would be a series of steps before that.
Let me help y'all become money free..... send all your money to me.... I can help y'all rid yourselves of that evil that is called money.
Why is it always that the people want you to give up what you have and they don't?
Zee
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Galactic_bodhi: Workers are just a resource to be exploited like any other resource...its Capitalism all right. Labor is the least scarce resource in the world, and thus doesn't deserve respect, at least in the opinion of the rich.
Labour/labor is the most valueable resource; you could have all the money in the world, but it would be no good to you if you couldn't persuade people to take your money in exchange for what you want.
Capitalism is the best creator of wealth; the only problem is that it doesn't work perfectly, and individuals suffer in the short term as a result even though the majority of people benefit (certainly in the long term).
I certainly question what my needs are compared with what I'm led to believe are my wants. I'd certainly forego potential future luxuries for the security of knowing that my needs will be met for the rest of my life, but what right have I to deny others the possibility of making their dreams come true?
I've never been REALLY rich, but I have known a very good lifestyle and I was very happy as a child when life was very good - being 'priviledged' didn't make me feel guilty until I was a teenager, but I don't think wealth would make me feel guilty now.
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agman: We must remember that capitalism runs in cycles. First there is
period of growth and building on the backs of the laborers then
the rich tear it down (take the money and run) only to have the
laborers begin building it up again. I don't think capitalism will
ever end as long as some want more than others.
JMHO
period of growth and building on the backs of the laborers then
the rich tear it down (take the money and run) only to have the
laborers begin building it up again. I don't think capitalism will
ever end as long as some want more than others.
JMHO
I agree. It's back to the drawing board and riding bicycles!
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Laconian: Anyway i feel i must thank you for your polite way of expressing your thoughts on a sensitive issue! When i started the thread i was afraid that havoc will come upon us! Glad to see people discuss difficult issues politely.
I like a serious discussion. There is hope for all of us. Huge wealth is being created each and every day, but we are pushed and pushed to consume it before we are ready.
I would so like to go back to saving up for something I want and not be tempted to just grab what I want NOW in some sort of buying frenzy............ now saving is considered 'bad' for the economy, but I'd prefer slower growth and people to have less debt and feel good about themselves and each other.
'Buy now, pay later' is what has caused the whole system to collapse in my opinion - plus you can never make 'a quick buck' without somebody else suffering........ I'd rather make money slowly and honestly and build up wealth over time.
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It's funny though that in a democratic nation like America the communist party is illegal. If communist theory is proved wrong so why do they bother with these people? According to many they are living in a utopia. So why bother ban them and disclaim their party illegal?
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Nationalism is at the root of true capitalism. The Wealth of Nations is built not by Multi-nationals, but by small business. When corporations that have no allegiance to the countries they operate in are given free rein, economic collapse is inevitable as the nations wealth is sucked from its economy into the hands of people who arent even citizens.
Adam Smith is crying...
Adam Smith is crying...
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period of growth and building on the backs of the laborers then
the rich tear it down (take the money and run) only to have the
laborers begin building it up again. I don't think capitalism will
ever end as long as some want more than others.
JMHO
Capitalism describes human nature so accurately that is scary.