Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share ! (736)
leolove1: first of all , I do not think that the Israeli are planning to kill your mother , if something like that would have happened , there must have been a reason or accident
secondly , it was a piece of dessert, a no-ones-land, with no government , only some nomads , herding sheeps and a few dwellings beside one big city of Jerusalem
they came with thousands and began to make the dessert into a fertile land
I had to flee my country , because we got an invasion of immigrants from whole over the world and they "occupied" my city
secondly , it was a piece of dessert, a no-ones-land, with no government , only some nomads , herding sheeps and a few dwellings beside one big city of Jerusalem
they came with thousands and began to make the dessert into a fertile land
I had to flee my country , because we got an invasion of immigrants from whole over the world and they "occupied" my city
correction ! Palestine was never a piece of desert , i do really think that you need ot read more about Palestine bfore 1948 , there was a nation, houses , academic institutions , schools , theatres , shops and even tourism , please read more about the history of Palestine before the crisis of 1948 , and they didnt really make it a fertile land , the truth is , they are distroying all the farms everyday , it was fertile before their accupation .
please lets not talk or discuss something we are not sure of .
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cosmicwonderer: Hello again my INCA friend. I´m back. I´m watching. But do you think that the chosen ones will ever stoop so low as to admit their guilt? I don`t think so and I don`t want to waste too much energy arguing with a nation of self righteous swine. After all the god of Abraham has always given them the priviledge of invading anybody they choose and to murder every living thing including the livestock and even the grass that the cattle eat. The only ones that are allowed to survive are the young girls that ``have not known man for these you shall save for yourselves`` so that thou shalt ravish their fresh bodies for such is the law of the almighty god of Abraham and who will dare dispute such a monster whose greatest hobby is to watch innocent souls fry in HELL?
Hi you there mate!!
Thanks for the compliments. Well, keep eyes wide open because there is still a long way ahead.
As for my contributions I do what I can... here I am so overloaded with my work to win my bread.... Anyway I will be around to wrestle with the holy fighters of freedom, democracy, peace and all that.
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arranroot: And that explains how GB got in twice who counts the votes?
well said :)
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RayfromUSA: I agree with your assessment.
That's the way the world has worked for centuries.
But I think things are about to change.
Evil is going global, and nationalistic evil, whether Jewish or British, or American or whatever, stands in the way and is scheduled for controlled demolition.
Watch for the rise of a World Government.
That's the way the world has worked for centuries.
But I think things are about to change.
Evil is going global, and nationalistic evil, whether Jewish or British, or American or whatever, stands in the way and is scheduled for controlled demolition.
Watch for the rise of a World Government.
Lots of people can feel the change coming on. Evil isnt global, its human. A world government will rise and like every other government with very very few exceptions it will eventually become corrupt.
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nora83: correction ! Palestine was never a piece of desert , i do really think that you need ot read more about Palestine bfore 1948 , there was a nation, houses , academic institutions , schools , theatres , shops and even tourism , please read more about the history of Palestine before the crisis of 1948 , and they didnt really make it a fertile land , the truth is , they are distroying all the farms everyday , it was fertile before their accupation .
please lets not talk or discuss something we are not sure of .
please lets not talk or discuss something we are not sure of .
Very good point. Mr. Leolove maybe need to read more about the facts. Besides, why a state for Jews? Yeah, what was the point of it again?
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JacobGrimm: You miss the point sir.. there is no supreme god, but the god created by man.
Until we stop like this god acts, meaning all high and mighty, and full of damnation, he then still exists in us.
His removal comes from inside of you.
Until we stop like this god acts, meaning all high and mighty, and full of damnation, he then still exists in us.
His removal comes from inside of you.
Look mister holyman you dont have to scold me cause I know perfectly well what I´m saying about the g-d of Abraham. So get on your bike and find another punchbag
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linarl: Very good point. Mr. Leolove maybe need to read more about the facts. Besides, why a state for Jews? Yeah, what was the point of it again?
Ive got ingrown toenails, can all us people with ingrown toenails have our own state if I have a book that says God wants us to have one? Please?????
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cosmicwonderer: Look mister holyman you dont have to scold me cause I know perfectly well what I´m saying about the g-d of Abraham. So get on your bike and find another punchbag
ok god.
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arranroot: Lots of people can feel the change coming on. Evil isnt global, its human. A world government will rise and like every other government with very very few exceptions it will eventually become corrupt.
It definately is of self, the individual. Be it a single person, group, political party, organization, etc. etc. Its your choice, and being of human reason, definition, it is global.
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arranroot: New world order? Like the Roman Empire, British Empire, loads of Empires over in China, Mongolia, etc., etc., thats our history so its easy to predict, its like predicting a wheel will go round and round and round and ..... you get the point Its going to happen because thats how we humans exist.
Ahh but there is a difference this time.
The New World Order rising at the moment will be truly global.
A single economy.
A single currency.
A single government.
etc.
And to bring it all together they intend to institute a new global religion as well.
Some sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo similar to Kabbalism/Quantum Physics/The Secret etc.
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RayfromUSA: Ahh but there is a difference this time.
The New World Order rising at the moment will be truly global.
A single economy.
A single currency.
A single government.
etc.
And to bring it all together they intend to institute a new global religion as well.
Some sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo similar to Kabbalism/Quantum Physics/The Secret etc.
The New World Order rising at the moment will be truly global.
A single economy.
A single currency.
A single government.
etc.
And to bring it all together they intend to institute a new global religion as well.
Some sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo similar to Kabbalism/Quantum Physics/The Secret etc.
CORRECT ONCE MORE RAY::applause:
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CjTenorSax: We do stand up to our leaders -it is called an Election.
Ahhhh Elections, oh yeah I remember those.
That's where you push the button on the Diebold machine and it goes "beep" and says "thank you for voting".
And that's what you call "standing up to leaders"?
Who do you think programs those machines????
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if you make a neutral state that is ruled by the majority , you will end up in the same way , that is democracy , if you like it or not, the country will be ruled by the Jewish
and it was a piece of dessert , with some small dwellings as i mentioned before . all the academics , theaters and so on were found in Jerusalem and some tiny villages
but the fast aria was dessert, I think that you might find a better geological source
and it was a piece of dessert , with some small dwellings as i mentioned before . all the academics , theaters and so on were found in Jerusalem and some tiny villages
but the fast aria was dessert, I think that you might find a better geological source
linarl: Very good point. Mr. Leolove maybe need to read more about the facts. Besides, why a state for Jews? Yeah, what was the point of it again?
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In response to: Really? What an argument!! how comes there are still Jews then after all the concentration camps?
Six million less than there were. Just about every Jew in Europe gone. So, are you alluding that six million Palestinians are now dead? I would need some figures to support that if it is your contention.
In response to:
I think killing is killing being done after gathering people in a camp or targeting your fire toward civilians and children in a UN shcool. You do not have to gather the people sometimes, you just need to do the killing.
I think killing is killing being done after gathering people in a camp or targeting your fire toward civilians and children in a UN shcool. You do not have to gather the people sometimes, you just need to do the killing.
Ten thousand troops with tanks, jets, artillery and all they've managed to kill is five hundred people?
Incredible restraint to tell the truth.
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RayfromUSA: Ahh but there is a difference this time.
The New World Order rising at the moment will be truly global.
A single economy.
A single currency.
A single government.
etc.
And to bring it all together they intend to institute a new global religion as well.
Some sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo similar to Kabbalism/Quantum Physics/The Secret etc.
The New World Order rising at the moment will be truly global.
A single economy.
A single currency.
A single government.
etc.
And to bring it all together they intend to institute a new global religion as well.
Some sort of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo similar to Kabbalism/Quantum Physics/The Secret etc.
Oh my gosh! You are calling "Quantum Physics and the Secret" pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo? Guess you are now challenging Stressfree and QueenofAngels and others into this one if they see your comment. Perhaps this would be a good one for you to post for a new thread. Stress and Queen will beat you to death for calling their philosophies mumbo-jumbo. You will not win.
Prepare for verbal death from them! They will not be civil to you in any sense of the word undoubtably.
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LILLYLADY: Thank you Nora for your response. You have my admiration and respect for all the pain that you feel in your heart.
As I have mentioned in my posting to you, the Jews have never left the land in question over the 1000s of years, nor have your people either. Both were displaced or driven out on both sides. But many of both peoples were able to remain there and many descendants have come back to the area of their ancestors origins.
Both nations as descendants of Abraham should be able to share the land, not anihilate the other for the right to own everything. Hence the historical battles started happening and continue to this day.
I did see the CNN article where Hamas fired at Israel from a school right by the refugee camps and Israel fired back, thus killing many children. I cannot understand why anyone would shoot at their enemy and put their children right in the line of fire where the enemy is firing at them. Is this a religious obligation to do this? I do not understand the Islamic law if this is something that is approved of. This is not meant as a sarcastic question but truly, something that perhaps you might be able to clarify.
I have also just read on today's CNN a commentary by Arsalan Ilftikhar where he believes both sides are wrong in Gaza. He blames Hamas for provoking Israel with missle fire and then the disproportionate use of military retaliation by the Israelis. The entire article gives one pause to think with some deep thinking, being written by a man of middle eastern Islamic decent.
Bottom line here Nora is that both sides of the civilians have suffered, emotionally and physically. It will either come down to where Hamas is totally surrounded and will either hide themselves and shoot and continue to put their civilians in the crossfire or have the courage to lay down their weapons and sign a permanent peace treaty with Israel. I believe the Palestinian peoples future and recognition for statehood lies in having the honor to sign a peace treaty and permanently honor it. No more rockets into Israel, no more human life shed on either side.
They would not be the first to sign a peace treaty with the enemy in the entire history of the world. Japan and Egypt are examples of what could be acheived with a lasting peace with their sworn enemy...a chance for future generations. It has to be a lasting peace Nora for your people to have a chance. Please correct me if I'm wrong in stating that Japan and Egypt overall live in peace with their prior enemies. No bombs being dropped on each other that is.
Again, thanks for your posting.
As I have mentioned in my posting to you, the Jews have never left the land in question over the 1000s of years, nor have your people either. Both were displaced or driven out on both sides. But many of both peoples were able to remain there and many descendants have come back to the area of their ancestors origins.
Both nations as descendants of Abraham should be able to share the land, not anihilate the other for the right to own everything. Hence the historical battles started happening and continue to this day.
I did see the CNN article where Hamas fired at Israel from a school right by the refugee camps and Israel fired back, thus killing many children. I cannot understand why anyone would shoot at their enemy and put their children right in the line of fire where the enemy is firing at them. Is this a religious obligation to do this? I do not understand the Islamic law if this is something that is approved of. This is not meant as a sarcastic question but truly, something that perhaps you might be able to clarify.
I have also just read on today's CNN a commentary by Arsalan Ilftikhar where he believes both sides are wrong in Gaza. He blames Hamas for provoking Israel with missle fire and then the disproportionate use of military retaliation by the Israelis. The entire article gives one pause to think with some deep thinking, being written by a man of middle eastern Islamic decent.
Bottom line here Nora is that both sides of the civilians have suffered, emotionally and physically. It will either come down to where Hamas is totally surrounded and will either hide themselves and shoot and continue to put their civilians in the crossfire or have the courage to lay down their weapons and sign a permanent peace treaty with Israel. I believe the Palestinian peoples future and recognition for statehood lies in having the honor to sign a peace treaty and permanently honor it. No more rockets into Israel, no more human life shed on either side.
They would not be the first to sign a peace treaty with the enemy in the entire history of the world. Japan and Egypt are examples of what could be acheived with a lasting peace with their sworn enemy...a chance for future generations. It has to be a lasting peace Nora for your people to have a chance. Please correct me if I'm wrong in stating that Japan and Egypt overall live in peace with their prior enemies. No bombs being dropped on each other that is.
Again, thanks for your posting.
regarding the CNN article about Hamas being hiding behind the kids , shooting at their enemy and put their children right in the line of fire where the enemy is firing at them. this is not true , Gaza is not that big , Israel is making raid every hour , sometimes every minute , among houses and schools and masques ( Masjid ) and shopping markets, the whole infrastructure , most of the houses are distroyed , im sorry but do you want to convince me that they are only shooting the target , only shooting Hamas members , only shooting the weapons stores , i didnt know that every house is Gaza has one of hamas memebers , i didnt know that Hamas has enough weapons to put one bullet in each house of the houses which were shoot , and were totally distroyed , today they killed 13 member of one family , and they never met any of Hamas members. its not true that Hamas are hiding behind kids or women , and do you wanna convince me that all these kids and women who were killed had some Hamas member behind them .
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leolove1: if you make a neutral state that is ruled by the majority , you will end up in the same way , that is democracy , if you like it or not, the country will be ruled by the Jewish
and it was a piece of dessert , with some small dwellings as i mentioned before . all the academics , theaters and so on were found in Jerusalem and some tiny villages
but the fast aria was dessert, I think that you might find a better geological source
and it was a piece of dessert , with some small dwellings as i mentioned before . all the academics , theaters and so on were found in Jerusalem and some tiny villages
but the fast aria was dessert, I think that you might find a better geological source
I think you missed my point, why to build a state in 1948 for Jews on other people lands to start with? Judiasm is a religion and religions should be practiced privately. It is something spiritual between a person and their "god" whatever that is. Why do all the killing that has been going on since 1948 to establish a state in the middle of Arab world?
As for your word democracy, it is funny here because when you bring millions of Jews from all over the world and stuck them in Palestine and say what is the majority? democracy loses its meaning. It is an artificial democracy.
As I told you before Mr. Leolove you need to read the facts again. Israel needs to be disarmed, needs to realize that what has been going on since 1948 should stop, they need peace more than anyone else. and yes, with no conditions as in the past...
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And that explains how GB got in twice