As I watch the dead and the dying growing in numbers, I cannot help but wonder.
This war is not about Palestinians and the Jews.
This war is about Hamas.
There is no war happening in the West Bank, thank God.
It seems that the whole thing was orchestrated to make Israel attack Gaza to inflame the rest of the world and instigate an all out attack on Israel from all sides.
It did not happen, and now Hamas are realizing they are not dragging other countries into this mess.
Let us all hope that with the efforts being done now by the international community, things may cool down a bit and sorted out without any further blood being shed.
It is only then that we may all put in our efforts for justice to be given to the Palestinian people. And stop bickering among ourselves as to who is right and who is wrong.
May whichever God you believe in help you to achieve peace.
Insight? Even if that happens to be true is it reason to slaughter HUNDREDS of innocent people? You muppet, what rubbish are you spewing? Does anyone want to live in a world where the consequences of a person from one country killing a person from another country is hundreds of civilians killed by an army? Insight? What you are saying is that if an Irishman get killed in America its acceptable for the Irish army to invade America ya thats likely to happen but what if a Chinese person were to get murdered while on holidays in Nepal? Bend over Nepal insight
Insight? Even if that happens to be true is it reason to slaughter HUNDREDS of innocent people? You muppet, what rubbish are you spewing? Does anyone want to live in a world where the consequences of a person from one country killing a person from another country is hundreds of civilians killed by an army? Insight? What you are saying is that if an Irishman get killed in America its acceptable for the Irish army to invade America ya thats likely to happen but what if a Chinese person were to get murdered while on holidays in Nepal? Bend over Nepal insight
arranroot: Insight? Even if that happens to be true is it reason to slaughter HUNDREDS of innocent people? You muppet, what rubbish are you spewing? Does anyone want to live in a world where the consequences of a person from one country killing a person from another country is hundreds of civilians killed by an army? Insight? What you are saying is that if an Irishman get killed in America its acceptable for the Irish army to invade America ya thats likely to happen but what if a Chinese person were to get murdered while on holidays in Nepal? Bend over Nepal insight
If you get your news from an American television network, no matter how horrible you think what’s happening in Gaza is the reality !! Its much, much, much worse. See any French channel (has an english program as well!) or the English-language Al-Jazeera channel, followed and received in the rest of the world, is unofficially banned in the US ...not a single cable or satellite provider carries it.. so far for free press.. Wake up !
And yet even with this imperfect coverage people all over the world, are protesting about what they are seeing. over a Million person demonstrations have been held, from Melbourne to Jakarta, from Calcutta to Istanbul, and from Vienna to London, not to mention the huge popular protests in Beirut, Cairo, Damascus, Amman, across the length and breadth of the West Bank, and in some of the largest protests ever held in Palestinian communities inside Israel.
Across the US, too, people have been protesting, writing letters to the editors of the newspapers, the internet has been a major source of information for all those millions who have figured out that they will never learn what they need to learn from the New York Times or the Washington Post or ABC or CNN ect. but you find (if you look for it ) that many others that have carried extraordinarily intelligent and detailed news by commentators whose sense of what is happening far exceeds to the mainstream press—including many superb pieces by Jewish that they are not accepting Israel’s violence.
cosmicwonderer: But who really cares about jewish genetic history? What you trying to prove? that you`re still the chosen ones?
Truly Cosmic, this point is really none of your business to begin as you obviously point out that you don't care. But obviously, some do care as they pointed it out earlier on the forum. This is a point in an article from RayfromUSA where he pointed it out on page 27. He has graciously pointed this out on a website posting that he has instructed people to view and I have done so. So I have to agree with this point as it is scientific proof. Again, thank you Ray!! It was meant as concreate proof by Ray for people who pointed out in the postings that Eastern European Jew foreigners had no connections to the middle east. I guess Ray himself has undoubtably proven the connection to all of us here. Now, will you please kindly bud out after reading this as you truly do not care about genetic history, only Jew bashing. Thank you!
highfidelity: If you get your news from an American television network, no matter how horrible you think what’s happening in Gaza is the reality !! Its much, much, much worse. See any French channel (has an english program as well!) or the English-language Al-Jazeera channel, followed and received in the rest of the world, is unofficially banned in the US ...not a single cable or satellite provider carries it.. so far for free press.. Wake up !
And yet even with this imperfect coverage people all over the world, are protesting about what they are seeing. over a Million person demonstrations have been held, from Melbourne to Jakarta, from Calcutta to Istanbul, and from Vienna to London, not to mention the huge popular protests in Beirut, Cairo, Damascus, Amman, across the length and breadth of the West Bank, and in some of the largest protests ever held in Palestinian communities inside Israel.
Across the US, too, people have been protesting, writing letters to the editors of the newspapers, the internet has been a major source of information for all those millions who have figured out that they will never learn what they need to learn from the New York Times or the Washington Post or ABC or CNN ect. but you find (if you look for it ) that many others that have carried extraordinarily intelligent and detailed news by commentators whose sense of what is happening far exceeds to the mainstream press—including many superb pieces by Jewish that they are not accepting Israel’s violence.
cosmicwondererstockholm, Stockholm Sweden107 posts
LILLYLADY: Truly Cosmic, this point is really none of your business to begin as you obviously point out that you don't care. But obviously, some do care as they pointed it out earlier on the forum. This is a point in an article from RayfromUSA where he pointed it out on page 27. He has graciously pointed this out on a website posting that he has instructed people to view and I have done so. So I have to agree with this point as it is scientific proof. Again, thank you Ray!! It was meant as concreate proof by Ray for people who pointed out in the postings that Eastern European Jew foreigners had no connections to the middle east. I guess Ray himself has undoubtably proven the connection to all of us here. Now, will you please kindly bud out after reading this as you truly do not care about genetic history, only Jew bashing. Thank you!
OH you run out of punchbags now? Go do some knitting or something LADY and let me get some peace (not piece) I already got one of those
LILLYLADY: Ray, this was your article that you posted, remember? I'm not doubting it.It is you that now need to disprove the genetics and everything else that the author of the article wrote.It is you that disagree with what you posted for everyone to read. YOU spend the time and disprove what you posted. When you posted this article, it is you that wanted us to see this to prove something you believe in. So I am in agreement with that part of the article. Plain and simple as that!!
Ray, my comment here was in regard to your publishing of the web site
. Thank you!! Perhaps you can enlighten us a bit more. I find that a very interesting article as I am very interested in genetics to begin with as I have a personal stake in genetics beyond just a place of birth on this planet.
cosmicwonderer: OH you run out of punchbags now? Go do some knitting or something LADY and let me get some peace (not piece) I already got one of those
Sounds like you got some of the wind knocked out of you bud. What, too much Jew bashing here? Seems it is your favorite pastime. Are you worn out already?
arranroot: Insight? Even if that happens to be true is it reason to slaughter HUNDREDS of innocent people? You muppet, what rubbish are you spewing? Does anyone want to live in a world where the consequences of a person from one country killing a person from another country is hundreds of civilians killed by an army? Insight? What you are saying is that if an Irishman get killed in America its acceptable for the Irish army to invade America ya thats likely to happen but what if a Chinese person were to get murdered while on holidays in Nepal? Bend over Nepal insight
Was this really necessary? Has there not been enought bloodshed in Gaza, Mumbai in the last few months? Do not those of us that have Loved ones in the areas really need to be bombarded by more hatred. Or to cause a whole nother group of people to jump in to the fray by irresponsible words?
We all need to learn to Live and Let Live. To each thier own.
cosmicwondererstockholm, Stockholm Sweden107 posts
LILLYLADY: Sounds like you got some of the wind knocked out of you bud. What, too much Jew bashing here? Seems it is your favorite pastime. Are you worn out already?
Not at all Babe I`m just having some real fun with a real woman right now and I dont have time for gene analysis while I´m planting my seeds
Neve Gordon is chair of the department of politics and government at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev and author of Israel’s Occupation (University of California Press, 2008).
Jeff Halper Jeff Halper is the Director of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions (ICAHD) and author of An Israeli in Palestine: Resisting Dispossession, Redeeming Israel (Pluto Press, 2008).
"By launching an attack on Gaza, the Israeli government has once again chosen to adopt strategies of violence that are tragically akin to the ones deployed by Hamas — only the Israeli tactics are much more lethal. How should academics respond to this assault on an institution of higher education? Regardless of one’s stand on the proposed boycott of Israeli universities, anyone so concerned about academic freedom as to put one’s name on a petition should be no less outraged when Israel bombs a Palestinian university. The question, then, is whether the university presidents and professors who signed the various petitions denouncing efforts to boycott Israel will speak out against the destruction of the Islamic University."
I hope this article you posted is directly related to Canada policies sir! That is what was pointed out in a poster's comments that you responded to here. If not, the connection is a moot issue on what you have just posted. Is Israel and Canada under the same government? If so, then your point here is very valid. If not, well, it's a moot issue.Thank you.
Perhaps I can answer some of what you said above with the agony that our people have endured by describing a little bit of the holocaust. Not mentioning here the pogroms all over Europe and Russia that have gone on for centuries. Your people should not have had to endure the senseless loss of life that is occurring. It is at the hands of Hamas that have put your people in the situation it is in now.
thank you for your post lily ,
but i dont see it in the hands of Hamas , its in the hands of israelies , bcz they did so before hamas ruled , and also did that in lebanon in 2006 , it want hamas conflict that time, also the famous Massacre in lebanon against Palestinians in Sabra and Shateila cities , it was not Hamas that time as well , and many other Massacres committed by the israelies . with or without Hamas .
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As I watch the dead and the dying growing in numbers, I cannot help but wonder.
This war is not about Palestinians and the Jews.
This war is about Hamas.
There is no war happening in the West Bank, thank God.
It seems that the whole thing was orchestrated to make Israel attack Gaza to inflame the rest of the world and instigate an all out attack on Israel from all sides.
It did not happen, and now Hamas are realizing they are not dragging other countries into this mess.
Let us all hope that with the efforts being done now by the international community, things may cool down a bit and sorted out without any further blood being shed.
It is only then that we may all put in our efforts for justice to be given to the Palestinian people. And stop bickering among ourselves as to who is right and who is wrong.
May whichever God you believe in help you to achieve peace.
I like your insight!