leolove1: the jewish people are also the indigenous people of "Israel", palestine, Jordan, Iraq,lebanon
Oh I see your extra point now... well Those that came from Europe could not be indigenous anymore. So can you come back to Europe and call yourself indigeneous? get land and all that? This is the point... they did not have any right for the land even if some of their ancestors left Palestine long ago.
Sparky55: Here's one link. When Arafat died it was all over the news in the US. Sad really, she was living a life of luxury in Paris and perhaps still is.
LILLYLADY: Jacob, in answer to your question above I believe that it most likely is their own bretheren that are giving away where the weapons are stored by firing right from the building in the first place. They don't seem to be overly concerned regarding children or anyone that is inside the building before they start firing their rockets. It doesn't seem logical that they would put their children as a human shield. The IDF just traces the marker and fires right back to that location. Just as plain and simple as that! Just as plain as watching fireworks as they are being launched before they explode.
Point taken on the fireworks
Its not like they can lauch rockets from Pallisades park is it? I mean rocket launching is somewhat limited as to area of coverage. I'm not defending the launch goons, as either side cares little for any civilians. I hardly see that as storage as well, the amunition has to moved to an area within range of targets, the children are not even an after thought. War ignores collateral damage.
JacobGrimm: I think it is used as intended, as control, unification. To practice a beleif in god is not the same as participating in a war of god's. But I sense some protectiveness in this area, so I will press it no further. wealth/profit yes.. opposition removal yes (though it doesn't seem to be removed here does it?)...However the "oppostions" ares also created by those who want/have the wealth. It is really as I said, lather rinse repeat, watch the coffers grow, as the coffins plow by.
So who is getting rich? It is as you suggest very significant.
One other purpose of war is population control.
War is not the idealogy of the common man. This notion has to be set aside in favour of 'apathy and greed', even the notion of being the world's god. That notion must be ingested to totally understand power cycle at its core. Thinking of it from a common man's view leads you down a path that will not find understanding of anything but a common man's view yes?
Think apathy, greed, a mankind's god.
Naw, I not overly sensitive in this area. I have my own religious beliefs and keep them to myself unless asked. I wish more people did the same. Besides, you've never been invasive or overly critical.
I agree with your other comments. Hadn't thought about population control but that's certainly a result.
leolove1: and if you do not know the facts , that I mentioned , just read what I 've said before
"what's the point? arabs and muslims are coming with thousands to live in america, Australia and Europe and cause many problems there , so why can't the jewish come to Israel? If we do not like the Moslems to come , should we also terrorize them and blowing ourself up in busses , so that they have to defend themselves making strict rules and keep us out of our own country or building big walls to protect themselves?"
Ok, Why kind of problems do they cause in your country? And is it the Arabic inmigration similar to the occupation of Palestine by the Zionsit who then used the survivors of the Holocaust to populate the country? You have not made any precise similarity of situations just to show how mean they are and how generous you are to let them come to your countries. Your comment is charged with your resentment that you feel against the Arabs.
Antjo39: "what's the point? arabs and muslims are coming with thousands to live in america, Australia and Europe and cause many problems there , so why can't the jewish come to Israel? If we do not like the Moslems to come , should we also terrorize them and blowing ourself up in busses , so that they have to defend themselves making strict rules and keep us out of our own country or building big walls to protect themselves?"
Ok, Why kind of problems do they cause in your country? And is it the Arabic inmigration similar to the occupation of Palestine by the Zionsit who then used the survivors of the Holocaust to populate the country? You have not made any precise similarity of situations just to show how mean they are and how generous you are to let them come to your countries. Your comment is charged with your resentment that you feel against the Arabs.
The upper part is your stuff leolove... just in case you do not remember.
Jan 5, 2009 11:07 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
leolove1The Hague, South Holland Netherlands92 Posts
leolove1The Hague, South Holland Netherlands92 posts
we have to think in a different way I think that the whole world is for everyone and we must come to the situation where there are no borders anymore and we can settle everywhere , if you read my earlier quotes I mention this before with muslims coming to Europe, we also have to accept that. we should stop claiming land and try to live together in a free world
Antjo39: Oh I see your extra point now... well Those that came from Europe could not be indigenous anymore. So can you come back to Europe and call yourself indigeneous? get land and all that? This is the point... they did not have any right for the land even if some of their ancestors left Palestine long ago.
Naw, I not overly sensitive in this area. I have my own religious beliefs and keep them to myself unless asked. I wish more people did the same. Besides, you've never been invasive or overly critical.
I agree with your other comments. Hadn't thought about population control but that's certainly a result.
All this for money and power...[/quote
And it's not easy for a common man to think so wickedly without becoming outraged.
The truely wicked, the one's who know and wield this power do not have this or many emotional compunctions at all. Civilians are just another brick in their wall.
Population is and has been a very big problem. Adding to this is the scare tacticts of media driven 2012, end of world prophecies all tied to Revelations and now you have millions of jesus's 'followers' wanting to be there, in the promised land for the liftoff to rapture.
Sparky55: Naw, I not overly sensitive in this area. I have my own religious beliefs and keep them to myself unless asked. I wish more people did the same. Besides, you've never been invasive or overly critical.
I agree with your other comments. Hadn't thought about population control but that's certainly a result.
All this for money and power...
And it's not easy for a common man to think so wickedly without becoming outraged.
The truely wicked, the one's who know and wield this power do not have this or many emotional compunctions at all. Civilians are just another brick in their wall.
Population is and has been a very big problem. Adding to this is the scare tacticts of media driven 2012, end of world prophecies all tied to Revelations and now you have millions of jesus's 'followers' wanting to be there, in the promised land for the liftoff to rapture.
Jan 5, 2009 11:16 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
leolove1The Hague, South Holland Netherlands92 Posts
leolove1The Hague, South Holland Netherlands92 posts
look , I have nothing against anybody who wants to live together I do not like people who think that they are better then others just because their religion fanatics , that are brainwashed by their stupid beliefs , their ignorance is even dangerous
Antjo39: The upper part is your stuff leolove... just in case you do not remember.
It is an orchestrated effort if you notice......when the thread starts heading in other directions then the one talking about the killing and the blood......
the op suddenly appears from nowhere to restart the argument about what crimes are being committed against the Palestinians...
and then disappears again.
It seems that this whole damn war has been meant for that one purpose....to make Israel attack so the whole world could see what criminals they are and what they are doing to the palestinians....
It seems like a manipulated scheme by Hamas to get the attention of the entire planet focused on the carnage that is taking place.
And they have succeede....we are even quarrelling among us here.....and this is just a damn DATING SITE.....
Ur right,I have been through this many times and I am not sure its not the same person.they would come on time after time with a different profile,and as u can see there will always be two or three who are with them that is seldom,seen or havent been seen before.BTW her profile says she has no children,and on the other thread,she states a wish for her 4 children.
Hugz_n_Kissez: I comin over there to take over Peru...can you please send me the maps of where all the prime real-estate is located?????
Baby, you will have to bring the bulldozers because I will blow up all the available ones (if your hidden plan is to invade my country) But if you just want to stay peacefully ,my bed is wide and warm... just come over....
Jan 5, 2009 11:21 PM CST Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !
leolove1The Hague, South Holland Netherlands92 Posts
leolove1The Hague, South Holland Netherlands92 posts
if I do not like the place where I am , I would just go and find a better place , that is better for my children. Better live a happy life with my kids then a bitter life with no kids
leolove1: look , I have nothing against anybody who wants to live together I do not like people who think that they are better then others just because their religion fanatics , that are brainwashed by their stupid beliefs , their ignorance is even dangerous
I do not like them either... but do not you think that many (not all but many) Israelis and Westerners think they are better than the Arabs (especially of those poor ones living in Palestine) Well, you sounded like that to my ears. And sorry if I have been wrong.
Antjo39: Baby, you will have to bring the bulldozers because I will blow up all the available ones (if your hidden plan is to invade my country) But if you just want to stay peacefully ,my bed is wide and warm... just come over....
Well I'll have to think a little deeper on my motivations then...
I think we have talked enough ,time for work ,Israel is only using the rockets and Hamas , as an excuse , they just need more land , less Palestinians, its a security matter ,Israel will never have security as long as Palistinians are around the corner , there will never be a peace treaty with any Palistinenians there for , all that believe that Israel is killing the palisteinians just for their own good must now act cut every thing to do with Israel ,sever all communication business that directly pore money onto Israel ,time to act enough blah blah blah , let us all stand for humanity and do something for the right of humans ,Zionists ,have to go home where ever they came from ,
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Oh I see your extra point now...
well
Those that came from Europe could not be indigenous anymore.
So can you come back to Europe and call yourself indigeneous? get land and all that?
This is the point... they did not have any right for the land even if some of their ancestors left Palestine long ago.