Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share ! ( Locked) (736)

Maybe she's smarter than we think. We all contributed to a full thread and many expressed a great deal of hate towards each other. Maybe she's the Dude.

Seriously, these debates are almost completely pointless

Then I would actually say that the Isreali army is doing Ok then because 50% of the people are 14 yrs. old and younger, Its sad that some innocent people are dying, but some of he people who get killed may not be Hamas members, but they support them......

and there isn't stats on the people who were killed that were supporters of Hamas, my guess is that some of the civilians that are killed may very well support Hamas.. I feel sorry for the civilians that dis-agree with what Hamas stands for....JMO

As Tzipi Livni stated today on CNN:
Before the military operation, Hamas targets Israelis whenever it likes and Israel shows restraint. This is no longer going to be the equation. When Israel is targeted, Israel is going to retaliate.
Mahmoud al-Zahir states the the Quassam rockets are not the problem but the military seige by the Israelis. He also goes on to say that the Israelis have bombed mosques, schools, hospitals, children and their homes. (Of course he does not mention that the Hamas fighters are hiding and shooting at the Israelis from those sites nor does he even mention that caches of weapons or bomb making factories that are hidden in these places) And he also says that he will not stop the rocket firing in spite of at least 500 of his people dying and more dying everyday. Now that is really quite some leader who wants to get his people a homeland to live in peace.
Perhaps CNN should do a historical pictorial review for comparison of the Israeli devastation and loss of lives from the rockets and suicide bombers that have taken so many Israeli lives over time. And you wonder why the Israeli people are so hardened and yet are suppossed to show restraint?
Israel pulled out of Gaza 2 yrs ago to give the people a chance to form their own govt and set up a peaceful state for themselves and they wound up killing each other and leaving Israel alone for awhile. They have not proven to themselves or the world that they are ready for an independent state that can live side by side in peace with all their neighbors. When they are truly committed to a permanent lasting peace, then and only then will they have a state.
You asked CSers what they think in your forum and this is what I think.
You asked CSers what they think and this is my view.

Sorry I repeated myself 2x at the end of my posting above. Disregard the last line.

So well said Hugz.

“Israel has failed the test”

“In the Oslo Agreements, Israel and the West put Palestinian leadership to a test: In exchange for an Israeli promise to gradually dismantle the mechanisms of the occupation in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Palestinian leadership promised to stop every act of violence and terror immediately. For that purpose, all the apparatus for security coordination was created, more and more Palestinian jails were built, and demonstrators were barred from approaching the settlements.

“The two sides agreed on a period of five years for completion of the new deployment and the negotiations on a final agreement. The Palestinian leadership agreed again and again to extend its trial period...From their perspective, Israel was also put to a test: Was Israel really giving up its attitude of superiority and domination, built up in order to keep the Palestinian people under its control?

“More than seven years have gone by and Israel has security and administrative control of 61.2% of the West Bank and about 20% of the Gaza Strip and security control over another 26.8% of the West Bank. This control is what has enabled Israel to double the number of settlers in 10 years..and to seal an entire nation into restricted areas, imprisoned in a network of bypass roads meant for Jews only...

“Israel has failed the test. Palestinians control of 12% of the West Bank does not mean that Israel has given up its attitude of superiority and domination...The bloodbath that has been going on for three weeks is the natural outcome of seven years of lying and deception.” Israeli journalist Amira Hass, “Israel Has Failed The Test,” in Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, 10/18/00.

Hamas had to know the response they would get by firing rockets into Israel. Though I believe Israel's retalliation is excessive

Thanx doll...but I am posting things from the link I gave...it was written by Jewish people themselves called Jews for Justice in an effort to dispel the myths and report the truth...the truth which very few people are aware of and also some Israelie authors were contributors to it...so it's a very factual piece which is well worth the read if people want to know the real facts and truth...