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Jan 23, 2009 10:47 AM CST What do you think of this??
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER
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Jan 23, 2009 10:53 AM CST What do you think of this??
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER
this, comming from a five star general, has to make one stop and think, does'nt it?....conversing
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Jan 23, 2009 10:59 AM CST What do you think of this??
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
Yes...I was really suprised upon reading thisconfused
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Jan 23, 2009 10:59 AM CST What do you think of this??
Steveno
StevenoStevenoQassim, Al-Qassim Saudi Arabia140 Threads 485 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER


Hello ship,...We are here to add what we can to life, not to get what we can from it.

wave
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Jan 23, 2009 11:00 AM CST What do you think of this??
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER


Quite often pointed at them also.sigh
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Jan 23, 2009 11:15 AM CST What do you think of this??
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA7 Threads 1 Polls 2,405 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER



What do I think of it?

I think it's the truth............hug

Too bad those in power take heed to that quote.bouquet
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Jan 23, 2009 11:18 AM CST What do you think of this??
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
pretzelman: Yes...I was really suprised upon reading this
i also think he tried to warn us of a military coup...professor
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Jan 23, 2009 11:50 AM CST What do you think of this??
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER


Interesting, coming from a General. And food for thought. wine
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Jan 23, 2009 1:06 PM CST What do you think of this??
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
I think he was trying to tell us how important it is to think before we fire weapons. He was telling us that war should only be a very last option????dunno
druidess6308: Interesting, coming from a General. And food for thought.
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Jan 23, 2009 1:09 PM CST What do you think of this??
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Hi Ship......cheers

Great quote..............And so true IMO

peace
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Jan 23, 2009 1:10 PM CST What do you think of this??
sassy49senior
sassy49seniorsassy49seniorItty Bitty, Nebraska USA274 Threads 4,632 Posts
pretzelman: I think he was trying to tell us how important it is to think before we fire weapons. He was telling us that war should only be a very last option????



Hi Pretzie, He has so many quotes that in some way
contradict that one. Also another one like that with
more attached to it about young children I think.dunno
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Jan 23, 2009 1:19 PM CST What do you think of this??
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER


I think of it much as I do this quote of him:

" Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society."

What a mensch! cheering love applause kiss heart beating
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Jan 23, 2009 1:24 PM CST What do you think of this??
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
pretzelman: I think he was trying to tell us how important it is to think before we fire weapons. He was telling us that war should only be a very last option????


That I totally agree with, Starlin. I've grown up shooting since I was a little girl, and raised that you only fire in defense. I've studied Martial Arts for years as well, and again, I was taught it's a last resort. If you can, you get out of the situation. I agree that this goes for war as well. If possible, work it out peacefully. War should always be a last resort.

wine
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Jan 23, 2009 1:29 PM CST What do you think of this??
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
druidess6308: That I totally agree with, Starlin. I've grown up shooting since I was a little girl, and raised that you only fire in defense. I've studied Martial Arts for years as well, and again, I was taught it's a last resort. If you can, you get out of the situation. I agree that this goes for war as well. If possible, work it out peacefully. War should always be a last resort.


The problem is that people have VERY different ideas about what constitutes "last resort." I remember being told as a child countless times, for example, that Vietnam was a necessary war to prevent a domino-effect collapse of the region into Communism...and lately, the Iraq invasion was called a "tragic necessity." (??!!)

I would call "last resort" the threat of an invasion; a "reasonable resort" would be the invasion of an ally.
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Jan 23, 2009 2:14 PM CST What do you think of this??
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Ambrose2007: The problem is that people have VERY different ideas about what constitutes "last resort." I remember being told as a child countless times, for example, that Vietnam was a necessary war to prevent a domino-effect collapse of the region into Communism...and lately, the Iraq invasion was called a "tragic necessity." (??!!)

I would call "last resort" the threat of an invasion; a "reasonable resort" would be the invasion of an ally.


I'll agree with you on that Ambrose, my friend. And I agree that we tend to poke our noses in where they don't belong with the result of losing a lot of good, young Americans for no good reason. I stand behind our soldiers for doing their job, but I don't always stand behind those who make the decisions to send our soldiers to war in foreign lands. wine
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Jan 23, 2009 5:00 PM CST What do you think of this??
catwomen64
catwomen64catwomen64somewhere, New Jersey USA15 Threads 1,628 Posts
pretzelman: Yes...I was really suprised upon reading this
wow me too!
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Jan 23, 2009 5:06 PM CST What do you think of this??
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
druidess6308: I'll agree with you on that Ambrose, my friend. And I agree that we tend to poke our noses in where they don't belong with the result of losing a lot of good, young Americans for no good reason. I stand behind our soldiers for doing their job, but I don't always stand behind those who make the decisions to send our soldiers to war in foreign lands.



I agree with this....but I have heard it said that it is not a very possible stance. Either you are for the soldiers or against




REPEAT......I agree with you, Dru!

I don't want to misconstrued as being disagreeablescold
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Jan 23, 2009 5:25 PM CST What do you think of this??
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
pretzelman: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" DWIGHT EISENHOWER


I whole-heartedly agree, PM. But why ohhh why does it take someone of notariety to get the message across? Its basic common sense and a understanding of compassion toward our fellow man, surely? So....??!! dunno I don't understand the difficulty.....

We all have within our power, and, yes, even the "little guy", to either inject a bit of happiness into someone's life or make someone miserable.....

Why would anyone CHOOSE the latter? confused And it is, indeed.... a CHOICE!!


Thanks for posting that, PM.... food for thought indeed!! thumbs up

teddybear
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