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Jan 31, 2009 12:11 PM CST War against Christian
Tater: what do you call school teaching evolution that not imposing a type of creationalism? that they want children to beleive
Evolution is an accepted Scientific Theory,while Creationism is not.
Now before you're telling me that it is only a Theory,let me tell you,that a Scientific Theory is out of the Hypothesis Stage,while Creationism has not even reached there.






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Jan 31, 2009 12:54 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Conrad73: Evolution is an accepted Scientific Theory,while Creationism is not.
Now before you're telling me that it is only a Theory,let me tell you,that a Scientific Theory is out of the Hypothesis Stage,while Creationism has not even reached there.http://www.fsteiger.com/theory.html



no I was saying that they teach something Christians don't beleive should be taught to their kids, but can't opt out of those type classes, because they are required to graduate.

Oh but evolution is now being looked at as being wrong, from a scientific stand point, so obviously the scientific hypothesises can be wrong..... cheers
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Jan 31, 2009 12:55 PM CST War against Christian
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Conrad73: Evolution is an accepted Scientific Theory,while Creationism is not.
Now before you're telling me that it is only a Theory,let me tell you,that a Scientific Theory is out of the Hypothesis Stage,while Creationism has not even reached there.http://www.fsteiger.com/theory.html



That's the point of differences. thumbs up
All school programs has to be based on a Siences.

Religious opinions and religions itselves IS NOT a Science. Otherwise it just confuses young minds.

Religion suppose to be personal, privet mental healer for some not everybody.

That's my point how i see it.


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Jan 31, 2009 12:56 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Konigsberg: That's the point of differences.
All school programs has to be based on a Siences.

Religious opinions and religions itselves IS NOT a Science. Otherwise it just confuses young minds.

Religion suppose to be personal, privet mental healer for some not everybody.

That's my point how i see it.


read the post above you hun..cheers
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Jan 31, 2009 12:59 PM CST War against Christian
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Tater: no I was saying that they teach something Christians don't beleive should be taught to their kids, but can't opt out of those type classes, because they are required to graduate.

Oh but evolution is now being looked at as being wrong, from a scientific stand point, so obviously the scientific hypothesises can be wrong.....


That's exactly. Good one. Sometimes Religious leaders reminds me American Goverment who is sticking its nose in something that is not their concern.

Isn't that's why Jiordano Bruno was burned? What a loss frustrated
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Jan 31, 2009 1:00 PM CST War against Christian
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: what do you call school teaching evolution that not imposing a type of creationalism? that they want children to beleive



I call it science...one the of the acceptable things to learn in school...if you want your children to know creationism too...then teach them...religion is a personal choice not a governmental and school choice...since when is it the government and schools responsibility to teach them what their parents should teach them...if it's religion parents want taught to their kids...that's the parents responsibility...the same with morals and everything else that they say is lacking because religion has been taken out of the classrooms...that's what Sunday school and churches are for...not classrooms...thumbs up
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Jan 31, 2009 1:00 PM CST War against Christian
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Tater: read the post above you hun..


yep I just did grin read my answer.

Sometimes we need to be a wee patient ... for a post to come up. conversing handshake
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Jan 31, 2009 1:06 PM CST War against Christian
BamaBoy74
BamaBoy74BamaBoy74Montevallo, Alabama USA2 Threads 80 Posts
In response to: Oh but evolution is now being looked at as being wrong, from a scientific stand point, so obviously the scientific hypothesises can be wrong.


What are you talking about?! What scientists are saying it's wrong?! Would those be Christian Scientists that are trying to prove Creationism?! Post a link or something. To to the original topic of the post, the separation of church and state most definitely adheres to public schools. There are kids of all religions and belief systems that are in public schools, so therefore, if you call for a moment of silence or prayer time, you are descriminating against others. I am not a Christian and I live in the South. I have to deal with people having issues with me almost daily. I don't have any issue with to not having kid's subjected to prostheletizing(sp?) by someone that is not of their faith.
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Jan 31, 2009 1:08 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I call it science...one the of the acceptable things to learn in school...if you want your children to know creationism too...then teach them...religion is a personal choice not a governmental and school choice...since when is it the government and schools responsibility to teach them what their parents should teach them...if it's religion parents want taught to their kids...that's the parents responsibility...the same with morals and everything else that they say is lacking because religion has been taken out of the classrooms...that's what Sunday school and churches are for...not classrooms...


hun you didn't anwser the question?????????

evolution is the basis of atheism, that is why they don't beleive in creationism, because they beleive we came from the "ape tree"laugh so it is still religously related..isn't it???/cheers
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Jan 31, 2009 1:12 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
BamaBoy74: What are you talking about?! What scientists are saying it's wrong?! Would those be Christian Scientists that are trying to prove Creationism?! Post a link or something. To to the original topic of the post, the separation of church and state most definitely adheres to public schools. There are kids of all religions and belief systems that are in public schools, so therefore, if you call for a moment of silence or prayer time, you are descriminating against others. I am not a Christian and I live in the South. I have to deal with people having issues with me almost daily. I don't have any issue with to not having kid's subjected to prostheletizing(sp?) by someone that is not of their faith.


muslims in many schools can take time out from their class room and go out in the hall with a rug and pray, when Conservetives tried to block it, they were ignored and said to be disriminating?? They are allow to wear their hats and clothings are they not, even when the other school kids have a dress code to follow...
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Jan 31, 2009 1:14 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Tater: muslims in many schools can take time out from their class room and go out in the hall with a rug and pray, when Conservetives tried to block it, they were ignored and said to be disriminating?? They are allow to wear their hats and clothings are they not, even when the other school kids have a dress code to follow...


there is only this double standard when it comes to Christianity...cheers
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Jan 31, 2009 1:14 PM CST War against Christian
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: hun you didn't anwser the question?????????

evolution is the basis of atheism, that is why they don't beleive in creationism, because they beleive we came from the "ape tree" so it is still religously related..isn't it???/



No it isn't...atheism is not a religion...and that doesn't make evolution any less scientific even and it's only taught as a theory...as I said...science is an acceptable subject to be taught in the school system....also it's the athiests choice not to teach their kids creationism...Just as it is the christian parents choice to teach it to their kids....there needs to be some personal and parental responsibility taken in all this and that means...because religion is a personal choice...it's up to the parents to teach it to their children and everything that comes with it...it's time to stop placing the responsibility where it doesn't belong and place it back where it does belong....thumbs up
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Jan 31, 2009 1:15 PM CST War against Christian
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: No it isn't...atheism is not a religion...and that doesn't make evolution any less scientific even and it's only taught as a theory...as I said...science is an acceptable subject to be taught in the school system....also it's the athiests choice not to teach their kids creationism...Just as it is the christian parents choice to teach it to their kids....there needs to be some personal and parental responsibility taken in all this and that means...because religion is a personal choice...it's up to the parents to teach it to their children and everything that comes with it...it's time to stop placing the responsibility where it doesn't belong and place it back where it does belong....



* even if...roll eyes
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Jan 31, 2009 1:15 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Well my daugter is back home now... but I'll type back in this thread on the next day her mom has her... back to the others threads for now...cheers Have a great day ya'll..
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Jan 31, 2009 1:17 PM CST War against Christian
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: Well my daugter is back home now... but I'll type back in this thread on the next day her mom has her... back to the others threads for now... Have a great day ya'll..



You too....wave wink hug kiss hug heart beating
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Jan 31, 2009 1:17 PM CST War against Christian
BamaBoy74
BamaBoy74BamaBoy74Montevallo, Alabama USA2 Threads 80 Posts
Tater: muslims in many schools can take time out from their class room and go out in the hall with a rug and pray, when Conservetives tried to block it, they were ignored and said to be disriminating?? They are allow to wear their hats and clothings are they not, even when the other school kids have a dress code to follow...


That's because of the 'War' that we are involved in right now. I don't agree with that either. However, the US has to try to make the country not look like we're descriminating against Muslims. I don't agree with that at all, but it is what it is at the moment.
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Jan 31, 2009 1:18 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: No it isn't...atheism is not a religion...and that doesn't make evolution any less scientific even and it's only taught as a theory...as I said...science is an acceptable subject to be taught in the school system....also it's the athiests choice not to teach their kids creationism...Just as it is the christian parents choice to teach it to their kids....there needs to be some personal and parental responsibility taken in all this and that means...because religion is a personal choice...it's up to the parents to teach it to their children and everything that comes with it...it's time to stop placing the responsibility where it doesn't belong and place it back where it does belong....



atheist consider atheism to be a religion where they want religous rights, but then when it comes to things like this, then they claim it isn't a religion (remember religion is a beleif system)cheers
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Jan 31, 2009 1:19 PM CST War against Christian
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
BamaBoy74: That's because of the 'War' that we are involved in right now. I don't agree with that either. However, the US has to try to make the country not look like we're descriminating against Muslims. I don't agree with that at all, but it is what it is at the moment.


Have a good man... I'm off the thread for now..cheers
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Jan 31, 2009 1:25 PM CST War against Christian
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Tater: atheist consider atheism to be a religion where they want religous rights, but then when it comes to things like this, then they claim it isn't a religion (remember religion is a beleif system)



It doesn't matter evolution was not developed by or for athiests...it's a scientific theory in it's own right...the fact that athiests have chosen to adopt the theory as their way to explain away creationism...doesn't have anything to do with this fact...and that all forms of science are acceptable subjects to be taught in schools as part of the learning process...leading to further education...So while you may see it as having something to do with religion..the fact is..it does not...it is purely scientific....thumbs up
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Jan 31, 2009 2:20 PM CST War against Christian
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Tater: atheist consider atheism to be a religion where they want religous rights, but then when it comes to things like this, then they claim it isn't a religion (remember religion is a beleif system)


where did you get that one from - we dont confused
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