Unconditional Love, Yes or No (132)
online today!online today!Conrad73Zurich, Switzerland204 Threads 6 Polls 59,471 PostsConrad73: Aha! You know what Eddie Albert told Robert Wagner in "SWITCH" about similar things;"You're gonna hurt yourself one of these Days!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_
(TV_series)
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Scubadiva: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
No such thing in my vocabulary, If she cheats.. she is gone.
But there are also other deal breakers.
But I will say it like this.. If I find a woman that can and will love and respect me as I will her.. then it can last forever!!
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In response to: Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
I do not think love dies for simple things like the actions of your partner. They could hurt you, make you feel anger or even hate, but basically that would still be out of love.
Too many proofs of, first of all women, that walks through fire for their men, men we would never touch with a stick for what they done.
Time and your own mindset on the other hand - if that change, then I guess we could re-evaluate our love and degrade it to perhaps a fling in the past.
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Conrad73: Aha! You know what Eddie Albert told Robert Wagner in "SWITCH" about similar things;"You're gonna hurt yourself one of these Days!"
What do you mean, "one of these days"...
Ever hear the term "rode hard and put away wet"??
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In response to: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
I don't believe in unconditional love anymore as it has always been one sided with me. The only unconditional love I'll ever have anymore is for my kid and my mom.
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Thanks everyone for the responses. There's definitely some food for thought here. You're such a smart lot ;-D
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gypsykisses: I don't believe in unconditional love anymore as it has always been one sided with me. The only unconditional love I'll ever have anymore is for my kid and my mom.
Erh... Is it not always one sided? "unconditional"
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I guess I'm on both sides of the fence. It's hard to define in words, much easier to define in the heart.
Loving unconditionally to me means that you love someone just the way they are, personality wise, physically, disabilities, etc. You don't ask them to change things about themselves to fit what "you" want. Lose weight, gain weight, stop swearing, don't be a slob, etc. You let them be "who they are" and accept them just as they are. If you cannot, move on.
I don't equate unconditional love to the other scenarios that have been brought up such as killing someone, or if someone abuses you, physically or verbally. That goes without saying. Such actions are not acceptable and should never be tolerated. That is not love.
Didn't do a very good job with explaining it, check Barren's post; he put it very well.
Loving unconditionally to me means that you love someone just the way they are, personality wise, physically, disabilities, etc. You don't ask them to change things about themselves to fit what "you" want. Lose weight, gain weight, stop swearing, don't be a slob, etc. You let them be "who they are" and accept them just as they are. If you cannot, move on.
I don't equate unconditional love to the other scenarios that have been brought up such as killing someone, or if someone abuses you, physically or verbally. That goes without saying. Such actions are not acceptable and should never be tolerated. That is not love.
Didn't do a very good job with explaining it, check Barren's post; he put it very well.
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mike69spain: Erh... Is it not always one sided? "unconditional"
Unconditional would mean without conditions. I have yet to meet anyone that gave me unconditional love in return. If you have met someone then I applaud you. I think that maybe women are more than willing to love unconditionally than men are. Easily deduced by how many battered women are out there as opposed to battered men. They stand by their men-out of love-not all of them, mind you, but a good portion.
If it was a two way street - divorce rates would be lower and there would be less single people. jmo
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Hugz_n_Kissez: I would rather be hated for who I am...than loved for who I am not....
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druidess6308: I totally agree, Hugz, having been loved for who I am not...it's not a pleasant place to be.
Noooooo it isn't...because it takes someone special to see who you really are that's why.....
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mike69spain: Erh... Is it not always one sided? "unconditional"
what you just said finally rushed to my brain. Of course it is one sided. It takes two to tango baby
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Love comes from the Spirit.
Conditions come from the world.
Conditions come from the world.
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Unconditional love doesn´t really exist in my opinion. Of course, as others have said, this doesn´t apply to situations where a person changes through ill health or an accident, love will certainly be tested, but shouldn´t die if it´s the real thing.
However, we all have, albeit, unsaid conditions, and that is why relationships break up.
However, we all have, albeit, unsaid conditions, and that is why relationships break up.
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Dusty45: Love comes from the Spirit.
Conditions come from the world.
Conditions come from the world.
If another woman breaks 3 of my ribs again, it may break my spirit..
Temporarily...
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Jan1305: Unconditional love doesn´t really exist in my opinion. Of course, as others have said, this doesn´t apply to situations where a person changes through ill health or an accident, love will certainly be tested, but shouldn´t die if it´s the real thing.
However, we all have, albeit, unsaid conditions, and that is why relationships break up.
However, we all have, albeit, unsaid conditions, and that is why relationships break up.
Have your people contact my people with you "conditions"..
My people will let your people know if they can be met..
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HJFinAZ: Have your people contact my people with you "conditions"..
My people will let your people know if they can be met..
My people will let your people know if they can be met..
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gypsykisses: what you just said finally rushed to my brain. Of course it is one sided. It takes two to tango baby
It was funny to read the repeat of my post in your words though
And - thanks for the applause - I have...
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Dusty45: Love comes from the Spirit.
Conditions come from the world.
Conditions come from the world.
"Unconditional Love" equals "Spirit out of this World"
There is only one reply to that - Cool...
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Jan1305: Ok, lets make this professional.
Exactly!!
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