So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
Scubadiva: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
Unconditional Love is the only Love that will last all tests of time. The catch is that both individuals must give unconditionally not only to their respective partners but to life on the whole.
“And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:” Hebrews 10:24 “Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.” I John 4:7-8 “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth not is made perfect in love.” I John 4:18
BarrenPneuma: Unconditional Love is the only Love that will last all tests of time. The catch is that both individuals must give unconditionally not only to their respective partners but to life on the whole.
“And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:” Hebrews 10:24 “Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.” I John 4:7-8 “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth not is made perfect in love.” I John 4:18
Aw yes! Leave it to Mark to put it in the best words possible! Thank you brother!
petalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland3,101 posts
I think that every emotionally healthy person wants to love and to be loved. We want people to love us as we are. We want to feel accepted no matter what we may say or do. When we make a mistake, we want to be forgiven. We want to be loved unconditionally.
Problems arise when we do not return that same unconditional love. There will never be genuine love expressed between two people if both parties are constantly seeking to have their needs met. How can two people make a relationship work if both define love as, “if you love me then you will do what I want”?
Scubadiva: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
To me, conditional love is "I'll love you if you...", or "I won't love you if you don't...", so under that definition, I believe in unconditional love, for it should not have those. Love just is, or it isn't. One doesn't put conditions on it.
However, by your definition, Scuba, I would say I agree with love being somewhat conditional. No, if my partner murdered someone without good reason, then I would say that he wasn't the person I thought he was, and thereby I no longer love him because I couldn't love someone who did that. If he murdered someone because it was to save his own or another life, then that would be the same person I knew and loved, and I would still love him, and stand beside him through the ordeal we would face (for yes, if you kill in self-defense, you still get investigated, and might stand trial).
Scubadiva: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
Quite a number of replies talk about one condition or another, however large or small, and not surprisingly, for unconditional love is rather rare in humans cos of our expectations. Unconditional love in loving unconditionally...Period... no matter what there is always forgiveness and the joy of seeing one's love.
Perhaps the closets we get to experience unconditional love is that recieved from a pet dog who is always overjoyed and eager to see you no matter what.
Scubadiva: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
You're right, C - it is nonsense, literally understood.
However, I think what people generally mean by it is a far less literal (i.e., accurate!) interpretation - namely, that people's love for someone should be *resistant* to change by events. That is, unconditional love be relatively "event-insensitive." For example, you wouldn't stop loving someone because they started dressing poorly or lost a limb in an accident or breasts to cancer, just as you wouldn't stop loving your child if they behaved like a brat or developed personality problems or even committed a crime.
I think unconditional love is something that peotd and dreamers have conjured up. NOTHING is un conditional. Yes, it sounds good, but in reality...it fails when put to the test.
The question speaks for itself. CONDITIONAL love is not love at all, but more a "business deal", while UNCONDITIONAL love you have no control over. It is implicit in friendship, and NO matter what such a friend does, there is NO POSSIBILITY of "losing" (or "wanting to lose") the love between you. And as unconditional love between two people requires many years to manifest (unlike conditional love), it is never a question of whether the two people are both sharing the same experience. The "other person" will always be the catalyst and you, the experiencer. Your question is really based on not being able to distinguish between conditional love which is not love at all and unconditional love which quite clearly is hardly ever experienced by most people...
In response to: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
HealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
pretzelman: I think unconditional love is something that peotd and dreamers have conjured up. NOTHING is un conditional. Yes, it sounds good, but in reality...it fails when put to the test.
pretzelman: I think unconditional love is something that peotd and dreamers have conjured up. NOTHING is un conditional. Yes, it sounds good, but in reality...it fails when put to the test.
Scubadiva: So what does it mean to love someone unconditionally?
I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?
petalbabe: I think that every emotionally healthy person wants to love and to be loved. We want people to love us as we are. We want to feel accepted no matter what we may say or do. When we make a mistake, we want to be forgiven. We want to be loved unconditionally.
Problems arise when we do not return that same unconditional love. There will never be genuine love expressed between two people if both parties are constantly seeking to have their needs met. How can two people make a relationship work if both define love as, “if you love me then you will do what I want”?
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I read and hear it all the time that love should be unconditional and I think it's nonsense. Rather the opposite should be the case. Love should be conditional. For instance, it should be conditional on the way a person treats you; it should be conditional on the way a person treats others; conditional on the respect that you get from this person and so on.
If your partner committed a violent crime against another or against a child or an old person, could you still sit back and say with a clear conscience that you love your partner and everything that he/she is and stands for?
Which side of the fence are you on? The conditional or the unconditional?