jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
54xmax: Actually the definition of what Terrorist act is, and what has happened in Norway - - - one can say it was a Christian Fundamentalist Terrorist Act - - - Terrorist act in it self has nothing to do with religion, it is an act of aggression it refers to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or ideological goal, and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).
So there you have it Muslims or Communist brigades of 60's and 70's or IRA or any other group don't own the "title" - - - - Christians can own it too
Does thet include emotional violence?
In which case, I propose that organised religion is an act of terrorism.
(Golly, was I not displaying enough fear of god there? )
Kaybee50: Protection is not retaliation. Going after the perpetrators and attempting to stop them and their support systems from future acts, is reactionary, yes. Emotional, yes. Being proactive makes the most sense to me. I want desperately to keep my nieces and nephews and friends safe. I want your family and future generations to be safe. It is an emotional reaction to cowards and the senseless loss of lives.
patmac: For a man who was too tired too post the "TRUTH" you sure are doing a lot of posting.....Care to enlighten folk with this great document????
Hahaha..you do have humour after all..Aaahh well,scrap on the surface..Patmac,yes,i got stuck here,but I´ll return with some cool news from the molecular science...soon...Stay tuned.....
In which case, I propose that organised religion is an act of terrorism.
(Golly, was I not displaying enough fear of god there? )
Good point And I actually can agree with you on this one - - - cos organized religion is about invoking terror if one does not comply with their BS - - sorry "Enlightened Dogmatic Teachings, of We ARE right and everybody else is wrong"
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Wow_Factor: Our original poster's very first post on CS forums was support for Islamic jihadists so he is a fine one to talk about his assumption that "Christian terrorism is rising." That is the method for him to defer attention away from the horrors of radical Islamic terrorism. Whether the Oslo bomber was Christian or not is not important. He had a grudge against his country's government and in his sick mind that was a way of paying back.
OP just because there are many non-believers on CS that does not mean you can start an inflammatory poll like this without anyone challenging you.
Wow_Factor: Sorry I don't click on some links. This mass murderer was a one-off and did not represent the Christian religion. That he has Christian as his religion is neither here nor there. He had a grudge against his Government. Please don't tarnish Christians with terrorism.
Perhaps there are one, or two followers of Islam who would prefer not to be tarnished with terrorism. A bit tricksie given the propaganda machine we have working away in the West.
AtwoZ: Hahaha..you do have humour after all..Aaahh well,scrap on the surface..Patmac,yes,i got stuck here,but I´ll return with some cool news from the molecular science...soon...Stay tuned.....
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
54xmax: Good point And I actually can agree with you on this one - - - cos organized religion is about invoking terror if one does not comply with their BS - - sorry "Enlightened Dogmatic Teachings, of We ARE right and everybody else is wrong"
So tell us Atwoz, what is your idea of a "better world" A straight answer please , no fudging the question
Miss Daze,a long answer or a short one?
Ok,just a sliece of the pie..."Better world",-in other words,a better society,free from anger,hatred,violence,drugs,crime,vandalism,apathy,rapes,social decay,intellectual decline,TBC,AIDS,gun/drug/human trafficking,declining welfare,declining school results,enclaves,fear,social turmoil,national debt,mass unemployment,frustration....aso....aso....
AtwoZ: Hahaha..you do have humour after all..Aaahh well,scrap on the surface..Patmac,yes,i got stuck here,but I´ll return with some cool news from the molecular science...soon...Stay tuned.....
Like I said.....No document, No Truth....And total rubbish.....
Keep searching and try finding a source that is not so right wing......See what happens when you believe all that crap.....Fundamentalists and extremists and folk who spout hate toward their fellow man are the real terrorists of today....Right wing,Left wing,Islamic,Rednecks, Survivealists and the list goes on and on and on....Tolerance of each other is the key....But sadly too many folk are the wrong colour for you Atwoz......Sad just Sad...
Safety is an illusion, everyone who drives a car, invest, love, should know. Life is like that.
Since one can never know completely what another human is thinking, how can one be proactive? I guess one could, but would not that mean cameras and microphones on every corner, roadblocks every 300 meters, complete digital surveillance (not only the data retention), and formal applications to walk outside the home-work-home area?
This IS a blow to democracy, a blow to liberty, to privacy, to the right of being anonymous ... sadly.
patmac: Like I said.....No document, No Truth....And total rubbish..... Keep searching and try finding a source that is not so right wing......See what happens when you believe all that crap.....Fundamentalists and extremists and folk who spout hate toward their fellow man are the real terrorists of today....Right wing,Left wing,Islamic,Rednecks, Survivealists and the list goes on and on and on....Tolerance of each other is the key....But sadly too many folk are the wrong colour for you Atwoz......Sad just Sad...
Gasp..yes...whatever...But to be honest Patmac,it takes me time to translate it,that´s the reason,and hrs getting late...But just wait and see,you´ll love it,like you love my threads....
steveurfriend: Yes the Oslo terrorist bought 6 tons of fertilizer to blow up the government buildings and if some one has seen his facebook page.. the truth reveals ..
Wrong.. he had bought 6 tons of fertilizer, but only used some of it, 700 kg orso... I wonder what he did with the rest, that was not found on the farm he's renting...
Ok,just a sliece of the pie..."Better world",-in other words,a better society,free from anger,hatred,violence,drugs,crime,vandalism,apathy,rapes,social decay,intellectual decline,TBC,AIDS,gun/drug/human trafficking,declining welfare,declining school results,enclaves,fear,social turmoil,national debt,mass unemployment,frustration....aso....aso....
You have just named all the things that you DON'T want in this "better world". A very easy thing to say, of course nobody wants all these things. But how would you go about creating this world? And are all law abiding people welcome in this world of yours? Are there certain groups that you would exclude from it?
patmac: Like I said.....No document, No Truth....And total rubbish..... Keep searching and try finding a source that is not so right wing......See what happens when you believe all that crap.....
Fundamentalists and extremists and folk who spout hate toward their fellow man are the real terrorists of today....Right wing,Left wing,Islamic,Rednecks, Survivealists and the list goes on and on and on....Tolerance of each other is the key....But sadly too many folk are the wrong colour for you Atwoz......Sad just Sad...
olaix: Safety is an illusion, everyone who drives a car, invest, love, should know. Life is like that.
Since one can never know completely what another human is thinking, how can one be proactive? I guess one could, but would not that mean cameras and microphones on every corner, roadblocks every 300 meters, complete digital surveillance (not only the data retention), and formal applications to walk outside the home-work-home area?
This IS a blow to democracy, a blow to liberty, to privacy, to the right of being anonymous ... sadly.
Sunnydaze14: You have just named all the things that you DON'T want in this "better world". A very easy thing to say, of course nobody wants all these things. But how would you go about creating this world? And are all law abiding people welcome in this world of yours? Are there certain groups that you would exclude from it?
Sunnydaze14: You have just named all the things that you DON'T want in this "better world". A very easy thing to say, of course nobody wants all these things. But how would you go about creating this world? And are all law abiding people welcome in this world of yours? Are there certain groups that you would exclude from it?
2 leading questions....Yes,quite many,aren´t "welcomed"onto my world,-not because of ethnicity,but out of sheer economic reasons...That´s all...
ActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA2,089 posts
patmac: Like I said.....No document, No Truth....And total rubbish..... Keep searching and try finding a source that is not so right wing......See what happens when you believe all that crap.....Fundamentalists and extremists and folk who spout hate toward their fellow man are the real terrorists of today....Right wing,Left wing,Islamic,Rednecks, Survivealists and the list goes on and on and on....Tolerance of each other is the key....But sadly too many folk are the wrong colour for you Atwoz......Sad just Sad...
AtwoZ: 2 leading questions....Yes,quite many,aren´t "welcomed"onto my world,-not because of ethnicity,but out of sheer economic reasons...That´s all...
And of course,cultural reasons...
Can you elaborate on the "cultural reasons" please?
grizzwald: Just pointing out that ALL religions have finatics ...sorry if you took offence ...was not my intentionhowever the fact remains that there are indeed Christian Terrorist..
The term characterized farmers having a red neck caused by sunburn from hours working in the fields. A citation from 1893 provides a definition as "poorer inhabitants of the rural districts...men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks".
By 1900, "rednecks" was in common use to designate the political coalitions (Democratic Party) of the poor white farmers in the South. The same group was also often called the "wool hat boys" (for they opposed the rich men, who wore expensive silk hats). A newspaper notice in Mississippi in August 1891 called on rednecks to rally at the polls at the upcoming primary election:
AtwoZ: 2 leading questions....Yes,quite many,aren´t "welcomed"onto my world,-not because of ethnicity,but out of sheer economic reasons...That´s all...
And of course,cultural reasons...
But you as you have already admitted are free to travel and emigrate for the same economic reasons...............H Y P O C R I T E .....
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For a man who was too tired too post the "TRUTH" you sure are doing a lot of posting.....Care to enlighten folk with this great document????