Should illegal immigrants be issued drivers licenses? (165)
lovedailylove: A rhetoric statement does not need response.
If this is the first logical conclusion I've managed so far, then you have not been reading what I have written to you. Take care.
If this is the first logical conclusion I've managed so far, then you have not been reading what I have written to you. Take care.
No, I've read your posts.
lovedailylove: If never going to die is a good trick, why don't you trick yourself after you die, old woman?
It seems that you know more about me than I know about myself. Obviously you are an illogical woman. No wonder you are divorced. Just because you said, "The rest of your post is just the rant of an angry little man...", you cannot make me angry. First, you have to be angry yourself. Please let me know when you are not angry. When it comes to little man, I see that you being 5'1" is bigger than me. However, upon looking at your profile, looking at your pictures, I say that you are truly bigger than me considering your weight and waist size.
Yes, all illegal immigrants break laws. I never said all. Don't put words to my mouth, old woman.
Just because you wrote, "Bitter much", you cannot make me bitter much. You already made yourself bitter much by writing so yourself. You cannot prevent me from having a very happy life.
It is wonderful to meet an illogical old woman like you. Please take care.
It seems that you know more about me than I know about myself. Obviously you are an illogical woman. No wonder you are divorced. Just because you said, "The rest of your post is just the rant of an angry little man...", you cannot make me angry. First, you have to be angry yourself. Please let me know when you are not angry. When it comes to little man, I see that you being 5'1" is bigger than me. However, upon looking at your profile, looking at your pictures, I say that you are truly bigger than me considering your weight and waist size.
Yes, all illegal immigrants break laws. I never said all. Don't put words to my mouth, old woman.
Just because you wrote, "Bitter much", you cannot make me bitter much. You already made yourself bitter much by writing so yourself. You cannot prevent me from having a very happy life.
It is wonderful to meet an illogical old woman like you. Please take care.
You are out of line.....we do not call each other names. If you disagree with someone you can do that in a polite manner.
I understand your attitude after reading your profile.
Please be a gentleman and refrain from your ranting against other members. This thread has many disagreements and all of them were posted in a polite manner.
Dadude62: Children can never be the reason to be illegal immigrants. If children is the excuse to be illegal immigrants, why should people stop driving at red light (i.e. obey traffic law) when illegal immigrants do not have to obey the laws?
You wrote, "...ESPECIALLY because they are not wanted by folks like you.", but since when did I not want them in the U.S.? It seems that you are also an illogical man. Since when am I a logical man? Take care.
Just because illegal immigrants broke a law to come here out of desperation does not make us desperate enough to start breaking laws. And there would be no logical justification for using that as an excuse to start breaking laws. There is logical justification for illegals to have broken the immigration law, no jobs, starvation, kids suffering,,,
Since you are a judge of who is "logical", you must be "logical man",,,
You wrote, "...ESPECIALLY because they are not wanted by folks like you.", but since when did I not want them in the U.S.? It seems that you are also an illogical man. Since when am I a logical man? Take care.
Just because illegal immigrants broke a law to come here out of desperation does not make us desperate enough to start breaking laws. And there would be no logical justification for using that as an excuse to start breaking laws. There is logical justification for illegals to have broken the immigration law, no jobs, starvation, kids suffering,,,
Since you are a judge of who is "logical", you must be "logical man",,,
When illegal immigrants can break laws, those who are not illegal immigrants can also break laws. No jobs, starvation, kids suffering, etc. are never any logical justification to be illegals. No jobs, starvation, kids suffering, etc. are just excuses to be illegals.
The reason that I said people are illogical simply because people seem to know more about me than I know about myself. You yourself know that it is illogical for others to know more about me than I know about myself. Since when am I judge of who is "logical"? Take care.
Dadude62: What choices do these people, living under conditions of poverty, have ?
Which people are you referring to?
Why am I getting such a strong sense of deja vu?
lovedailylove: That is a very good question. However, because this is a forum about illegal immigrants, I am being excuse from answering your foolish question. I do not think I need to ask you the same question. Take care.
no, you don’t... you have proved how irrational you are; however, as this is a virtual world, you can hide behind a profile, and perform personals attacks on every response given. Finally, I understand YOU ARE RIGHT !! Period !!
Either you suffer from some dementia, which I might understand, or my first assumption is correct.
I am out of this nonsense.. and take care of those tablets!!
PS: By the way, You are not American; You have American citizenship.
montemonte: When I renew my drivers license I have to show proof of my identity in several ways.
There was a time when we could mail in our request to renew our drivers license but ever since Sept. 11th a Six Point Renewal Program was instituted.
The Six Point system covers various forms of your identity: birth certificate, passport, marriage license, and some others that I can't remember.
Does anyone think that an illegal alien would be able to provide all the forms of identity? I doubt they would even try because that would set off suspicion for the Motor Vehicle Agency to check further on who that person is.
There was a time when we could mail in our request to renew our drivers license but ever since Sept. 11th a Six Point Renewal Program was instituted.
The Six Point system covers various forms of your identity: birth certificate, passport, marriage license, and some others that I can't remember.
Does anyone think that an illegal alien would be able to provide all the forms of identity? I doubt they would even try because that would set off suspicion for the Motor Vehicle Agency to check further on who that person is.
All day long, And yes, there was a big protest up in Hillsboro when the law changed that you had to bring in a social security card and Birth certificate to get the Drivers license. Forgery of ID and fake tax ID is big business for the illegals to work in many places. They don't just "try" they do succeed. And they will continue to persevere and who knows, eventually the whole tides may be turned. Why? because we said go ahead and break those laws, we won't even enforce them.
So then the minority,,,what was once, becomes the majority. It's happening more all the time.
Glatlol: Ah now you are just a funny little man with a chip on his shoulder. Yep I am probably bigger than you and far more woman than you could handle in any way.
Am off now sure you cant even put together a decent argument, rather you try insult people. Do you really think the rantings of a little man behind a computer screen is going to bother me??
Am off now sure you cant even put together a decent argument, rather you try insult people. Do you really think the rantings of a little man behind a computer screen is going to bother me??
What is so funny about what I have written? Where is the chip on my shoulder?
Because you are bigger, that means you are way much more slower in your movement. Why would I want to handle an old angry woman like you? There are many other woman who are bigger than you that are far more womanly than you that I have handle in many ways simply because they are never angry (i.e. anger is your specialty).
Are you able to read my response? Who needs to argue? Why would I want to put together a decent argument? You have the love for to argue? Is that why you are divorced? Just because you wrote, "...rather you try insult people." What did I insult? You lie a lot that you can no longer tell the truth (i.e. dishonesty is part of you). No wonder you are divorced.
Am I suppose to rant? Because I did not rant, you must have been confuse and did not realize that you are the one who is ranting, you big old woman.
No, there is no computer screen in front of me. Would you care to buy me a computer screen so that I can be behind that new computer screen that you will buy for me?
I have never interested in bothering you, but, on the contrary, you are bothering me by making useless ranting. Hopefully you can bother yourself in your next comment.
Why don't you take all the illegal immigrants from the U.S. to Ireland and make them happy? Take care.
lovedailylove: What is so funny about what I have written? Where is the chip on my shoulder?
Because you are bigger, that means you are way much more slower in your movement. Why would I want to handle an old angry woman like you? There are many other woman who are bigger than you that are far more womanly than you that I have handle in many ways simply because they are never angry (i.e. anger is your specialty).
Are you able to read my response? Who needs to argue? Why would I want to put together a decent argument? You have the love for to argue? Is that why you are divorced? Just because you wrote, "...rather you try insult people." What did I insult? You lie a lot that you can no longer tell the truth (i.e. dishonesty is part of you). No wonder you are divorced.
Am I suppose to rant? Because I did not rant, you must have been confuse and did not realize that you are the one who is ranting, you big old woman.
No, there is no computer screen in front of me. Would you care to buy me a computer screen so that I can be behind that new computer screen that you will buy for me?
I have never interested in bothering you, but, on the contrary, you are bothering me by making useless ranting. Hopefully you can bother yourself in your next comment.
Why don't you take all the illegal immigrants from the U.S. to Ireland and make them happy? Take care.
Because you are bigger, that means you are way much more slower in your movement. Why would I want to handle an old angry woman like you? There are many other woman who are bigger than you that are far more womanly than you that I have handle in many ways simply because they are never angry (i.e. anger is your specialty).
Are you able to read my response? Who needs to argue? Why would I want to put together a decent argument? You have the love for to argue? Is that why you are divorced? Just because you wrote, "...rather you try insult people." What did I insult? You lie a lot that you can no longer tell the truth (i.e. dishonesty is part of you). No wonder you are divorced.
Am I suppose to rant? Because I did not rant, you must have been confuse and did not realize that you are the one who is ranting, you big old woman.
No, there is no computer screen in front of me. Would you care to buy me a computer screen so that I can be behind that new computer screen that you will buy for me?
I have never interested in bothering you, but, on the contrary, you are bothering me by making useless ranting. Hopefully you can bother yourself in your next comment.
Why don't you take all the illegal immigrants from the U.S. to Ireland and make them happy? Take care.
Oh thank you, this place hasnt been so amusing in a long time
jac379: No, I've read your posts.
If you truly have read my posts, why the wrong conclusion? If my previous post was the first logical conclusion, then you have deceived yourself to think that you have read my posts. Take care.
montemonte: You are out of line.....we do not call each other names. If you disagree with someone you can do that in a polite manner.
I understand your attitude after reading your profile.
Please be a gentleman and refrain from your ranting against other members. This thread has many disagreements and all of them were posted in a polite manner.
I understand your attitude after reading your profile.
Please be a gentleman and refrain from your ranting against other members. This thread has many disagreements and all of them were posted in a polite manner.
No, I have never been out of line. Do not false accuse me. I have never call anyone names. I am speaking of the reality, so there is no name calling. I have always been polite, so do not false accuse me for saying that I am not being polite.
You can read my profile, but you still no not understand me. What is my attitude?
I am a gentleman and will always be a gentleman. What did I rant? You wrote, "...all of them were posted in a polite manner." If what you claimed is true, then why do people think they know more about me than I know about myself? What is polite about that? Take care.
Bogart_1960: no, you don’t... you have proved how irrational you are; however, as this is a virtual world, you can hide behind a profile, and perform personals attacks on every response given. Finally, I understand YOU ARE RIGHT !! Period !!
Either you suffer from some dementia, which I might understand, or my first assumption is correct.
I am out of this nonsense.. and take care of those tablets!!
PS: By the way, You are not American; You have American citizenship.
Either you suffer from some dementia, which I might understand, or my first assumption is correct.
I am out of this nonsense.. and take care of those tablets!!
PS: By the way, You are not American; You have American citizenship.
Just because you said, "...how irrational you are...", you cannot make me irrational.
I am living in reality, so there is no need to hide at all. What did I attack? You are the one who attack. False accuse me simply prove that you are dishonest.
When did I suffer from dementia? All your assumptions are incorrect because they are all assumptions.
You make the nonsense yourself, it is good to get out of the nonsense yourself. What tablets? Why would a man who is not caring say, "...take care of those tablets!!"?
Since when did I claim to be American? I have never even said that I am American citizenship. Why make false statement? Take care.
Maus19: I know...
D'ya think they'll let me be Irish, too?
lovedailylove: No, I have never been out of line. Do not false accuse me. I have never call anyone names. I am speaking of the reality, so there is no name calling. I have always been polite, so do not false accuse me for saying that I am not being polite.
You can read my profile, but you still no not understand me. What is my attitude?
I am a gentleman and will always be a gentleman. What did I rant? You wrote, "...all of them were posted in a polite manner." If what you claimed is true, then why do people think they know more about me than I know about myself? What is polite about that? Take care.
You can read my profile, but you still no not understand me. What is my attitude?
I am a gentleman and will always be a gentleman. What did I rant? You wrote, "...all of them were posted in a polite manner." If what you claimed is true, then why do people think they know more about me than I know about myself? What is polite about that? Take care.
In post 136 you called Glaitol a "big old woman". You also made a comment about "no wonder she is divorced".
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
montemonte: In post 136 you called Glaitol a "big old woman". You also made a comment about "no wonder she is divorced".
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
Psychologist has now appeared
Glatlol: Oh thank you, this place hasnt been so amusing in a long time
I am glad that you find this place has been so amusing. Take care.
montemonte: In post 136 you called Glaitol a "big old woman". You also made a comment about "no wonder she is divorced".
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
I have never name called Glaitol. Can you differentiate (without bias) the difference between describing someone versus name calling? Her attitude indeed reflects of her divorcement.
Since when is this a therapy session? People who do not understand God can never understand human being; for God created human being. If psychologists want to understand human being, first study theology.
You wrote, "I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself." Please note of your use of the words "I don't think...". This tells me that you are not sure of your own claim. You know well that they did claim to know more about me than I know about myself. In other words, you are being dishonest to me. Well, you know you are being dishonest in your first comment to me because you want me to be polite when you knew that I have always been polite. Can you ask a polite man like me to be polite? Why don't you ask others who are not polite to me to be polite to me?
Nothing can make me tick, but I know that it is not polite to not response to people who take the time to response to my comment. Because you made false accusation that I am ranting when I am just replying, then I am not surprise when you wrote, "...what makes you tick". You definitely wrote your comment without thinking and without thinking of all the negative consequences. Because there is no way of knowing your true age (since you know that you are dishonest and made false accusations to me), if you are older than me, I suggest that you grow up. You, like all others who have commented on my view on the topic of illegal immigrants, claim to know more about me than I know about myself. You never knew whether anything can make me tick, but you think you are god and able to make assumption and wrote, "...what makes you tick".
If people do not agree or dislike my view on illegal immigrants, they can keep it to themselves or response to my comment politely. I never replied to others' views on illegal immigrants out of respect for them all. Since the first time I wrote my comment, bulk majority people did not write polite comment. Now going back to Glaitol, Glaitol end her comment by writing, "Bitter much". Is that polite?
Why ask a man like me to not call people names when I have never call people names? If people do not agree with my view on illegal immigrants and keep it to themselves or replied politely to my view on illegal immigrants, you do not even have to false accused me of name calling. Thus, if you are a responsible mature adult woman, please tell all the others to keep their opinion to themselves or write a polite response to me. Can you do that? Take care.
No just a boat out of the country.
lalasierra: Any thoughts/opinions?
lovedailylove: I have never name called Glaitol. Can you differentiate (without bias) the difference between describing someone versus name calling? Her attitude indeed reflects of her divorcement.
Since when is this a therapy session? People who do not understand God can never understand human being; for God created human being. If psychologists want to understand human being, first study theology.
You wrote, "I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself." Please note of your use of the words "I don't think...". This tells me that you are not sure of your own claim. You know well that they did claim to know more about me than I know about myself. In other words, you are being dishonest to me. Well, you know you are being dishonest in your first comment to me because you want me to be polite when you knew that I have always been polite. Can you ask a polite man like me to be polite? Why don't you ask others who are not polite to me to be polite to me?
Nothing can make me tick, but I know that it is not polite to not response to people who take the time to response to my comment. Because you made false accusation that I am ranting when I am just replying, then I am not surprise when you wrote, "...what makes you tick". You definitely wrote your comment without thinking and without thinking of all the negative consequences. Because there is no way of knowing your true age (since you know that you are dishonest and made false accusations to me), if you are older than me, I suggest that you grow up. You, like all others who have commented on my view on the topic of illegal immigrants, claim to know more about me than I know about myself. You never knew whether anything can make me tick, but you think you are god and able to make assumption and wrote, "...what makes you tick".
If people do not agree or dislike my view on illegal immigrants, they can keep it to themselves or response to my comment politely. I never replied to others' views on illegal immigrants out of respect for them all. Since the first time I wrote my comment, bulk majority people did not write polite comment. Now going back to Glaitol, Glaitol end her comment by writing, "Bitter much". Is that polite?
Why ask a man like me to not call people names when I have never call people names? If people do not agree with my view on illegal immigrants and keep it to themselves or replied politely to my view on illegal immigrants, you do not even have to false accused me of name calling. Thus, if you are a responsible mature adult woman, please tell all the others to keep their opinion to themselves or write a polite response to me. Can you do that? Take care.
Since when is this a therapy session? People who do not understand God can never understand human being; for God created human being. If psychologists want to understand human being, first study theology.
You wrote, "I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself." Please note of your use of the words "I don't think...". This tells me that you are not sure of your own claim. You know well that they did claim to know more about me than I know about myself. In other words, you are being dishonest to me. Well, you know you are being dishonest in your first comment to me because you want me to be polite when you knew that I have always been polite. Can you ask a polite man like me to be polite? Why don't you ask others who are not polite to me to be polite to me?
Nothing can make me tick, but I know that it is not polite to not response to people who take the time to response to my comment. Because you made false accusation that I am ranting when I am just replying, then I am not surprise when you wrote, "...what makes you tick". You definitely wrote your comment without thinking and without thinking of all the negative consequences. Because there is no way of knowing your true age (since you know that you are dishonest and made false accusations to me), if you are older than me, I suggest that you grow up. You, like all others who have commented on my view on the topic of illegal immigrants, claim to know more about me than I know about myself. You never knew whether anything can make me tick, but you think you are god and able to make assumption and wrote, "...what makes you tick".
If people do not agree or dislike my view on illegal immigrants, they can keep it to themselves or response to my comment politely. I never replied to others' views on illegal immigrants out of respect for them all. Since the first time I wrote my comment, bulk majority people did not write polite comment. Now going back to Glaitol, Glaitol end her comment by writing, "Bitter much". Is that polite?
Why ask a man like me to not call people names when I have never call people names? If people do not agree with my view on illegal immigrants and keep it to themselves or replied politely to my view on illegal immigrants, you do not even have to false accused me of name calling. Thus, if you are a responsible mature adult woman, please tell all the others to keep their opinion to themselves or write a polite response to me. Can you do that? Take care.
montemonte: In post 136 you called Glaitol a "big old woman". You also made a comment about "no wonder she is divorced".
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
I don't need to understand you LDL. This is not a therapy session. If it was a therapy session our in-house well educated psychology graduate would be posting.
I don't think anybody is claiming to know more about you then you know about yourself. You are the one who is opening the door as to who you are, how you think and what makes you tick.
All I'm asking is that you not call people names. If you want to opine why illegal immigrants should or shouldn't get a drivers license please comment about THAT.
lovedailylove: I see that you love "illegal immigrants", so why not provide those "illegal immigrants" somewhere to stay in Sweden so that U.S. does not have to deal with "illegal immigrants"?
You seems to know more about me than I know about myself. Since when am I an angry man? Since when am I a man full of hatred towards "illegal immigrants"? I know it is illogical for you to know more about me than for me to know about myself. However, maybe you are an illogical person.
Just because you said "You sound like an angry man full of hatred towards "illegal immigrants", you cannot make me become an angry man. Moreover, you cannot make me become a man full of hatred toward "illegal immigrants".
Last I check, I am still a human being. Yes, I am truly a human being who has shown compassion. Again, I see that you know more about me than I know about myself. Maybe you just love to be an illogical person.
I am definitely very happy in the country I live. If I am not happy, I definitely will move somewhere else. After all, I have dual citizenship of U.S. and Canada. Obtaining legal citizenship of other country is easy, but many people, even yourself included, will rather be sympathizing with those illegal immigrants.
I hope you are happy living in Sweden, and because you sympathize with those illegal immigrants, you should do everything you can to take all illegal immigrants from the U.S. to Sweden so that all the illegal immigrants can be happy in Sweden.
It is wonderful to meet an illogical person like you. Take care.
You seems to know more about me than I know about myself. Since when am I an angry man? Since when am I a man full of hatred towards "illegal immigrants"? I know it is illogical for you to know more about me than for me to know about myself. However, maybe you are an illogical person.
Just because you said "You sound like an angry man full of hatred towards "illegal immigrants", you cannot make me become an angry man. Moreover, you cannot make me become a man full of hatred toward "illegal immigrants".
Last I check, I am still a human being. Yes, I am truly a human being who has shown compassion. Again, I see that you know more about me than I know about myself. Maybe you just love to be an illogical person.
I am definitely very happy in the country I live. If I am not happy, I definitely will move somewhere else. After all, I have dual citizenship of U.S. and Canada. Obtaining legal citizenship of other country is easy, but many people, even yourself included, will rather be sympathizing with those illegal immigrants.
I hope you are happy living in Sweden, and because you sympathize with those illegal immigrants, you should do everything you can to take all illegal immigrants from the U.S. to Sweden so that all the illegal immigrants can be happy in Sweden.
It is wonderful to meet an illogical person like you. Take care.
Freedom of speech comes with behaving with good manner and not insulting people.
Have another drink sir!
2intrigued: Okay, this is just wrong
yes... a little exaggerated
2intrigued: Okay, this is just wrong
I agree, at some point people need to realize that their words can do more harm to people, they don't realize... no matter what the intention.
What about compassion? And a two parts how are ya, how are ya.
lalasierra: Should illegal immigrants be issued drivers licenses?
Only if they can afford a car!
Nikogas: Which people are you referring to?
Illegals here in the US that came here to work
lifeisadream: Only if they can afford a car!
Cut the crap!
What side of the road do you drive on?
What side of the road do you drive on?
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And all this business about how he is uncaring about children. The "Parents" used to be responsible for the children. If the parents are going to teach their children to break the law then what is that generation going to feel? maybe, possibly a rebellious misplaced anger. Maybe shame for what the parents did. Or maybe they will all be embraced by a goverment that might just decide to naturalize them all. But once again I have to ask why another person has to obey the laws and even pay the price when they make a mistake and yet others that are not even supposed to be there get special treatment. Why are some illegals more popular then others? It just all seems to be a big mess. And what about just going back to the basic. That being the present law. If I am in a situation where I need to survive I do not resort to breaking the law. And I have seen people that I grew up with do that. And they went to jail, and now some of them have died while in jail. I am not without a Heart, but wait till you turn your back and the same person you felt sorry for runs down your friends girl and has no insurance to even cover the cost of the hospital or funeral. Adults and especially Adults with children have a responsibility to set an example. If they can not then they should not be bringing those babies into a world that they can not at least insure that they will eat without breaking the law. It would be great if that went with those that choose to just be lazy as well, but it happens all over. After reading this far your anger or annoyment has turned to boredom so there it is. LOL. more things that need to be changed but few that really get out and make a difference.
What choices do these people, living under conditions of poverty, have ?