Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real (84)

Jul 8, 2013 9:55 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
baronobeefdip: I can't accept his testimony until I see his reports rather than hearing claims based on conjecture and someone enforce those claims dogmatically)


Your thoughts don't matter, it's gone to the courts after legally recognized forensic experts have weighed in. And...

BOMBSHELL: Expert Tied To Obama Attorneys Says Birth Certificate Is 100% Fraud dcclothesline.com/2013/06/09/bombshell-expert-tied-to-obama-attorneys-says-birth-certificate-is-100-fraud/

"Reed Hayes is a court qualified handwriting and document examiner whose business is located in Honolulu, Hawaii. He has nearly 40 years of handwriting related experience, and has worked as an international consultant and speaker. Never heard of him? Well, Hayes is the Certified Document Examiner (CDE) who produced the 40 page opinion referenced in the Mike Zullo affidavit that was submitted to the Alabama Supreme Court in the Obama eligibility case and his report concluded that the Obama birth certificate image, located at WhiteHouse.gov is a complete fabrication."

You can provide your non-expert thoughts all day long and it doesn't matter. But, as a professional who has used, created and worked with PDF documents in legal and governmental situations, I have to comment on this statement you made:

"Of course there will be anomalies of a computer generated when a paper is scanned these days."

You can not, in any instance, take a scanned document and take it apart piece by piece as was done during more than one examination of BO's BC.

What scientific degree do you hold? Me thinks your "testimony" would not hold up in court.

Besides the BC, there are some other anomalies that can not be explained simply by saying of course it can't be true what the birthers say because the Republicans are after him

Your inability to find revealing evidence tells me you might want to learn how to be a better "scientist"

Jul 8, 2013 10:03 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Checkers101: Its relevant because if he wasnt born in the US his presidency is ILLEGAL along with all his wars.


Exactly correct. I am always amazed at how people think it might be no problem for an illegal person to be President of any country. That's just so, so ... dumb. How did people become so easy to deceive? confused
Jul 8, 2013 10:15 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
I am no expert, But I am skeptical of almost everything and not easily convinced (Experts make mistakes too). Science has many studies and document examination isn't mine. As far as everyone else knows, My views matter just as much as the homeless man that lives under the freeway around the corner of my house that shouts "Lizard People Control The Government!!!" rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 8, 2013 11:38 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
baronobeefdip: I am no expert, But I am skeptical of almost everything and not easily convinced (Experts make mistakes too). Science has many studies and document examination isn't mine. As far as everyone else knows, My views matter just as much as the homeless man that lives under the freeway around the corner of my house that shouts "Lizard People Control The Government!!!"
if your opinion is based on faulty information, it does not matter - don't worry, multiple experts have it under control. And, that guy living under the freeway shouting about lizards wouldn't get kred for his Obama BC views either, in fact, None of our opinions matter on it, it's a legal case and until it has exhausted all avenues, there is no opinion other than expert and legal opinion that matters.

Sorry OP, but, it's kind of a shame asking for opinions on something that is so polarizing, specially when the media has twisted and hidden the truth for so long. the issue is tainted.
Jul 8, 2013 11:43 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
baronobeefdip: I am no expert, But I am skeptical of almost everything and not easily convinced (Experts make mistakes too). Science has many studies and document examination isn't mine. As far as everyone else knows, My views matter just as much as the homeless man that lives under the freeway around the corner of my house that shouts "Lizard People Control The Government!!!"
Hay Barono,how come you using my name.????dunno dunno dunno
Jul 8, 2013 11:47 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
Here is my last argument. It's the last thing I will post regarding this matter but I just thought I aka that I have read more and learned more like you told me to

Jul 8, 2013 11:47 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Samalona68
Samalona68Samalona68Ujung Pandang, Indonesia3 Threads 368 Posts
Leo_7: i dont really care about obama and his birth certificate


NEITHER DO I.
HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE DOESNT BRING ANY GOOD TO ME.


:)
Jul 8, 2013 11:49 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
Jul 9, 2013 2:42 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip: Here is my last argument. It's the last thing I will post regarding this matter but I just thought I aka that I have read more and learned more like you told me to

yep,Snopes!
Welcome to Soros' Web!laugh
Jul 9, 2013 2:56 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Delatude
DelatudeDelatudeParis, Ile-de-France France649 Posts
Only one thing to say.

Geeshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! doh

cheers
Jul 9, 2013 3:06 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Morning...humm...are we still looking for the Ngoloko?????

doh
Jul 9, 2013 3:11 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Delatude
DelatudeDelatudeParis, Ile-de-France France649 Posts
Bogart_1960: Morning...humm...are we still looking for the Ngoloko?????


Good morning Bogart, handshake

More like "go loco" thread. laugh cheers
Jul 9, 2013 3:17 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real




He went to his mama and covered his head
And told his mama what his papa had said
His mama she laughed, she say, "Go man, go
Your daddy ain't your daddy, but your daddy don't know."


Just substitute Hawaii for Trinidad!laugh
Jul 9, 2013 3:19 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
Jul 9, 2013 3:36 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Delatude: Good morning Bogart,

More like "go loco" thread.


is getting there,...laugh maybe that's the name of the town he was born..."go loco"dunno

cheers
Jul 9, 2013 3:40 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Conrad73: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAkkLQr2Kjc
He went to his mama and covered his head
And told his mama what his papa had said
His mama she laughed, she say, "Go man, go
Your daddy ain't your daddy, but your daddy don't know."Just substitute Hawaii for Trinidad!


blame the daddy !!laugh

Morning Conrad !cheers
Jul 9, 2013 3:44 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
Bogart_1960: blame the daddy !!

Morning Conrad !
Good Morning!grin
Jul 9, 2013 9:43 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
Well this has been interesting thank you very much for the info. I just feel like I have been consumed by some underground society like The Weather Underground or The Phineas Priesthood.laugh laugh
Jul 9, 2013 11:32 AM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing
baronobeefdip: Well this has been interesting thank you very much for the info. I just feel like I have been consumed by some underground society like The Weather Underground or The Phineas Priesthood.
rolling on the floor laughing

welcome to the mind boggling (I guess) seedy underground of connecting singles yay

the world is a conspiracy? comfort
Jul 9, 2013 2:32 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
PJ1961: welcome to the mind boggling (I guess) seedy underground of connecting singles

the world is a conspiracy?

Thanks, Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to line my hat with tin foil (and wallet RFID chips in credit cards and all). Snag my SLR camera to look for bigfoot, and assemble my telescope to find UFOs and try to contact aliens with my Satellite Dish laugh
Jul 9, 2013 3:01 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
baronobeefdip: Thanks, Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to line my hat with tin foil (and wallet RFID chips in credit cards and all). Snag my SLR camera to look for bigfoot, and assemble my telescope to find UFOs and try to contact aliens with my Satellite Dish


way more fun than hunting political anomalies cheers peace dancing
Jul 9, 2013 3:23 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
PJ1961: way more fun than hunting political anomalies
And capturing the chupacabra and conjuring demons in my neighbor's house lol
Jul 9, 2013 3:23 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
baronobeefdip
baronobeefdipbaronobeefdipSan Antonio, Texas USA30 Posts
PJ1961: way more fun than hunting political anomalies
And capturing the chupacabra and conjuring demons in my neighbor's house lol
Jul 9, 2013 3:30 PM CST Do you believe that Obama's birth certificate is real
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
bodleing: I see nothing in jac's posts other than clear and questioning debate.

Why would you see it as a "silly game?"

Sometimes I suspect people feel threatened by jac's straight forward no nonsense approach, especially many males on here.
I would just like to let you know that I'm here when you need to talk. E-mail me. If one person avoids a plague then it is likely to be out of misunderstanding. If two people avoid a plague, it is likely to be out of fear and anger. If a whole lot of people avoid a plague, it is likely to be a plague.
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