raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
crayons: ya know i keep hearin conspiracy this, & conspiracy that... has it ever occurred to anyone or does anyone even have a feel about what the right thing to do is, or is it like the bible says, what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right, one cant fight history. and those who forget are doomed to repeat it,
tell you what crayons, why dont you drive up to Detroit and find one of those blood or crip gangs out and about. Throw em some coin and tell em to do a song and dance for you.
raphael119: tell you what crayons, why dont you drive up to Detroit and find one of those blood or crip gangs out and about. Throw em some coin and tell em to do a song and dance for you.
dont know if what you said has anything to do with what i said but will tell you I have fought the crips and the bloods on a civilian level, never firing a shot and made them look so stupid after putting up with riotin shootings and other stuff, they all went weeweewee we got ran out of town... hows that for funny...i sure think it is, i'll clue ya in and say i had a little help doin it too.
and it was thanksgiving day 2003 after the dope houses were abandoned the good mexicans who were waiting in the wings brought the bulldozers in and razed both houses without permits or permission from the city, not much was ever said by anyone except words of thanks to those of us who made it happen.
what was so hard was the mexican mafia, ms13 was supplyin both sides crips and bloods, in this small texas town, they were pretty smart, they actually started a drug war, and if i would have went ballistic on my own at that time i would have wound up on the news or in jail, so i played all three sides like a fiddle, but i had help from 2 different outside dept's to pull it off, because the local police were makin money off all this.. hows that fer funny???
crayons: what was so hard was the mexican mafia, ms13 was supplyin both sides crips and bloods, in this small texas town, they were pretty smart, they actually started a drug war, and if i would have went ballistic on my own at that time i would have wound up on the news or in jail, so i played all three sides like a fiddle, but i had help from 2 different outside dept's to pull it off, because the local police were makin money off all this.. hows that fer funny???
Did you ever consider poverty being one of the reasons for criminal activity?...unable to gain employment due to lack of education...just a thought...gangs recruit youngsters and it maybe seen as their only hope to get out of living in squalor...
That being said...some are far gone...no hope to reform...glad people are standing up to them and trying to make their town safe...
I wonder if police were paid adequately and had more education...would they be turning the other cheek and accepting bribes?...another thought...
Lots of gang activity here as well...not too many drive by shootings but a good number of gang related shootings resulting in death...few innocents have been killed as well but my city is still a safe place to live...
loulou77: Did you ever consider poverty being one of the reasons for criminal activity?
NO!~ they had backed themselves right up to a higher income neighborhood where i was...they were nothin but scum sellin dope with wives and kids on welfare,all raisin hell actin like Pyros, ms13 idiots included. i dont talk about this much but I'll do it this one time to show how sick this stuff is. one doper queen even had the nerve to ask me to mow her yard after her whole family was hauled off to jail by the drug task force.
crayons: NO!~ they had backed themselves right up to a higher income neighborhood where i was...they were nothin but scum sellin dope with wives and kids on welfare,all raisin hell actin like Pyros, ms13 idiots included. i dont talk about this much but I'll do it this one time to show how sick this stuff is. one doper queen even had the nerve to ask me to mow her yard after her whole family was hauled off to jail by the drug task force.
I find that hard to believe that they live in a better neighbourhood and still receive welfare...usually questions would be raised and I bet they drive decent cars too...
I get you are fed up with them...who wants criminals in your hood...no one does including most Mexican Americans...
Your neighbour sounds like she doesn't have a clue how to behave...sometimes people are just clueless...
loulou77: I find that hard to believe that they live in a better neighbourhood and still receive welfare...usually questions would be raised and I bet they drive decent cars too...
I get you are fed up with them...who wants criminals in your hood...no one does including most Mexican Americans...
Your neighbour sounds like she doesn't have a clue how to behave...sometimes people are just clueless...
Did you know that a homeless person in Canada gets 3 dollars a day for food, and a Syrian refugee gets 61 dollars?
crayons: the only thing about yer responses to me over the past couple of years is yer rudeness that keeps me awake enough to do my 2nd job,
and dont give me that reverse psychology crap about nothin positive to say since you love stickin yer nose in honest hard workin taxpayin americans biz, and after all you're a red chineese shill and luv ta talk like ya hate americans, i hope yer homegrown commie talk gits you the commie date of yer dreams, cuz i only enter here to try and stay awake.
Well that's okay then, no need to thank me, its all done for free
Capricorn143: Did you know that a homeless person in Canada gets 3 dollars a day for food, and a Syrian refugee gets 61 dollars?
Cap Happy New Year...midnight in Vancouver...
FYI Homeless have free meals all over the city...no need to go hungry...and we are increasing low income housing and increasing the number of shelters...
Nothing wrong with helping the Syrian refugees...most have families...and some are independently being sponsored...
Many here are advocates for the poor and homeless...we are a society that cares for all the down trodden...universal healthcare here as well...
It is a happy time with the newly elected Liberal PM Trudeau...people are optimistic...
Hotels will be expected to provide up to three meals a day. It states the government will reimburse up to $15 per person for breakfast, $16 for lunch and $30 for dinner.
Hotels will be expected to provide up to three meals a day. It states the government will reimburse up to $15 per person for breakfast, $16 for lunch and $30 for dinner.
Cap
You must stop your anti=Syrian rhetoric...Canada will do what we need to do...and will continue to help refugees no matter what...if Europe is suffocated with the problems of the refugee crisis....no doubt other countries are finding solutions...it is a global crisis...we will help..
You must stop your anti=Syrian rhetoric...Canada will do what we need to do...and will continue to help refugees no matter what...if Europe is suffocated with the problems of the refugee crisis....no doubt other countries are finding solutions...it is a global crisis...we will help..
If showing the facts is using anti Syrian rhetoric, then so be it! I have every right to show the facts, as much as you have the right to turn the blind eye to them.
You must stop your anti=Syrian rhetoric...Canada will do what we need to do...and will continue to help refugees no matter what...if Europe is suffocated with the problems of the refugee crisis....no doubt other countries are finding solutions...it is a global crisis...we will help..
Plus my response was to Raphael's claim that I was not telling the truth. If I hate something it is lying!
Hotels will be expected to provide up to three meals a day. It states the government will reimburse up to $15 per person for breakfast, $16 for lunch and $30 for dinner.
CAP The refugees spent some time in hotels due to the long flight they had been on...Canada is a huge country...travel to Ontario...or Alberta...or B.C....what did you expect?....so this allowance is necessary...then their journey continues to their sponsors home...
The refugees that are not sponsored will be housed in military bases as temporary shelters...it is a work in progress...
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
loulou77: CAP The refugees spent some time in hotels due to the long flight they had been on...Canada is a huge country...travel to Ontario...or Alberta...or B.C....what did you expect?....so this allowance is necessary...then their journey continues to their sponsors home...
The refugees that are not sponsored will be housed in military bases as temporary shelters...it is a work in progress...
I wonder how many more children you'd be able to save if you were spending the money in a Turkish refugee camp.
TheRedSquirrel87: I wonder how many more children you'd be able to save if you were spending the money in a Turkish refugee camp.
Red There are several private agencies taking donations for the refugees in Turkey...so they are receiving help...
Being in a refugee camp means not able to work and they live in a confined space...once the refugees arrive in Canada they will have the ability to work, learn english or french...and be a resident of Canada...
If you feel so strongly about child refugees...make a donation...or sponsor a family if you have the funds...
loulou77: Red There are several private agencies taking donations for the refugees in Turkey...so they are receiving help...
Millions for the camps versus billions on fewer people transporting them into other countries. As long as a little something makes some people feel good about themselves.
Capricorn143: Millions for the camps versus billions on fewer people transporting them into other countries. As long as a little something makes some people feel good about themselves.
Your too funny...trying to find anything negative so you can justify your views...
So I guess I will have to agree to disagree...and I do feel positive in the fact that some people are being given a fresh start...
loulou77: Your too funny...trying to find anything negative so you can justify your views...
So I guess I will have to agree to disagree...and I do feel positive in the fact that some people are being given a fresh start...
Excellent, then we can agree that we disagree; and when I present the facts you focus on emotions only - and I strongly doubt that gives you the right to a higher moral ground.
Capricorn143: Excellent, then we can agree that we disagree; and when I present the facts you focus on emotions only - and I strongly doubt that gives you the right to a higher moral ground.
I don't think you have all the facts...and to be without compassion is not good...
Fear is not an emotion I wish to have...Trump is full of fear mongering tactics...Muslims are part of the fallout in order to win the Republican vote...
To fight back against terrorism is to not give in to the fear that some create for their own benefit...Bernie Sanders the Democratic candidate said just that...
loulou77: I don't think you have all the facts...and to be without compassion is not good...
Fear is not an emotion I wish to have...Trump is full of fear mongering tactics...Muslims are part of the fallout in order to win the Republican vote...
To fight back against terrorism is to not give in to the fear that some create for their own benefit...Bernie Sanders the Democratic candidate said just that...
NObody has all the facts, but it doesn't mean the ones at our disposal are good for nothing, t doesn't mean these facts should be dismissed because they do not fit your agenda, just mention yours, as you were talking about mine.
You talk about compassion - does your compassion apply only to the 20,000, or whatever number Canada is taking in, what happens to the person that is 20,001 or 20,002 or 20,010? Of course, not your problem. How good are the criteria used to select these lucky ones? How good are the ones judging and selecting? What happens to the ones who fled Syria but did not dare go to the camps for fear of being harrassed there because of their religion?
Whatever makes you feel good Lou, the consequences will be dealt with someone else, so why think of them now.
And my dear fear is the emotion everyone has, only some are afriad to admit it.
Capricorn143: NObody has all the facts, but it doesn't mean the ones at our disposal are good for nothing, t doesn't mean these facts should be dismissed because they do not fit your agenda, just mention yours, as you were talking about mine.
You talk about compassion - does your compassion apply only to the 20,000, or whatever number Canada is taking in, what happens to the person that is 20,001 or 20,002 or 20,010? Of course, not your problem. How good are the criteria used to select these lucky ones? How good are the ones judging and selecting? What happens to the ones who fled Syria but did not dare go to the camps for fear of being harrassed there because of their religion?
Whatever makes you feel good Lou, the consequences will be dealt with someone else, so why think of them now.
And my dear fear is the emotion everyone has, only some are afriad to admit it.
Looking at the facts, drawing conclusions from experience, thinking about the consequences and trying to prevent them is not fear mongering. And saying we should not fear because it serves their purpose is fine but it does not reflect the reality - people do fear, we can see it in Europe: Brussels cancelled the Christmas tree, Munich police shut down 2 train stations, people from the other parts of the world cancelled their trips to Paris and many many more examples. Fear is just another emotion whether you want to admit it or not.
NObody has all the facts, but it doesn't mean the ones at our disposal are good for nothing, t doesn't mean these facts should be dismissed because they do not fit your agenda, just mention yours, as you were talking about mine.
You talk about compassion - does your compassion apply only to the 20,000, or whatever number Canada is taking in, what happens to the person that is 20,001 or 20,002 or 20,010? Of course, not your problem. How good are the criteria used to select these lucky ones? How good are the ones judging and selecting? What happens to the ones who fled Syria but did not dare go to the camps for fear of being harrassed there because of their religion?
You should listen to the clip I provided...I am not a US citizen but do listen to the debates...Trump's opinions do not resonate with all Americans...thank goodness...
The Syrian refugees would have been able to go to the US but the attitude has changed...it is a global issue...and too bad other countries are not showing compassion...but if Canada can help with the crisis...we do what we can...of course we have a process to screen refugees...I have faith in my government to handle this matter...
Some refugees have private sponsors whether it be relatives or organizations, people want to help as much as they can...but not every refugee wants to live in Canada...but some have taken a leap of faith...
Once again religion is your issue...I am sure there are many stories regarding fear of harassment but there are many good acts that exist too...like this one...
I do not share your point of view...fearing refugees is not one of them...nor do I fear Muslims...I work with a few gals who are Muslim at the hospital...nothing scary about them... There are always going to be a few bad in the bunch...if they fail to adhere to Canadian laws...they will face punishment...like everyone else...
Capricorn143: Looking at the facts, drawing conclusions from experience, thinking about the consequences and trying to prevent them is not fear mongering. And saying we should not fear because it serves their purpose is fine but it does not reflect the reality - people do fear, we can see it in Europe: Brussels cancelled the Christmas tree, Munich police shut down 2 train stations, people from the other parts of the world cancelled their trips to Paris and many many more examples. Fear is just another emotion whether you want to admit it or not.
The fear mongering was in reference to Trump...not Europeans...the problem with Trump is that he is making the Muslim population in the US fear others who feed off of Trump's fear speech...some do not want to go outside due to fear of being beaten up...it works both ways...
I think the point Bernie Sanders is making that all countries need to fight these terrorists...Muslim countries included...
It is sometimes necessary to shut down stations or cancel events...such is life...and some do not want their holidays spent worrying about extremist attacks...
However, I would rather be in Paris, Brussels or Munich than in Syria or countries surrounding the war zone...
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tell you what crayons, why dont you drive up to Detroit and find one of those blood or crip gangs out and about. Throw em some coin and tell em to do a song and dance for you.