raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
YouMeUs: That's it in a nutshell. Once someone is brainwashed, there's no reasoning with their programming. All logical communications will be for not, unfortunately.
thats what they say in north korea you know, the outside world is brainwashed
by the way the washington times, which you claimed was demo, is a famous far right newspaper, several decades old , paid for by its extreme right wing owners , and has never been able to pay its way from its readers.
raphael119: thats what they say in north korea you know, the outside world is brainwashed
by the way the washington times, which you claimed was demo, is a famous far right newspaper, several decades old , paid for by its extreme right wing owners , and has never been able to pay its way from its readers.
Still waiting on those facts. Or do you want to continue avoiding that and start kicking a dead horse instead?
epirb: Washington Post certainly supports Clinton . Amazon group of companys allows Jeff Bezos to keep that paper well funded . Vertically integrated tec companys with market power that should tweak the interest of Republicans but will slip past most of them . Like the other Tec companys they don't want Trumpy having a close look at their IRS payments
Makes one wonder if they're amongst the 65. Wikileaks is revealing quite a bit of this circus charade, so it should all come out in the wash.
1) Wikileaks exposes that Hillary controls 65 of the most powerful media anchors, hosts, and columnists. They're literally working for her. This includes Politico's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Thrush, who referred to himself as a hack in an email to John Podesta.
2) We now know through Wikileaks that the Clinton campaign hired Former Miss Universe Alicia Machado and planned, for months, to use her against Donald Trump.
3) Arguably one of the most disturbing things about Hillary's campaign is that several of her top strategists have been exposed in Wikileaks as engaging in "oversampling" Democrat constituencies. Wikileaks has revealed that oversampling is a strategy used by Hillary Clinton and can be used to influence the media.
4) Wikileaks has revealed that major entities who supported Bernie Sanders in the primary will be targeted by Hillary. One of these entities is called the National Nurses United. John Podesta and American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten conspired to target the National Nurses United because they refused to support Hillary.
5) Wikileaks revealed that Braverman had leaked evidence to a journalist about the Clinton Foundation and told the journalist to "follow the money" to find the real Clinton scandal. Two top Clinton aides, John Podesta and Neera Tanden, were distressed by the news, as it pointed to a bombshell inside the Clinton Foundation.
6) A new Wikileak exposes that the Clinton Foundation targeted Oxfam, an international relief organization, because Oxfam has released a report critical of Bill Clinton's recovery efforts in Haiti. Altogether, 13.5 billion dollars were donated to Haiti, and the Clinton's controlled quite a bit of it, but nobody really knows where the money went.
7) Wikileaks has revealed that John Podesta promised to sell executive privileges to super wealthy donors. John Podesta was a close aide to Obama, and even closer to Bill and Hillary. There was also evidence that Hillary erased the nation of Algeria from the terrorist watch list after they gave a donation to the Clinton Foundation.
8) Rigged polling was evident in the primary, when a Michigan poll release showed Hillary ahead by 27% moving into voting day, but she lost by 1.5%. The polls are, or course, rigged, and we know this from a Wikileak showing that the Clinton Campaign knew Michigan was very close but released grossly oversampled polls anyway.
YouMeUs: Makes one wonder if they're amongst the 65. Wikileaks is revealing quite a bit of this circus charade, so it should all come out in the wash.
1) Wikileaks exposes that Hillary controls 65 of the most powerful media anchors, hosts, and columnists. They're literally working for her. This includes Politico's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Thrush, who referred to himself as a hack in an email to John Podesta.
2) We now know through Wikileaks that the Clinton campaign hired Former Miss Universe Alicia Machado and planned, for months, to use her against Donald Trump.
3) Arguably one of the most disturbing things about Hillary's campaign is that several of her top strategists have been exposed in Wikileaks as engaging in "oversampling" Democrat constituencies. Wikileaks has revealed that oversampling is a strategy used by Hillary Clinton and can be used to influence the media.
4) Wikileaks has revealed that major entities who supported Bernie Sanders in the primary will be targeted by Hillary. One of these entities is called the National Nurses United. John Podesta and American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten conspired to target the National Nurses United because they refused to support Hillary.
5) Wikileaks revealed that Braverman had leaked evidence to a journalist about the Clinton Foundation and told the journalist to "follow the money" to find the real Clinton scandal. Two top Clinton aides, John Podesta and Neera Tanden, were distressed by the news, as it pointed to a bombshell inside the Clinton Foundation.
6) A new Wikileak exposes that the Clinton Foundation targeted Oxfam, an international relief organization, because Oxfam has released a report critical of Bill Clinton's recovery efforts in Haiti. Altogether, 13.5 billion dollars were donated to Haiti, and the Clinton's controlled quite a bit of it, but nobody really knows where the money went.
7) Wikileaks has revealed that John Podesta promised to sell executive privileges to super wealthy donors. John Podesta was a close aide to Obama, and even closer to Bill and Hillary. There was also evidence that Hillary erased the nation of Algeria from the terrorist watch list after they gave a donation to the Clinton Foundation.
8) Rigged polling was evident in the primary, when a Michigan poll release showed Hillary ahead by 27% moving into voting day, but she lost by 1.5%. The polls are, or course, rigged, and we know this from a Wikileak showing that the Clinton Campaign knew Michigan was very close but released grossly oversampled polls anyway.
The US is going to be a very different place in four years if Hillary wins . I doubt those supporting her have any idea whats at risk until them or their family's are effected by the consequences . Trumps GOP registration sheet you posted here has been posted before and I doubt its been read now or then . In some countries polling before election day is prohibited as in the minds of the simple they like to follow the popular . One party here tried to introduce poll prohibition and got nowhere , great pity .
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
YouMeUs: Certainly it's possible! And I'm sure many registered as Republicans have voted Democrat, just as registered Dem's having voted Republican.
Like myself, being an Independant, I had to lie and register as either Republican or Democrat before I could be allowed to vote for my presidential choice. All because of these two political parties (Reps and Dems) not wanting any other form of political parties to challenge them, forces many non-Rep or non-Dem people to resort to lying just to be able to vote on a presidential candidate.
It should not be that way but that's the sad truth to it.
Do you have to register either as a R or a D before you could vote? ( I wonder if you have chosen D? )
That is rather strange because it should be your choice including not to register to either party.
Here we do not have to be registered in any party to vote we do need just our IFE (Id with photo) to vote.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
sophiasummer: So Technically, none of the millions of Americans at the polls will be voting directly for a presidential candidate. Their votes are actually used to choose a group of "electors", who then pick the next president on their behalf.
You've probably seen this map once or twice before. It shows all 50 American states, along with the number of electoral votes up for grabs in each. These electoral votes - one for each elector - are the key to the election.
There are 538 of them in total, divided between the states according to their population. For example California, a large state, has 55 electoral votes, while sparsely-populated Idaho has just four.
On election day, whoever wins the popular vote in any given state claims all of that state's electoral votes - and the first candidate to 270 electoral votes is declared president-elect. That's the finish line.
Really?
Happy voting
Yes, I have seen several scenarios about the voting matter in USA for this election.
Even Hillary (as the new president of USA) will not get the majority of votes because many just do not vote or do cancel their ballot, then the question: is that democracy? and not only for USA but for any country including mine.
lifeisadream: Do you have to register either as a R or a D before you could vote? ( I wonder if you have chosen D? I've chosen either in past years since neither party matters to me, just needed to choose one so I could vote)
That is rather strange because it should be your choice including not to register to either party.
Here we do not have to be registered in any party to vote we do need just our IFE (Id with photo) to vote.
Yes, we can only register as either R or D for voting in General Elections (voting for the next president, senate etc..) We can choose and register for whatever party we want for Primary Elections (voting for candidates running for presidency for process of elimination until one of each political party has been chosen, local and state government officials etc...) But would still need to re-register as either R or D for the General Elections, which is wrong. We should be able to register and represent whatever party to be able to vote in either election.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
YouMeUs: Yes, we can only register as either R or D for voting in General Elections (voting for the next president, senate etc..) We can choose and register for whatever party we want for Primary Elections (voting for candidates running for presidency for process of elimination until one of each political party has been chosen, local and state government officials etc...) But would still need to re-register as either R or D for the General Elections, which is wrong. We should be able to register and represent whatever party to be able to vote in either election.
The whole American voting system is strange, based as it was on the America of the1800's, it has failed to move with the times. So the popular vote gets ignored and the electoral college vote gets accepted. That would be okay if the electoral college was above manipulation.
Interesting that this election result is a reverse of the Obarma Election, Except that today the republicans say it is a fair and just system, a complete U turn from their comments 8 years ago.
rizlared: The whole American voting system is strange, based as it was on the America of the1800's, it has failed to move with the times. So the popular vote gets ignored and the electoral college vote gets accepted. That would be okay if the electoral college was above manipulation.
Interesting that this election result is a reverse of the Obarma Election, Except that today the republicans say it is a fair and just system, a complete U turn from their comments 8 years ago.
Actually, the idea of using Electoral College goes back further, utilizing a concept based on the Centurial Assembly system of the Roman Republic. Which worked fine, as it prevented outside influences from other states as well as foreign countries. It wasn't until around 1800, when political parties became the norm that the system ran into serious tampering problems, and that's when the 12th Amendment was introduced and went into effect, stopping such tamperings. As with the times, there is also progress, and so the Amendment receives necessary addendums to counter further, newer tamperings, keeping the system up to date.
I agree that the Popular Vote doesn't get the final say on who gets elected, and even today it can be tampered with more easily while it's possible to also going undetected. But do we know of any country having the perfect, 100% tamper-proof voting system?
YouMeUs: Yes, we can only register as either R or D for voting in General Elections (voting for the next president, senate etc..) We can choose and register for whatever party we want for Primary Elections (voting for candidates running for presidency for process of elimination until one of each political party has been chosen, local and state government officials etc...) But would still need to re-register as either R or D for the General Elections, which is wrong. We should be able to register and represent whatever party to be able to vote in either election.
I think you have it a bit mixed there but I can say that first hand you can vote for whoever you want being registered non partisan or of the other party in the General Elections. In the Primaries you can only vote for the party you belong to. I was registered as "Independent" and therefore only could vote on local agendas and had to wait to cast my final vote in the General Election. But even if I was a Registered Republican or Democrat I could still vote for anyone I wanted in the General Election opposed to staying within your own party during the Primaries.
Dragos1: I think you have it a bit mixed there but I can say that first hand you can vote for whoever you want being registered non partisan or of the other party in the General Elections. In the Primaries you can only vote for the party you belong to. I was registered as "Independent" and therefore only could vote on local agendas and had to wait to cast my final vote in the General Election. But even if I was a Registered Republican or Democrat I could still vote for anyone I wanted in the General Election opposed to staying within your own party during the Primaries.
A dyslexic moment. Thanks for clarifying. In either case it's still silly having to register and re-register just to cast a vote if one is neither D or R. I don't like to lie, but this system forces my hand to do so, or I can't vote. There should be a one size fits all voting registration depicting our choice of any political party. It would be a lot easier on the voting system to keep track on all parties that do vote in either elections. But until there's more political parties besides Rep and Dem having the weight to throw around, I don't see that happening.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Benito Pablo Juárez García fue un abogado y político mexicano, de origen indígena, presidente de México en varias ocasiones, del 18 de diciembre de 1857 al 18 de julio de 1872. Se le conoce como el «Benemérito de las Américas».
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
lifeisadream: Benito Pablo Juárez García fue un abogado y político mexicano, de origen indígena, presidente de México en varias ocasiones, del 18 de diciembre de 1857 al 18 de julio de 1872. Se le conoce como el «Benemérito de las Américas».
lifeisadream: if you knew the History of México you would know but you do not. (((laughin)))
you are just bitter and don't want to tell why Mexicans only elect "Euro Mexi's"... you're the expert... spill it...they want to here it from the master...not me.
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thats what they say in north korea you know, the outside world is brainwashed
by the way the washington times, which you claimed was demo, is a famous far right newspaper, several decades old , paid for by its extreme right wing owners , and has never been able to pay its way from its readers.