Do you think...Over representation....creates division? (82)
LeeCharming: In world war 1 and 2....The over representation of men on the battlefields and in filthyrat ridden... trenches was happening...so many many men made the sacrifice...but then you get these women...who say...women need men...like a fish needs a bicycle
Violence and war are not the best example of why women need men. Men were the cause of those wars, a solution to a problem created by ourselves. There's a certain Wayne Couzens logic to saying that women should respect the worst instincts of a man.
ChesneyChrist: Violence and war are not the best example of why women need men. Men were the cause of those wars, a solution to a problem created by ourselves. There's a certain Wayne Couzens logic to saying that women should respect the worst instincts of a man.
Tiger_Moth: Hi Selenite
I've never been one to beat about the bush,but some people get my back up with their constant whinging especially about women.
Ohhh I totally hear you! I was smiling while writing my comment I've never been one to beat about the bush,but some people get my back up with their constant whinging especially about women.
LeeCharming: maybe 50% of women teachers...should become lorry drivers
Interesting reply ... I thought you like women in the kitchen cooking the favourite meals of their male partner and children and cleaning the house. How are women (according to your vision) going to do that AND drive lorries the length of England and Scotland?
Your suggestion is a bit incoherent with your vision of 'how women should be'.
I would argue that the last time women needed men to be warriors was the caves. When the tribe was under attack by some lions.
Men fighting with other men is, objectively speaking, good for nothing. In the bigger picture war is good for absolutely nothing.
Men fighting with other men is, objectively speaking, good for nothing. In the bigger picture war is good for absolutely nothing.
LeeCharming: Well your idol gloria Steinem made the statement about men and many others
Bs war is a man's world excuse...for women not being on the frontline and I don't think you value men at all
Interesting reply again! Bs war is a man's world excuse...for women not being on the frontline and I don't think you value men at all
I haven't got a clue who Gloria Steinem is.
But more importantly is the notion you have that women used the excuse of 'war being a man's world' for not being on the front line when it was rules made by MEN that prevented them from joining during WWI & WWII...
I value men so much that I'm one of those feminists that believe that men and women deserve equal rights and should stop blaming one another for the division between genders and focus on working together and reaching harmony.
LeeCharming: after over 50 years of your cult sisterhood...you'd think women would want to do some of the most dangerous and difficult jobs....but since women have not and could easily get diversity quotas do those jobs....the answer should be obvious
Do you think they should do those jobs in between getting the kids packed lunches, cooking dinners, doing the washing and giving their husband a back rub (according to your vision of the perfect woman partner) or should they dedicate their weekends fir those dangerous and difficult jobs? You know once their partner is home to take over looking after the kids? 
LeeCharming: How about equal custody for men? Your cult sisterhood runs the family courts...destroys men and denies the child the option...to live with their fathers
What kind of society is that where women have taken over the education and legal system of your country when the whole time they could be in the military or roofing houses or just doing dangerous and difficult jobs while the fathers get custody of the children and stay at home! I ask you! Must be the world gone crazy! Sounds like the system needs help 
Seriously... both the mother and the father should be considered for custody of their children. In many cases in fact they have joint custody and work out a suitable schedule for them and the children...
LeeCharming: i think the eagle will fly away again now
ChesneyChrist: I would argue that the last time women needed men to be warriors was the caves. When the tribe was under attack by some lions.
Men fighting with other men is, objectively speaking, good for nothing. In the bigger picture war is good for absolutely nothing.
Apart from making rich people richer ...Men fighting with other men is, objectively speaking, good for nothing. In the bigger picture war is good for absolutely nothing.
Selenite: Do you think they should do those jobs in between getting the kids packed lunches, cooking dinners, doing the washing and giving their husband a back rub (according to your vision of the perfect woman partner) or should they dedicate their weekends fir those dangerous and difficult jobs? You know once their partner is home to take over looking after the kids?
Don't forget the martini!..a good housewife will have one ready when her hubby arrives home from work exhausted in the evening, she gives it to him as he sits down and then she takes his shoes off as he's too tired to do it himself..
snowlynx: Don't forget the martini!..a good housewife will have one ready when her hubby arrives home from work exhausted in the evening, she gives it to him as he sits down and then she takes his shoes off as he's too tired to do it himself..
How could I forget the martini! 
I obviously was very badly educated! 
I think there's some truth in the op although I dont agree with all of it.
I was talking with a friend a couple of weeks ago, he's a police officer with seventeen years in the force. He was telling me how disillusioned he had become with a job he once loved. This was primarily caused by the effects of overrepresentation of ethnic minorities in the force.
He personnally did'nt have and issues with that, but like the OP claims, it would seem that it has caused divisions within the force. The main issues being, the belief that many of the ethnic minority recruits were just not up to the job and had been brought into the force purely on their ethnic background.
I could tell from how he was explaining it to me, there really has been division and resentment created by this kind of so called 'progressive thinking'.
So Lee, we can agree on some things...
I was talking with a friend a couple of weeks ago, he's a police officer with seventeen years in the force. He was telling me how disillusioned he had become with a job he once loved. This was primarily caused by the effects of overrepresentation of ethnic minorities in the force.
He personnally did'nt have and issues with that, but like the OP claims, it would seem that it has caused divisions within the force. The main issues being, the belief that many of the ethnic minority recruits were just not up to the job and had been brought into the force purely on their ethnic background.
I could tell from how he was explaining it to me, there really has been division and resentment created by this kind of so called 'progressive thinking'.
So Lee, we can agree on some things...
Tiger_Moth: Bully or shame you You do that all on your own with your misogynistic posts that are spread all over this site.
Your obsession with this subject and also Marxism is frankly shameful and does you no credit whatsoever. One only has to look at ALL your threads to see the link.
Change the record .
your ad hominem attacks are showing...bye...bye trollYour obsession with this subject and also Marxism is frankly shameful and does you no credit whatsoever. One only has to look at ALL your threads to see the link.
Change the record .
RoseHipster: Keep trying to bring awareness of your viewpoints, be it by poll or threads.
You were not meant to be a clone. or robot.
thanks for the encouragement and i will continue dear ladyYou were not meant to be a clone. or robot.
Selenite: Interesting reply ...
I thought you like women in the kitchen cooking the favourite meals of their male partner and children and cleaning the house. How are women (according to your vision) going to do that AND drive lorries the length of England and Scotland?
Your suggestion is a bit incoherent with your vision of 'how women should be'.
you resort to ad hominem attacksI thought you like women in the kitchen cooking the favourite meals of their male partner and children and cleaning the house. How are women (according to your vision) going to do that AND drive lorries the length of England and Scotland?
Your suggestion is a bit incoherent with your vision of 'how women should be'.
Selenite: Interesting reply again!
I haven't got a clue who Gloria Steinem is.
But more importantly is the notion you have that women used the excuse of 'war being a man's world' for not being on the front line when it was rules made by MEN that prevented them from joining during WWI & WWII...
I value men so much that I'm one of those feminists that believe that men and women deserve equal rights and should stop blaming one another for the division between genders and focus on working together and reaching harmony.
I haven't got a clue who Gloria Steinem is.
But more importantly is the notion you have that women used the excuse of 'war being a man's world' for not being on the front line when it was rules made by MEN that prevented them from joining during WWI & WWII...
I value men so much that I'm one of those feminists that believe that men and women deserve equal rights and should stop blaming one another for the division between genders and focus on working together and reaching harmony.
Selenite: Do you think they should do those jobs in between getting the kids packed lunches, cooking dinners, doing the washing and giving their husband a back rub (according to your vision of the perfect woman partner) or should they dedicate their weekends fir those dangerous and difficult jobs? You know once their partner is home to take over looking after the kids?
more ad hominem attacks
LeeCharming: you don't understand what i am talking about and sorry you lost your husband and father of your children...but never mentioned widowed women...were over represented...so not sure why you mentioned it
I maybe widowed but I am still classed as a single parent!! So was answering your post about single parents!Selenite: What kind of society is that where women have taken over the education and legal system of your country when the whole time they could be in the military or roofing houses or just doing dangerous and difficult jobs while the fathers get custody of the children and stay at home! I ask you! Must be the world gone crazy! Sounds like the system needs help
Seriously... both the mother and the father should be considered for custody of their children. In many cases in fact they have joint custody and work out a suitable schedule for them and the children...
you are twisting everything i said and trying to mock...if you want to do something useful...how about you fight to give men equal rights to custody of their children in the family courts...instead of using empty words and ad hominem attacksSeriously... both the mother and the father should be considered for custody of their children. In many cases in fact they have joint custody and work out a suitable schedule for them and the children...
It's a shame when others can't discuss a subject with maturity and take note of the real problems...over representation can create...some just want to turn a blind eye to it all and deny real issues
Nules: I maybe widowed but I am still classed as a single parent!! So was answering your post about single parents!
widowed mother is not the same as single mother 
LeeCharming: you are twisting everything i said and trying to mock...if you want to do something useful...how about you fight to give men equal rights to custody of their children in the family courts...instead of using empty words and ad hominem attacks
You could be confusing me suggesting your replies be coherent with your ideals of gender roles you have been writing about for months with ad hominem 'attacks'. I don't need to fight to give men equal rights on the family courts. It's already happening in the UK and elsewhere.
Not 'trying' to mock though some people do call it a sense of humour
This subject is very important and trying to deflect...mock...troll...attack...attack...attack...won't stop me creating subjects such as these and make me more determined create more..cause i know some need to talk about them...but fear talking about them...until mr charming talks about them first
Selenite: You could be confusing me suggesting your replies be coherent with your ideals of gender roles you have been writing about for months with ad hominem 'attacks'.
ad hominem you can't separate the subject from the thread creatorReminder to all...The poll subject is...Do you think...Over representation....creates division?
LeeCharming: It's a shame when others can't discuss a subject with maturity and take note of the real problems...over representation can create...some just want to turn a blind eye to it all and deny real issues
You wrote individual posts and those were replied to... On the subject of over representation in general, nobody should be given or not given a job solely on the criteria of gender or race.
If I went for a job on an oil rig I would like to think I wouldn't get the job because I pbysically could not carry out the duties assigned to the job. Not because I'm a woman but because I'm a petite under 5'2 person with limited physical strength.
LeeCharming: ad hominem you can't separate the subject from the thread creator
Nope... did not say anything about you personally... the subject and your ideals are related ...Selenite: You wrote individual posts and those were replied to...
On the subject of over representation in general, nobody should be given or not given a job solely on the criteria of gender or race.
If I went for a job on an oil rig I would like to think I wouldn't get the job because I pbysically could not carry out the duties assigned to the job. Not because I'm a woman but because I'm a petite under 5'2 person with limited physical strength.
Diversity quotas force employment of women and other races...over white males...this is a fact...been happening a long time and it is systematic discrimination against white males...or are you playing ignorant to the war on white menOn the subject of over representation in general, nobody should be given or not given a job solely on the criteria of gender or race.
If I went for a job on an oil rig I would like to think I wouldn't get the job because I pbysically could not carry out the duties assigned to the job. Not because I'm a woman but because I'm a petite under 5'2 person with limited physical strength.
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