Do you believe in the death penalty? (317)
velvetUG: IF it brought back the victim and stopped the autocratic sadness that often victims loved ones feel, then yes i would be for it
quite often those left behind feel deep emptyness in regards to the perpretator being executed
it is a continuation of a vicious cycle.
and no revenge should never be the motive that kind of sentence.
quite often those left behind feel deep emptyness in regards to the perpretator being executed
it is a continuation of a vicious cycle.
and no revenge should never be the motive that kind of sentence.
I have had no problem with revenge for the murder of a loved one.... even years after the person was executed.
Zeelander: This is where a law need to be passed that if a person is wrongly put to death then their defense lawyer will be put to death for not performing to the standards needed to get their client acquitted.
more bloodshed?
Big_John: Excellent points, but none that I care about. I just want the dude dead. Period.
You certainly do.
velvetUG: whoa!!! there have been thousands of people who were wrongly convicted and executed for crimes they didnt commmit in the USA, and DNA testing has proven it after execution
All I heard from Wikipedia is that the Death Penalty Information Center has published a list of 8 inmates "executed but possibly innocent", but none of them has yet had his innocence recognized by any court. 
This doesn't mean that they were innocent but that there is only a possibility that they were, and this needs to be confirmed by the courts.Also, even though the DNA evidence has released around 15 death row inmates, it has not proved that even one was executed
And since the DNA evidence is available in only a fraction of capital cases, how could it prove that thousands of wrongly convicted were exectuted?Guyfromdenmark: You certainly do.
Something we can agree on. Thanks you.
Like I've said before and I'll say it again that if it's a case of someone raping/killing women and children yes I believe in the death penalty.
Providing that said person was 100% without a doubt guilty.And especially if that person is caught in the act of doing that particular crime cause then there's no doubt that he did it.
I'm smart enough to realize that DNA testing can sometimes be wrong and the wrong person have been convicted of the crime.I'm also smart enough to realize that putting someone to death will not bring someone loved one back but...it's obvious to me that once the person(s) are found 100% guilty of a crime and put to death that they won't be committing anymore of those kinds of crimes.
Providing that said person was 100% without a doubt guilty.And especially if that person is caught in the act of doing that particular crime cause then there's no doubt that he did it.
I'm smart enough to realize that DNA testing can sometimes be wrong and the wrong person have been convicted of the crime.I'm also smart enough to realize that putting someone to death will not bring someone loved one back but...it's obvious to me that once the person(s) are found 100% guilty of a crime and put to death that they won't be committing anymore of those kinds of crimes.
Fallingman: I assume this is a joke?
No, I wasn't joking, there is no evidence that has been recognized by the courts of a single execution of a wrongfully accused
lots of people claim to have evidence though, they just need to go to court and prove it.velvetUG: SCROLL DOWN TO EXECUTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE
I see two, but were they innocent.... truly innocent? Were they involved?
Why is it that those that live in a penal colony want all criminals released?
velvetUG: more bloodshed?
I look at it more as population reduction.
cameraman: All I heard from Wikipedia is that the Death Penalty Information Center has published a list of 8 inmates "executed but possibly innocent", but none of them has yet had his innocence recognized by any court. This doesn't mean that they were innocent but that there is only a possibility that they were, and this needs to be confirmed by the courts.
Also, even though the DNA evidence has released around 15 death row inmates, it has not proved that even one was executed And since the DNA evidence is available in only a fraction of capital cases, how could it prove that thousands of wrongly convicted were exectuted?
Also, even though the DNA evidence has released around 15 death row inmates, it has not proved that even one was executed And since the DNA evidence is available in only a fraction of capital cases, how could it prove that thousands of wrongly convicted were exectuted?
I have to admit I thought that your argument that an infallible system exists was a troll. Now that I realize that's not the case, I'm not quite sure what to say.
There are prisoners who have been exonerated, which basically makes your argument that the courts can make mistakes only until the sentance is carried out.
cameraman: No, I wasn't joking, there is no evidence that has been recognized by the courts of a single execution of a wrongfully accused lots of people claim to have evidence though, they just need to go to court and prove it.
Yea, being dead makes it awfully hard to contest.
I think that there should be one that holds the justice scale and I believe he is the almighty...
jessejess47: how would you know this
Hundreds have been executed None proven wrongfully accused, 100% accuracyGuyfromdenmark: Yea, being dead makes it awfully hard to contest.
Actually no it doesn't. In the united states, cases are reopened all the time for people who would still be dead for 50 years if they were allowed to live their full life.
dpitt8888: I think that there should be one that holds the justice scale and I believe he is the almighty...
Then do you believe that all jail cell doors should be opened and all convicted released?
Guyfromdenmark: I have to admit I thought that your argument that an infallible system exists was a troll. Now that I realize that's not the case, I'm not quite sure what to say.
There are prisoners who have been exonerated, which basically makes your argument that the courts can make mistakes only until the sentance is carried out.
There are prisoners who have been exonerated, which basically makes your argument that the courts can make mistakes only until the sentance is carried out.
I didn't say the court didn't make mistakes in conviction, which has been proven
But what has not been proven is that a wrongfully accused has been executed.
I actually believe in the death penalty and I'm not even a republican 
Maybe if there was truth in sentencing, I could live with life sentences, but because there is no truth in sentencing, I cannot justify seing a proven murderer being let out after 10 years or less because some "expert" says he/she is fit to reenter socity or because the jails are full and the communities can't/won't spend the money for new ones or invest in proper mental health institutions. Too many reoffenders, esp. among the p*dophile who, as we know, cannot be treated or cured. Too few facilities to treat criminals, too little pay for social workers, etc.
I'm not buying the argument that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and I don't buy the argument that society has no right to act in retribution/revenge. I think it does act as a deterrent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong in society exercising "revenge." Society also has the duty to protect those who have not yet fallen victim to violent crime.
Maybe if there was truth in sentencing, I could live with life sentences, but because there is no truth in sentencing, I cannot justify seing a proven murderer being let out after 10 years or less because some "expert" says he/she is fit to reenter socity or because the jails are full and the communities can't/won't spend the money for new ones or invest in proper mental health institutions. Too many reoffenders, esp. among the p*dophile who, as we know, cannot be treated or cured. Too few facilities to treat criminals, too little pay for social workers, etc.
I'm not buying the argument that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and I don't buy the argument that society has no right to act in retribution/revenge. I think it does act as a deterrent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong in society exercising "revenge." Society also has the duty to protect those who have not yet fallen victim to violent crime.
Guyfromdenmark: Yea, being dead makes it awfully hard to contest.
Even if they were alive they still will find it be hard for them to contest
Only additional evidence or testamony from someone else will the courts listen too.cameraman: I didn't say the court didn't make mistakes in conviction, which has been proven But what has not been proven is that a wrongfully accused has been executed.
That's fine, as long as we can agree that:
1. A court rules on its findings, and may or may not coresspond with what actually happened.
2. That the fact that none have been proven does not rule them out.
velvetUG: SCROLL DOWN TO EXECUTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE
This is about a highly controversial debate about the death penalty
Strong arguments are being made from both sides, thus it's not an open and shut case, yet
Zeelander: Actually no it doesn't. In the united states, cases are reopened all the time for people who would still be dead for 50 years if they were allowed to live their full life.
My Brother was Murdered in New, Orleans, in 1980 driving a Taxi, I do believe in the death sentence, but i also saw a victory of watching the Killer ride in a Wheelchair for 19 years, then went to court and was aqitted, and Then Died, 20 yrs later from Trying to kill me, as I knew too much! This Story is so true , I live hell over it , and the story is very long and strung out , that i dont care to open this story today as have other things to do later, and i walked something her , that change My life , AND HIS Forever..... As he Tried to kill me, and stalked me as i solved the Mystery, they came to kill me. Thay trapped me, They Blocked me in and left me only one Choice.... LIVE , Or Die....
I chose to live, such a sad story that i lived, but he left me no choice but to fight back.... Thats when he got into a wheelchair for 19 years Paralised, from his chest Down..... Unless you walked this road, and Faced it, you dont havbe much other than an Opinion!
Guyfromdenmark: That's fine, as long as we can agree that:
1. A court rules on its findings, and may or may not coresspond with what actually happened.
2. That the fact that none have been proven does not rule them out.
1. A court rules on its findings, and may or may not coresspond with what actually happened.
2. That the fact that none have been proven does not rule them out.
AgreedScubadiva: I actually believe in the death penalty and I'm not even a republican
Maybe if there was truth in sentencing, I could live with life sentences, but because there is no truth in sentencing, I cannot justify seing a proven murderer being let out after 10 years or less because some "expert" says he/she is fit to reenter socity or because the jails are full and the communities can't/won't spend the money for new ones or invest in proper mental health institutions. Too many reoffenders, esp. among the p*dophile who, as we know, cannot be treated or cured. Too few facilities to treat criminals, too little pay for social workers, etc.
I'm not buying the argument that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and I don't buy the argument that society has no right to act in retribution/revenge. I think it does act as a deterrent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong in society exercising "revenge." Society also has the duty to protect those who have not yet fallen victim to violent crime.
Maybe if there was truth in sentencing, I could live with life sentences, but because there is no truth in sentencing, I cannot justify seing a proven murderer being let out after 10 years or less because some "expert" says he/she is fit to reenter socity or because the jails are full and the communities can't/won't spend the money for new ones or invest in proper mental health institutions. Too many reoffenders, esp. among the p*dophile who, as we know, cannot be treated or cured. Too few facilities to treat criminals, too little pay for social workers, etc.
I'm not buying the argument that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and I don't buy the argument that society has no right to act in retribution/revenge. I think it does act as a deterrent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong in society exercising "revenge." Society also has the duty to protect those who have not yet fallen victim to violent crime.
Are you sure you aren't a republican?
Scubadiva: I actually believe in the death penalty and I'm not even a republican
Maybe if there was truth in sentencing, I could live with life sentences, but because there is no truth in sentencing, I cannot justify seing a proven murderer being let out after 10 years or less because some "expert" says he/she is fit to reenter socity or because the jails are full and the communities can't/won't spend the money for new ones or invest in proper mental health institutions. Too many reoffenders, esp. among the p*dophile who, as we know, cannot be treated or cured. Too few facilities to treat criminals, too little pay for social workers, etc.
I'm not buying the argument that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and I don't buy the argument that society has no right to act in retribution/revenge. I think it does act as a deterrent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong in society exercising "revenge." Society also has the duty to protect those who have not yet fallen victim to violent crime.
Maybe if there was truth in sentencing, I could live with life sentences, but because there is no truth in sentencing, I cannot justify seing a proven murderer being let out after 10 years or less because some "expert" says he/she is fit to reenter socity or because the jails are full and the communities can't/won't spend the money for new ones or invest in proper mental health institutions. Too many reoffenders, esp. among the p*dophile who, as we know, cannot be treated or cured. Too few facilities to treat criminals, too little pay for social workers, etc.
I'm not buying the argument that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and I don't buy the argument that society has no right to act in retribution/revenge. I think it does act as a deterrent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong in society exercising "revenge." Society also has the duty to protect those who have not yet fallen victim to violent crime.
cameraman: This is about a highly controversial debate about the death penalty Strong arguments are being made from both sides, thus it's not an open and shut case, yet
god i hate quoting wiki, but i'm to tired to find my glasses and proper resources
HotrodLarrys: My Brother was Murdered in New, Orleans, in 1980 driving a Taxi, I do believe in the death sentence, but i also saw a victory of watching the Killer ride in a Wheelchair for 19 years, then went to court and was aqitted, and Then Died, 20 yrs later from Trying to kill me, as I knew too much! This Story is so true , I live hell over it , and the story is very long and strung out , that i dont care to open this story today as have other things to do later, and i walked something her , that change My life , AND HIS Forever..... As he Tried to kill me, and stalked me as i solved the Mystery, they came to kill me. Thay trapped me, They Blocked me in and left me only one Choice.... LIVE , Or Die....
I chose to live, such a sad story that i lived, but he left me no choice but to fight back.... Thats when he got into a wheelchair for 19 years Paralised, from his chest Down..... Unless you walked this road, and Faced it, you dont havbe much other than an Opinion!
I chose to live, such a sad story that i lived, but he left me no choice but to fight back.... Thats when he got into a wheelchair for 19 years Paralised, from his chest Down..... Unless you walked this road, and Faced it, you dont havbe much other than an Opinion!
thats right......but we're allowed to have it right??
unlike yours, there have been many cases where victims families have spoken of deep regret that the cycle of killing has not stopped
i believe in locking them up and throwing away the key
velvetUG: god i hate quoting wiki, but i'm to tired to find my glasses and proper resources
There is a simple answer to this..... "Oops"
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quite often those left behind feel deep emptyness in regards to the perpretator being executed
it is a continuation of a vicious cycle.
and no revenge should never be the motive that kind of sentence.
Excellent points, but none that I care about. I just want the dude dead. Period.