Do you honestly think that the bleeding hearts in Washington DC would ever execute everyone on death row? Hell, the ones they do kill get a lethal injection with a sterile needle.
I say either execute them all or free them... I am tired of paying for them.
Some of our states are doing away with the death penalty because they state that it cost more to house an inmate on death row than to imprison an inmate for life. Therefore, the states that have done away with the death penalty at this time are simply housing our inmates for life. This is where mandatory release may come into play. Each state has it's own way of handling sentencing. In some cases, a life sentence doesn't mean life. I watched a case study based, I believe, in Florida where a serial killer was released on mandatory release. He had brutally murdered 17 people. When he was release, he went right back out and started murdering again. I can't understand how he was released in the first place.
woodzchick: Some of our states are doing away with the death penalty because they state that it cost more to house an inmate on death row than to imprison an inmate for life. Therefore, the states that have done away with the death penalty at this time are simply housing our inmates for life. This is where mandatory release may come into play. Each state has it's own way of handling sentencing. In some cases, a life sentence doesn't mean life. I watched a case study based, I believe, in Florida where a serial killer was released on mandatory release. He had brutally murdered 17 people. When he was release, he went right back out and started murdering again. I can't understand how he was released in the first place.
Welcome to America.
Actually the state was hoping he was going to go after the elderly to cut down on the benefits the state would have to pay out.
Zeelander: The death penalty is a cure for over crowded prisons... it make room by putting them in the ground rather than a jail cell, plus they won't be escaping from the ground.
Preventing crime has never prevented crime. Since day one the government has tried to prevent crime... has crime stopped?
Counseling doesn't put food on the table or drugs in a persons system for a lot of inmate.... but crime does.
There are a lot of Benefits to committing major crime. You get a home, three meals a day, free education, no taxes, free membership to a gym, free cable TV and the list is endless. I would consider pushing my kids into a life of crime so I don't have to pay for college and after they serve their 3 to 5 and parole, they could have a wonderful life making a load of money in Europe.
Then why not burn them out by dozens, isn't it fast? Yep, drive them into the gas chamber and enjoy the silence Strange, while the whole world step by step goes towards elimination of death penalty, you keep going the same way
woodzchick: Some of our states are doing away with the death penalty because they state that it cost more to house an inmate on death row than to imprison an inmate for life. Therefore, the states that have done away with the death penalty at this time are simply housing our inmates for life. This is where mandatory release may come into play. Each state has it's own way of handling sentencing. In some cases, a life sentence doesn't mean life. I watched a case study based, I believe, in Florida where a serial killer was released on mandatory release. He had brutally murdered 17 people. When he was release, he went right back out and started murdering again. I can't understand how he was released in the first place.
Agree, those states that do not have the death penalty may parole murderers back onto the streets That's why I'm glad Florida still has the death penalty.
gingerb: Killing the perpetrator of a murder does not bring the victim back, nor does it ease the bereavement process of the family members of the victim.
Justice, in my book, does not include becoming a killer myself even by proxy........
I agree with you that there are more reasons for people going out and committing crimes other than them just being evil. For the mental illness part, that is some of the other excuses that people in class have thrown my way. They claim that nobody in their right mind would do such things-that they must be mentally ill. I don't agree with that. I mean -yeah-somethings not right, but I wouldn't say that they're mentally ill and need to be locked up in a mental ward. Also, you are right about poverty and lack of options affecting the crime. This is the only life that some people know. I don't have the "Kill Them All mentality. I do believe that our system could use some adjustments to better serve our country. As for the rope from the tree- it worked in the old west just fine. I know-even my professor said that I sounded "cold blooded." I guess I feel that way because I see people that continue to go out and commit brutal crimes to innocent people. I really don't see such a big difference between the methods. I mean, think about it, electric chair, being gassed to death, or a quick drop from the tree. I do have to disagree with you on the death penalty not helping with the problem of overcrowded prisons. If the very violent, repeat offenders were executed, there would be more room. The new laws that are being passed are a great start, but they also lead to more crowding in the prisons. There's no easy solution to these problems.
Well, I tried to respond a little more delicately, but I think you pretty much summed it up.
Zeelander: The death penalty is a cure for over crowded prisons... it make room by putting them in the ground rather than a jail cell, plus they won't be escaping from the ground.
Preventing crime has never prevented crime. Since day one the government has tried to prevent crime... has crime stopped?
Counseling doesn't put food on the table or drugs in a persons system for a lot of inmate.... but crime does.
There are a lot of Benefits to committing major crime. You get a home, three meals a day, free education, no taxes, free membership to a gym, free cable TV and the list is endless. I would consider pushing my kids into a life of crime so I don't have to pay for college and after they serve their 3 to 5 and parole, they could have a wonderful life making a load of money in Europe.
jessejess47: nope sure don't, murder is murder weather it is legal or not
i don't support the death penalty. too many cases of wrongly accused, wrongly convicted. the cost of death penalty cases is $ that could be spent elsewhere. i agree that the system needs change, but i don't have the answers.
steve6611Victor Harbor, South Australia Australia1,767 posts
coasty1978: I believe in the death penalty for muderers especaily child killers as I don't think the public should have pay to house animals like that.
actually even though I am in 2 minds about the death penalty. I do appreciate & understand your feelings because where children are concerned
strongly against it, too many mistakes in legal process... on the other hand I believe prison time should be much harder time, especially for crimes which involve violence, not mini holidays. The French and Russians had the right idea with penal camps and gulags... and life sentences should mean life sentences.
jetdevil2001: Then why not burn them out by dozens, isn't it fast? Yep, drive them into the gas chamber and enjoy the silence Strange, while the whole world step by step goes towards elimination of death penalty, you keep going the same way
gingerb: Killing the perpetrator of a murder does not bring the victim back, nor does it ease the bereavement process of the family members of the victim.
Justice, in my book, does not include becoming a killer myself even by proxy........
Are you willing to take them into your house, clothe them feed them and just take care of them?
I am tired of paying for them. It would be nice for y'all to pay me to sit around and do nothing.
Email me and I will reply with my PO Box where y'all can send me checks or cash and I didn't hurt or kill anyone for the support.
jono7: i don't support the death penalty. too many cases of wrongly accused, wrongly convicted. the cost of death penalty cases is $ that could be spent elsewhere. i agree that the system needs change, but i don't have the answers.
Are you willing to take them into your home or country?
George625: strongly against it, too many mistakes in legal process... on the other hand I believe prison time should be much harder time, especially for crimes which involve violence, not mini holidays. The French and Russians had the right idea with penal camps and gulags... and life sentences should mean life sentences.
So, you believe in torture rather than ending their miserable life? This I don't understand.
SuzyJThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands214 posts
There seems to be a lot of focus on what happens to the innocents accused and sentenced to die here but I don't really get the logic - ok, so a few innocent people die/d but doesn't anyone realise that by allowing monsters to live and potentially roam the earth to reoffend you are sentencing many more innocents, men, women and children to hours of torture, mutilation and eventually death? The people who are often sentenced to die have overwhelming evidence against them for committing a henious crime, and in many cases are repeated offenders - child abusers, rapists and murderers - so I reckon that when you tally up the toll on innocent lives its a lot higher letting these people out on eventual parole and allowing them to reoffend.
Innocents only receive the death penalty when the legal system is not sound or when there is corruption involved.
The way I see it innocent people are gonna die one way or another - personally I'd rather take the chance of picking the wrong man/woman than living with the burden of knowing that I set a monster loose again into the world to torture more people.
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I wonder why this sounds to me so very close to lynching...