no i dont believe in it.....way too many innocent people have been locked, and such a high prevelance of mentally ill people conduct the unfortunate and devastating crimes.....
however, if anyone came to harm my family i'd shooot the mf's so dead, their fee wouldnt touch the ground
Yes, I would rather them be killed than pay for them to rot in jail for a lifetime. If you are wrongly accused, you are still going to jail for the rest of your life if you would have qualified for the death penalty. I would rather die than live in jail until I die. Kill 'em all.
I do believe in the death penalty; however, I would eliminate state paid lawyers; eliminate years of appeals; and, ensure it happens shortly after the conviction.
Big_John: I do believe in the death penalty; however, I would eliminate state paid lawyers; eliminate years of appeals; and, ensure it happens shortly after the conviction.
well I guess it was bound to happen John ....I can't agree with you on this one ole boy.....
jessejess47: well I guess it was bound to happen John ....I can't agree with you on this one ole boy.....
It is okay to agree to disagree. Right now my opinion will never happen. As long as states pay lawyers to defend the convicted, there will be years, and years, and years of appeals. There are almost no death penalties carried out in most states. Only a very few do it.
Big_John: It is okay to agree to disagree. Right now my opinion will never happen. As long as states pay lawyers to defend the convicted, there will be years, and years, and years of appeals. There are almost no death penalties carried out in most states. Only a very few do it.
clara1956Punta Arenas, Magallanes Region Chile1,426 posts
There is no death penalty in my country - Chile- anymore.It never succeeded in deterring people from commiting crimes, anyway. I think inprisonment for life (and Chilean jails are not exactly five-star hotels) with no possibility of ever going out again is punishment enough.
I just love reading from those who are against the death penalty as long as someone else suffered But are willing to make an exception and want the murderer killed only when they suffered personally
roseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK8,699 posts
cameraman: I just love reading from those who are against the death penalty as long as someone else suffered But are willing to make an exception and want the murderer killed only when they suffered personally
Indeed! No doubt, that is why we have a judicial process in place whereby the punishment befits the crime, regardless of WHO has committed it? A system that is in no way perfect but strives to be as fair and equal as is possible?
roseofsharon: Indeed! No doubt, that is why we have a judicial process in place whereby the punishment befits the crime, regardless of WHO has committed it? A system that is in no way perfect but strives to be as fair and equal as is possible?
True. Don't want a bunch of vigilantes taking justice into their own hand But is the death penalty a just punishment for murderers is what were trying to understand
roseofsharon: Indeed! No doubt, that is why we have a judicial process in place whereby the punishment befits the crime, regardless of WHO has committed it? A system that is in no way perfect but strives to be as fair and equal as is possible?
Then maybe the law should be changed and we just kill them all.... equal justice.
roseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK8,699 posts
Zeelander: Then maybe the law should be changed and we just kill them all.... equal justice.
Well, the process in place is a democratic one. The only way to change it would be democratically. Why is one acceptable and not the other? Duuhhh...
Why leave it at just people committing crimes? I'm sure there's much to be said for some kind of penalty being afforded to those with the mental agility of, say, a soup-spoon?!! Mmmmm.... would get MY vote.
cameraman: I just love reading from those who are against the death penalty as long as someone else suffered But are willing to make an exception and want the murderer killed only when they suffered personally
i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accused
velvetUG: i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accused
Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.
roseofsharon: Well, the process in place is a democratic one. The only way to change it would be democratically. Why is one acceptable and not the other? Duuhhh...
Why leave it at just people committing crimes? I'm sure there's much to be said for some kind of penalty being afforded to those with the mental agility of, say, a soup-spoon?!! Mmmmm.... would get MY vote.
Ohhh yeah..... VOTE = DEMOCRACY
Pathetic!!
As opposed to voting = Totalitarianism
Then no one has the ability or the authority to think for themselves.
gingerb: Killing the perpetrator of a murder does not bring the victim back, nor does it ease the bereavement process of the family members of the victim.
Justice, in my book, does not include becoming a killer myself even by proxy........
I agree.
Also, catching and punishing criminals including murderers is not about the families of victims it is about society. Revenge is not a civilized way to run a justice system.
Killing is killing. For the State to do it is worse. The State has no excuse.
cameraman: Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.
cameraman: Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.
cameraman: Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.
whoa!!! there have been thousands of people who were wrongly convicted and executed for crimes they didnt commmit in the USA, and DNA testing has proven it after execution
Aug 1, 2009 10:02 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
GuyfromdenmarkReykjavik, Capital Region Iceland24 Posts
GuyfromdenmarkReykjavik, Capital Region Iceland24 posts
Big_John: What I find tragic is the lack of concern for the ones that were killed by these people.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the death penalty at all. Are you saying that the only way to care for victims is to murder someone else? Because that makes no sense at all.
The whole public execution, or "on TV every saturday" is a terribly hateful and bitter way of administering justice, luckily limited to mostly third world countries.
Also, catching and punishing criminals including murderers is not about the families of victims it is about society. Revenge is not a civilized way to run a justice system.
Killing is killing. For the State to do it is worse. The State has no excuse.
it does send out a subconsciously devolvement of the human psyche when this state sanctioned behaviour is allowed to occur.
Guyfromdenmark: I'm not sure what that has to do with the death penalty at all. Are you saying that the only way to care for victims is to murder someone else? Because that makes no sense at all.
The whole public execution, or "on TV every saturday" is a terribly hateful and bitter way of administering justice, luckily limited to mostly third world countries.
This is what is nice about this world. We all can have different opinion and different actions. The world doesn't have to fit your or mine way of doing things uniformly. There is no one 'right' way of doing anything.
I truly believe in the death penalty and continue to do so.
Big_John: This is what is nice about this world. We all can have different opinion and different actions. The world doesn't have to fit your or mine way of doing things uniformly. There is no one 'right' way of doing anything.
I truly believe in the death penalty and continue to do so.
IF it brought back the victim and stopped the autocratic sadness that often victims loved ones feel, then yes i would be for it
quite often those left behind feel deep emptyness in regards to the perpretator being executed
it is a continuation of a vicious cycle.
and no revenge should never be the motive that kind of sentence.
velvetUG: i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accused
This is where a law need to be passed that if a person is wrongly put to death then their defense lawyer will be put to death for not performing to the standards needed to get their client acquitted.
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however, if anyone came to harm my family i'd shooot the mf's so dead, their fee wouldnt touch the ground