Do you believe in the death penalty? (317)

Jul 28, 2009 10:39 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
velvetUG
velvetUGvelvetUGmelbourne, Victoria Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 763 Posts
no i dont believe in it.....way too many innocent people have been locked, and such a high prevelance of mentally ill people conduct the unfortunate and devastating crimes.....


however, if anyone came to harm my family i'd shooot the mf's so dead, their fee wouldnt touch the groundwine
Jul 28, 2009 11:02 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Buckg73
Buckg73Buckg73Any, New Providence Bahamas1 Threads 198 Posts
Yes, I would rather them be killed than pay for them to rot in jail for a lifetime. If you are wrongly accused, you are still going to jail for the rest of your life if you would have qualified for the death penalty. I would rather die than live in jail until I die. Kill 'em all.
Jul 28, 2009 11:03 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
I do believe in the death penalty; however, I would eliminate state paid lawyers; eliminate years of appeals; and, ensure it happens shortly after the conviction.
Jul 28, 2009 11:04 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
I think we should just go back to a more civilized era and start using the Iron Maiden again .....rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 28, 2009 11:10 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
Big_John: I do believe in the death penalty; however, I would eliminate state paid lawyers; eliminate years of appeals; and, ensure it happens shortly after the conviction.
well I guess it was bound to happen John ....I can't agree with you on this one ole boy.....handshake
Jul 28, 2009 11:13 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
jessejess47: well I guess it was bound to happen John ....I can't agree with you on this one ole boy.....


It is okay to agree to disagree. Right now my opinion will never happen. As long as states pay lawyers to defend the convicted, there will be years, and years, and years of appeals. There are almost no death penalties carried out in most states. Only a very few do it.
Jul 28, 2009 11:14 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
Big_John: It is okay to agree to disagree. Right now my opinion will never happen. As long as states pay lawyers to defend the convicted, there will be years, and years, and years of appeals. There are almost no death penalties carried out in most states. Only a very few do it.
well there ya go....handshake
Jul 31, 2009 9:47 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
clara1956
clara1956clara1956Punta Arenas, Magallanes Region Chile37 Threads 1 Polls 1,426 Posts
There is no death penalty in my country - Chile- anymore.It never succeeded in deterring people from commiting crimes, anyway. I think inprisonment for life (and Chilean jails are not exactly five-star hotels) with no possibility of ever going out again is punishment enough.
Aug 1, 2009 7:48 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
laugh I just love reading from those who are against the death penalty as long as someone else suffered conversing But are willing to make an exception and want the murderer killed only when they suffered personally
Aug 1, 2009 8:06 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
cameraman: I just love reading from those who are against the death penalty as long as someone else suffered But are willing to make an exception and want the murderer killed only when they suffered personally


Indeed! No doubt, that is why we have a judicial process in place whereby the punishment befits the crime, regardless of WHO has committed it? A system that is in no way perfect but strives to be as fair and equal as is possible?

thumbs up
Aug 1, 2009 8:24 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
roseofsharon: Indeed! No doubt, that is why we have a judicial process in place whereby the punishment befits the crime, regardless of WHO has committed it? A system that is in no way perfect but strives to be as fair and equal as is possible?


thumbs up True. Don't want a bunch of vigilantes taking justice into their own hand conversing But is the death penalty a just punishment for murderers is what were trying to understand
Aug 1, 2009 8:56 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
roseofsharon: Indeed! No doubt, that is why we have a judicial process in place whereby the punishment befits the crime, regardless of WHO has committed it? A system that is in no way perfect but strives to be as fair and equal as is possible?


Then maybe the law should be changed and we just kill them all.... equal justice.grin
Aug 1, 2009 9:10 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
Zeelander: Then maybe the law should be changed and we just kill them all.... equal justice.


Well, the process in place is a democratic one. The only way to change it would be democratically. Why is one acceptable and not the other? Duuhhh... confused
doh

Why leave it at just people committing crimes? I'm sure there's much to be said for some kind of penalty being afforded to those with the mental agility of, say, a soup-spoon?!! Mmmmm.... would get MY vote.

Ohhh yeah..... VOTE = DEMOCRACY
roll eyes

Pathetic!!
Aug 1, 2009 9:45 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
velvetUG
velvetUGvelvetUGmelbourne, Victoria Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 763 Posts
cameraman: I just love reading from those who are against the death penalty as long as someone else suffered But are willing to make an exception and want the murderer killed only when they suffered personally


i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accusedgrin
Aug 1, 2009 9:48 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
I believe so much in the death penalty that I would have a special one every Saturday evening on TV.
Aug 1, 2009 9:50 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
velvetUG: i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accused


laugh Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily conversing Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.
Aug 1, 2009 9:55 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
roseofsharon: Well, the process in place is a democratic one. The only way to change it would be democratically. Why is one acceptable and not the other? Duuhhh...


Why leave it at just people committing crimes? I'm sure there's much to be said for some kind of penalty being afforded to those with the mental agility of, say, a soup-spoon?!! Mmmmm.... would get MY vote.

Ohhh yeah..... VOTE = DEMOCRACY


Pathetic!!


As opposed to voting = Totalitarianism

Then no one has the ability or the authority to think for themselves.

I vote Anarchy in a tribal format.
Aug 1, 2009 9:55 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Guyfromdenmark
GuyfromdenmarkGuyfromdenmarkReykjavik, Capital Region Iceland24 Posts
Big_John: I believe so much in the death penalty that I would have a special one every Saturday evening on TV.


I can't tell you how tragic I find this.
Aug 1, 2009 9:57 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
gingerb: Killing the perpetrator of a murder does not bring the victim back, nor does it ease the bereavement process of the family members of the victim.

Justice, in my book, does not include becoming a killer myself even by proxy........


I agree.

Also, catching and punishing criminals including murderers is not about the families of victims it is about society. Revenge is not a civilized way to run a justice system.

Killing is killing. For the State to do it is worse. The State has no excuse.
Aug 1, 2009 9:58 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
cameraman: Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.


I assume this is a joke?
Aug 1, 2009 9:58 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
velvetUG: i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accused
thumbs up
Aug 1, 2009 9:59 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
cameraman: Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.
how would you know this
doh
Aug 1, 2009 9:59 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
Guyfromdenmark: I can't tell you how tragic I find this.


What I find tragic is the lack of concern for the ones that were killed by these people.
Aug 1, 2009 10:01 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
velvetUG
velvetUGvelvetUGmelbourne, Victoria Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 763 Posts
cameraman: Even though I agree with you, in the USA we have an awesome justice system when it comes the death penalty, luckily Haven't executed the wrong one yet, 100% accuracy.


whoa!!! there have been thousands of people who were wrongly convicted and executed for crimes they didnt commmit in the USA, and DNA testing has proven it after execution

mumbling
Aug 1, 2009 10:02 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Guyfromdenmark
GuyfromdenmarkGuyfromdenmarkReykjavik, Capital Region Iceland24 Posts
Big_John: What I find tragic is the lack of concern for the ones that were killed by these people.


I'm not sure what that has to do with the death penalty at all. Are you saying that the only way to care for victims is to murder someone else? Because that makes no sense at all.

The whole public execution, or "on TV every saturday" is a terribly hateful and bitter way of administering justice, luckily limited to mostly third world countries.
Aug 1, 2009 10:06 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
velvetUG
velvetUGvelvetUGmelbourne, Victoria Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 763 Posts
Fallingman: I agree.

Also, catching and punishing criminals including murderers is not about the families of victims it is about society. Revenge is not a civilized way to run a justice system.

Killing is killing. For the State to do it is worse. The State has no excuse.



it does send out a subconsciously devolvement of the human psyche when this state sanctioned behaviour is allowed to occur.


i believe many people miss that pointthumbs up
Aug 1, 2009 10:07 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
Guyfromdenmark: I'm not sure what that has to do with the death penalty at all. Are you saying that the only way to care for victims is to murder someone else? Because that makes no sense at all.

The whole public execution, or "on TV every saturday" is a terribly hateful and bitter way of administering justice, luckily limited to mostly third world countries.


This is what is nice about this world. We all can have different opinion and different actions. The world doesn't have to fit your or mine way of doing things uniformly. There is no one 'right' way of doing anything.

I truly believe in the death penalty and continue to do so.
Aug 1, 2009 10:09 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
velvetUG
velvetUGvelvetUGmelbourne, Victoria Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 763 Posts
SCROLL DOWN TO EXECUTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE

Aug 1, 2009 10:15 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
velvetUG
velvetUGvelvetUGmelbourne, Victoria Australia9 Threads 1 Polls 763 Posts
Big_John: This is what is nice about this world. We all can have different opinion and different actions. The world doesn't have to fit your or mine way of doing things uniformly. There is no one 'right' way of doing anything.

I truly believe in the death penalty and continue to do so.



IF it brought back the victim and stopped the autocratic sadness that often victims loved ones feel, then yes i would be for it

quite often those left behind feel deep emptyness in regards to the perpretator being executed

it is a continuation of a vicious cycle.

and no revenge should never be the motive that kind of sentence.
Aug 1, 2009 10:16 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
velvetUG: i just love reading posts from people who could be wrongly accused of a crime, or had a beloved friend or relative be accused


This is where a law need to be passed that if a person is wrongly put to death then their defense lawyer will be put to death for not performing to the standards needed to get their client acquitted.
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