USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism? ( Archived) (27)

Sep 17, 2009 8:44 AM CSTUSA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech, Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts

USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?(Vote Below)

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Communicating with people who are from countries with much better iconomical status I start to think that the iconomical racialism exist.
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Sep 17, 2009 9:00 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
The west ís looking after itself as usual. Are you really surprised?
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Sep 17, 2009 9:12 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
scon1916: The west ís looking after itself as usual. Are you really surprised?
You state this like it is a bad thing.....lets be honest here ....I like the idea that my country is looking out for it's self and feel we should do so more and not worry about others so much. Some say that the U.S. is in the middle east because of oil,,,,duh of course we are and we damn well need to be...oil will only be here for a short while and every country in the world will want to be sure they are in the right spot. I don't always agree with our ways of doing this ,but am glad we are looking to our country's future. I know, I know the rich is looking to get richer and the war mongers are looking to get the oil blah blah blah blah But the truth be known it would good for any country to secure the oil fields for thier intrests. Ok now you go ahead and bash me for telling the truth.....rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing wave
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Sep 17, 2009 9:17 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
zax80: Your question means that you don't undestand the topic of the poll, you never been ignored because you are from somewhere or because you looks different, also it includes the material status.


How would you know that? Aren't you making a whole lot of assumptions?

I just make sure that I use the right words to say what I mean to say. By asking, I asked you to clarify what you mean rather than to assume what you mean.
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Sep 17, 2009 9:20 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
Scubadiva: How would you know that? Aren't you making a whole lot of assumptions?

I just make sure that I use the right words to say what I mean to say. By asking, I asked you to clarify what you mean rather than to assume what you mean.



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Sep 17, 2009 9:25 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts
Scubadiva: How would you know that? Aren't you making a whole lot of assumptions?

I just make sure that I use the right words to say what I mean to say. By asking, I asked you to clarify what you mean rather than to assume what you mean.


Yes I mean racisum, in the dictionary that word is racialism. I don't know what's more right to be typed but the meaning is one and the same.
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Sep 17, 2009 9:28 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
lights
lightslightsDenver, Colorado USA6 Threads 504 Posts
scon1916: The west ís looking after itself as usual. Are you really surprised?


ALL countries and ALL people pursue their own self interest.

AND, it has ALWAYS been that way.

Where have you been?
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Sep 17, 2009 9:49 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
morgan5
morgan5morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 Posts
Think what you are saying is, ppl judge others on the countries they come from, so if they come from a poorer country they are judged on that

Yes i think your right, and it is wrong.
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Sep 17, 2009 9:53 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts
Yes, you understand me very well thumbs up
I agree with you wine
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Sep 17, 2009 10:10 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
morgan5
morgan5morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 Posts
zax80: Yes, everyone is individual, none is responsible for the history or economical status of any location.
I have Turkish friends, when they met tourists in their country they found them warm and friendly, but when they left Turkey and visited other countries they could not understand why the people were so cold towards them. wine
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Sep 17, 2009 10:15 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80: Yes I mean racisum, in the dictionary that word is racialism. I don't know what's more right to be typed but the meaning is one and the same.
You really need to go back to the Drawing Board!
You're NOT making any Sense!mumbling
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Sep 17, 2009 10:17 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
morgan5
morgan5morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 Posts
Conrad73: You really need to go back to the Drawing Board!
You're NOT making any Sense!
wave Think the Op had a bit of difficulty explaining to us what he meant, but we got there in the end wine
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Sep 17, 2009 10:25 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts
morgan5: I have Turkish friends, when they met tourists in their country they found them warm and friendly, but when they left Turkey and visited other countries they could not understand why the people were so cold towards them.


Yes, it's true, I've seen it alot of times.
But it's not the same going to Russia, the Rissans are very friendly with us and we never been in union with them even in the times of communisam.
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Sep 17, 2009 10:27 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
zax80: Communicating with people who are from countries with much better iconomical status I start to think that the iconomical racialism exist.

One thing that ma have an effect on how your country is viewed, is for example, how many europeans travel to Bulgaria and then ask for financial/housing/medical help, without even trying to find work or learn the language.
On the other hand, how many people from the new eastern European countries travel to the UK and do exctlt that, receiving a house, money and various other aids, all without a days work.

That could well do with why some look at your country as a second class one.
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Sep 17, 2009 10:30 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
morgan5: Think the Op had a bit of difficulty explaining to us what he meant, but we got there in the end
Regardless,he is not making any sense,in the light what the EU is pumping into the new Memberstates!


Is that what he is complaining about?


Due to high-profile allegations of corruption, and an apparent lack of willingness to tackle high-level corruption, the European Union has partly frozen EU funds of about €450 million and may freeze more if Bulgarian authorities do not show solid progress in fighting corruption.WIKI

But Bulgaria is not that bad off economically.

Bulgaria, a former Communist country that entered the EU on 1 January 2007, has experienced strong growth since a major economic downturn in 1996. Successive governments have demonstrated a commitment to economic reforms and responsible fiscal planning, but have failed so far to rein in rising inflation and large current account deficits. Bulgaria has averaged more than 6% growth since 2004, attracting significant amounts of foreign direct investment, but corruption in the public administration, a weak judiciary, and the presence of organized crime remain significant challenges.CIA-Fact-Book


A lot of EU-Countries in Eastern Europe are considerably worse off.wave
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Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
JayJay01
JayJay01JayJay01London, Greater London, England UK1 Posts
frustrated ur talking sh**t........
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Sep 17, 2009 10:47 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts
I'm individual, I'm not responsible about the politics or about the history and none can say that got to be treated as persone second hand and say it's a business because of things like that.
Can I choice where to be borned?

So lets talk about history, someone else opened the history topic - don't you accept the fact that without Bulgaria, name of Europe, would not be Europe but something else, the yougurd that you eat would not exist, and now the computer the that you type on would not exist too, because the founder would not be borned. Also some of the countries now would be part Turkey.

wine
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Sep 17, 2009 11:00 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
The People's Republic of Bulgaria
Main article: People's Republic of Bulgaria

The Fatherland Front, a Communist-dominated political coalition, took over the government in 1944 and the Communist party increased its membership from 15,000 to 250,000 during the following six months. It established its rule with the coup d'état of September 9 that year. However, Bulgaria did not become a people's republic until 1946. It fell under the Soviet sphere of influence, with Georgi Dimitrov (Prime Minister 1946 to 1949) as the foremost Bulgarian political leader. The country installed a Soviet-type planned economy, although some market-oriented policies emerged on an experimental level under Todor Zhivkov (First Secretary, 1954 to 1989). By the mid 1950s standards of living rose significantly, and in 1957 collective farm workers benefited from the first agricultural-pension and welfare system in Eastern Europe. Todor Zhivkov dominated the country from 1956 to 1989, thus becoming one of the most estalished Eastern Bloc leaders. Zhivkov asserted Bulgaria's position as the most reliable Soviet ally, and increased its overall importance in the Comecon. His daughter Lyudmila Zhivkova became very popular in the country by promoting national heritage, culture and arts on a global scale. On the other hand, a forced assimilation campaign of the late 1980s directed against ethnic Turks resulted in the emigration of some 300,000 Bulgarian Turks to Turkey.This severly damaged Zhivkov's image and increased even more the already existing overall discontent with the stagnating system.[citation needed]

The People's Republic ended in 1989 as many Communist regimes in Eastern Europe, as well as the Soviet Union itself, began to collapse. Opposition forced Zhivkov and his right-hand man Milko Balev to give up their power on 10 November 1989.WIKI
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Sep 17, 2009 11:19 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts
Conrad73: The People's Republic of Bulgaria
Main article: People's Republic of Bulgaria

The Fatherland Front, a Communist-dominated political coalition, took over the government in 1944 and the Communist party increased its membership from 15,000 to 250,000 during the following six months. It established its rule with the coup d'état of September 9 that year. However, Bulgaria did not become a people's republic until 1946. It fell under the Soviet sphere of influence, with Georgi Dimitrov (Prime Minister 1946 to 1949) as the foremost Bulgarian political leader. The country installed a Soviet-type planned economy, although some market-oriented policies emerged on an experimental level under Todor Zhivkov (First Secretary, 1954 to 1989). By the mid 1950s standards of living rose significantly, and in 1957 collective farm workers benefited from the first agricultural-pension and welfare system in Eastern Europe. Todor Zhivkov dominated the country from 1956 to 1989, thus becoming one of the most estalished Eastern Bloc leaders. Zhivkov asserted Bulgaria's position as the most reliable Soviet ally, and increased its overall importance in the Comecon. His daughter Lyudmila Zhivkova became very popular in the country by promoting national heritage, culture and arts on a global scale. On the other hand, a forced assimilation campaign of the late 1980s directed against ethnic Turks resulted in the emigration of some 300,000 Bulgarian Turks to Turkey.This severly damaged Zhivkov's image and increased even more the already existing overall discontent with the stagnating system.[citation needed]

The People's Republic ended in 1989 as many Communist regimes in Eastern Europe, as well as the Soviet Union itself, began to collapse. Opposition forced Zhivkov and his right-hand man Milko Balev to give up their power on 10 November 1989.WIKI


Yes, communisam been in Bulgaria, also communisam been in many other countries, everyone knows how it happens. Why you talk about a politics and business, is it so valuable for you?
None can change the history or to be blamed about.

If you were borned in Africa or somewhere else, can you cnage it?
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Sep 17, 2009 11:21 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80: Yes, communisam been in Bulgaria, also communisam been in many other countries, everyone knows how it happens. Why you talk about a politics and business, is it so valuable for you?
None can change the history or to be blamed about.

If you were borned in Africa or somewhere else, can you cnage it?
That was my answer to some claims you made!grin
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Sep 17, 2009 11:27 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80
zax80zax80Troyan, Lovech Bulgaria8 Threads 8 Polls 33 Posts
Conrad73: That was my answer to some claims you made!


handshake okay one and the same thing but in a different views.
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Sep 17, 2009 11:28 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
zax80: okay one and the same thing but in a different views.
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Sep 21, 2009 7:19 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
gangel
gangelgangelPlovdiv, Bulgaria, Hampshire, England UK52 Threads 16 Polls 5,028 Posts
rizlared: One thing that ma have an effect on how your country is viewed, is for example, how many europeans travel to Bulgaria and then ask for financial/housing/medical help, without even trying to find work or learn the language.
On the other hand, how many people from the new eastern European countries travel to the UK and do exctlt that, receiving a house, money and various other aids, all without a days work.

That could well do with why some look at your country as a second class one.



May I ask if you EVER been to Bulgaria or lived there? As you are not relly that clear on things in the bulgarian hospitals and any other institutions..Talk only by your OWN experience and not what you have heard is my advice.

Who do you think you are to qualify Bulgaria as a second class country? dunno
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Sep 21, 2009 7:23 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
gangel: May I ask if you EVER been to Bulgaria or lived there? As you are not relly that clear on things in the bulgarian hospitals and any other institutions..Talk only by your OWN experience and not what you have heard is my advice.

Who do you think you are to qualify Bulgaria as a second class country?
there are many on CS that do that .....it get harder to take as time passesrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 21, 2009 7:28 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
gangel: May I ask if you EVER been to Bulgaria or lived there? As you are not relly that clear on things in the bulgarian hospitals and any other institutions..Talk only by your OWN experience and not what you have heard is my advice.

Who do you think you are to qualify Bulgaria as a second class country?


Yes as it happens I have been to Bulgaria, and I am talking from my experience.

Where does it say in my post that I think Bulgaria is second class? please, re-read my post I specifically said "SOME may think that". My view on that position is not in question, I am replying to the question posed by the OP as to why some class his/your country as second best.
That you have fine Hospitals and institutions is not in question, many Europeans travel to Bulgaria for medical treatment.

My point, is that many Eastern European citizens, including those from Bulgaria have a bad name in western Europe for taking financial aid from their new host country rather than giving.

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Sep 21, 2009 7:35 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
jessejess47: Finilly we agree on something .....I knew it was bound to happen sooner or later ......
sorry for the typos still a bit dark in my living roomlaugh
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Sep 21, 2009 7:45 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
gangel
gangelgangelPlovdiv, Bulgaria, Hampshire, England UK52 Threads 16 Polls 5,028 Posts
rizlared: Yes as it happens I have been to Bulgaria, and I am talking from my experience.

Where does it say in my post that I think Bulgaria is second class? please, re-read my post I specifically said "SOME may think that". My view on that position is not in question, I am replying to the question posed by the OP as to why some class his/your country as second best.
That you have fine Hospitals and institutions is not in question, many Europeans travel to Bulgaria for medical treatment.

My point, is that many Eastern European citizens, including those from Bulgaria have a bad name in western Europe for taking financial aid from their new host country rather than giving.



At least I am not one of those.

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Sep 21, 2009 8:06 AM CST USA and Western Europe are doing iconomical racialism?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
gangel: At least I am not one of those.


I am sure you're not, but as you also live in the UK you must be well aware of how many from certain Eastern countries (Not Yours) really take advantage of the UK welfare system, Also and this is the sad mentality of the greater population, very few indigenous Brits can or want to differentiate between these countries, the Polish who worked with me were always being told they were lazy Albanians for example, in my experience the Polish and indeed the few Bulgarians that I have worked with have shown to be far better and harder works than their British colleagues.cheers
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