Should Guns be allowed in the UK? (152)
People do have guns in the UK. There are strict rules and regulations for the people who keep them, but many people do have guns.
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No wolves in the UK for many years, not of the 4 legged variety anyway
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pastortim: For me, I love to hunt, I really like to go out and just blow stuff away with my guns (pop cans, bottles, targets of animals) and to keep up my good aim just in case I ever need it for self defense. I grew up with a gun, been shooting since I was 5 years old. I look at the UK and wonder why so many gave up their guns and if they ever voted on banning them or was it just a dictator saying give up their guns or not.
I wonder, what would it be like also if the people demanded to have their gun rights back, to own guns again and for the UK people to be able to go hunting again. I don't know what they do there to keep the deer population down, but someone has to shoot them or they just let wolves keep them at a sustainable level there?
Ok, perhaps I can wiki all this, but I want to hear it directly from the people who live there or have lived there and why they gave up their guns and their God given freedoms.
What is the story.
Do you want your guns back?
I wonder, what would it be like also if the people demanded to have their gun rights back, to own guns again and for the UK people to be able to go hunting again. I don't know what they do there to keep the deer population down, but someone has to shoot them or they just let wolves keep them at a sustainable level there?
Ok, perhaps I can wiki all this, but I want to hear it directly from the people who live there or have lived there and why they gave up their guns and their God given freedoms.
What is the story.
Do you want your guns back?
To give up something assumes we ever had it. We have never had a right to be armed. Most none crimalinal fraternity do not want guns. Our everyday police on the streets do not carry guns. We have special officers armed (armed response unit) that are very rarely needed. Never would we want Britain down that route of every potential idiot with east access to arms. Criminals have them and if I was in charge I am telling you anyone in possesion of guns illegally would get a mandatory life sentence. We dont have guns, never had guns and never want to have them. Silly idea to need them, as the above stated some do have them, usually farmers but very tight legislationon getting a licence, lets keep it this way.
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scousedon: To give up something assumes we ever had it. We have never had a right to be armed. Most none crimalinal fraternity do not want guns. Our everyday police on the streets do not carry guns. We have special officers armed (armed response unit) that are very rarely needed. Never would we want Britain down that route of every potential idiot with east access to arms. Criminals have them and if I was in charge I am telling you anyone in possesion of guns illegally would get a mandatory life sentence. We dont have guns, never had guns and never want to have them. Silly idea to need them, as the above stated some do have them, usually farmers but very tight legislationon getting a licence, lets keep it this way.
Try living in a metropolitan area here in the states..
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costagirl: No wolves in the UK for many years, not of the 4 legged variety anyway
I much prefer the 2 legged variety myself..
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HJFinAZ: Try living in a metropolitan area here in the states..
Ah but which is cause and which is effect of easy access to weapons.
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HJFinAZ: Try living in a metropolitan area here in the states..
And how many time have you HAD to shoot someone in your 'Large metropolitan here in the States"?
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pastortim: For me, I love to hunt, I really like to go out and just blow stuff away with my guns (pop cans, bottles, targets of animals) and to keep up my good aim just in case I ever need it for self defense. I grew up with a gun, been shooting since I was 5 years old. I look at the UK and wonder why so many gave up their guns and if they ever voted on banning them or was it just a dictator saying give up their guns or not.
I wonder, what would it be like also if the people demanded to have their gun rights back, to own guns again and for the UK people to be able to go hunting again. I don't know what they do there to keep the deer population down, but someone has to shoot them or they just let wolves keep them at a sustainable level there?
Ok, perhaps I can wiki all this, but I want to hear it directly from the people who live there or have lived there and why they gave up their guns and their God given freedoms.
What is the story.
Do you want your guns back?
It should not be allowed specialy in a drinker community ,where drunk peoples walks in the Clubs and markets ,it is harmful to keep a gun all the timesI wonder, what would it be like also if the people demanded to have their gun rights back, to own guns again and for the UK people to be able to go hunting again. I don't know what they do there to keep the deer population down, but someone has to shoot them or they just let wolves keep them at a sustainable level there?
Ok, perhaps I can wiki all this, but I want to hear it directly from the people who live there or have lived there and why they gave up their guns and their God given freedoms.
What is the story.
Do you want your guns back?
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I used to enjoy going shooting and made some great holsters too. The crowd of people I met were more than responsible - not all English people are irresponsible louts.
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trish123: I used to enjoy going shooting and made some great holsters too. The crowd of people I met were more than responsible - not all English people are irresponsible louts.
No one said they were, but hell who wants any of them roaming round the streets at weekends all thinking they are John Wayne after a few vodkas down them. No keep our streets gun free.
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Godsgift: Which two wars did the Brits lose?
The ones in his head
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scousedon: No one said they were, but hell who wants any of them roaming round the streets at weekends all thinking they are John Wayne after a few vodkas down them. No keep our streets gun free.
It didnt used to happen that way - people used their guns in galleries and licenses werent easy to get hold of - the owner and their premises were seriously checked out by the law etc.
The problem is as you say, with the irresponsible element of society and the lunatics but we get them in any society, armed or not.
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trish123: It didnt used to happen that way - people used their guns in galleries and licenses werent easy to get hold of - the owner and their premises were seriously checked out by the law etc.
The problem is as you say, with the irresponsible element of society and the lunatics but we get them in any society, armed or not.
The problem is as you say, with the irresponsible element of society and the lunatics but we get them in any society, armed or not.
Rather take my chances with them unarmed any day than. Yes I agree bone fide members of well licensed and policed shooting clubs I have no problem with. To have evry Tom, Dickand Harry have one under his/her matress is another kettle of fish.
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scousedon: Rather take my chances with them unarmed any day than. Yes I agree bone fide members of well licensed and policed shooting clubs I have no problem with. To have evry Tom, Dickand Harry have one under his/her matress is another kettle of fish.
but they have them anyway
theres loads of the things on criminal hands already
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scousedon: No one said they were, but hell who wants any of them roaming round the streets at weekends all thinking they are John Wayne after a few vodkas down them. No keep our streets gun free.
is it the vodka, or the gun?
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trish123: but they have them anyway
theres loads of the things on criminal hands already
theres loads of the things on criminal hands already
So then we should make more readilly available, well no thanks, lets clean up the guns we got here already and make sentences very tough for smugglers, illegal traders and those in possesion, nip it in the bud now, not open the flood gates for all and sundray. I think you would be in a very small minority of those advocating legislation of mass gun ownership in the UK.
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oranges2apples: is it the vodka, or the gun?
Not sure but don't like the combination.
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scousedon: maybe but we dont have a gun culture albeit in the depths of low life drug dealing but generally the streets are safer without hem, remember we were not born into a culture of gun ownership so why create this culture now.
Why create a culture, you mean one where the criminals have guns and the citizens aren't allowed to? Seems like I read somewhere a few months ago about your crime rate increasing at a rapid rate, wonder why? Maybe it's because criminals know citizens there can't defend themselves.
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scousedon: Not sure but don't like the combination.
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scousedon: Ah but which is cause and which is effect of easy access to weapons.
I live in a medium sized community, there are guns all over the place, keep reading about people being stabbed, gotta get rid of those knives. O, and cars to, lots more people killed in auto accidents than by guns.
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duckrew: Why create a culture, you mean one where the criminals have guns and the citizens aren't allowed to? Seems like I read somewhere a few months ago about your crime rate increasing at a rapid rate, wonder why? Maybe it's because criminals know citizens there can't defend themselves.
Where exactly did you read that?
Here are some significant crime statistics from our most recent research, Crime in England and Wales 2008-09:
* the number of police recorded crimes fell by 5% between 2007-08 and 2008-09
* police recorded 6% fewer violent against the person offences, 10% fewer vandalism offences and 10% fewer offences against vehicles, but home burglaries have increased by 1%
* the risk of becoming a victim of crime as measured by the BCS rose from 22% to 23%, but is well below its peak of 40% in 1995
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It's not guns that kill people, it's people that kill guns- I mean people
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scousedon: So then we should make more readilly available, well no thanks, lets clean up the guns we got here already and make sentences very tough for smugglers, illegal traders and those in possesion, nip it in the bud now, not open the flood gates for all and sundray. I think you would be in a very small minority of those advocating legislation of mass gun ownership in the UK.
Dont put words in my mouth - i didnt say they should be readily available.
I just cant talk to you if you are gonna get yr knickers in a twist
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Noooooooo Waaaaayyyy
NO GUNS FOR US THANK YOU
NO GUNS FOR US THANK YOU
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trish123: Dont put words in my mouth - i didnt say they should be readily available.
I just cant talk to you if you are gonna get yr knickers in a twist
I just cant talk to you if you are gonna get yr knickers in a twist
Well arms licences are available in UK for farmers, certified members of clubs that have to prove they are damn secure. So what are you advocating then, because other than that I see no justifiasble reason to allow freedom of arms.
Sorry you dont like my stance but I feel I am represetative of most Brits with the idea that more guns = more trouble. Why create this scenario for no justifiable need.
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bodleing: Where exactly did you read that?
Here are some significant crime statistics from our most recent research, Crime in England and Wales 2008-09:
* the number of police recorded crimes fell by 5% between 2007-08 and 2008-09
* police recorded 6% fewer violent against the person offences, 10% fewer vandalism offences and 10% fewer offences against vehicles, but home burglaries have increased by 1%
* the risk of becoming a victim of crime as measured by the BCS rose from 22% to 23%, but is well below its peak of 40% in 1995http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime-victims/crime-statistics/
Here are some significant crime statistics from our most recent research, Crime in England and Wales 2008-09:
* the number of police recorded crimes fell by 5% between 2007-08 and 2008-09
* police recorded 6% fewer violent against the person offences, 10% fewer vandalism offences and 10% fewer offences against vehicles, but home burglaries have increased by 1%
* the risk of becoming a victim of crime as measured by the BCS rose from 22% to 23%, but is well below its peak of 40% in 1995http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime-victims/crime-statistics/
I'm not sure where I read it, as I said it was months ago. I've read it in more than one place anyway. Look at your figures, 6% less assault charges, that's good, doesn't require a gun though, 10% fewer vandalism offenses, guns not needed there either, 10% fewer offenses against vehicles, hardly ever hear of anyone shooting a car, home burglaries up by 1%, if home owners had guns that figure would be down also. Are the people reporting these stats partial? Bet they're wanting more money to fight ctime even when they say it's not the problem it used to be.
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Godsgift: Which two wars did the Brits lose?
He should have said would have lost. If it wasn't for the US German would be the language there and in many other countries.
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scousedon: Well arms licences are available in UK for farmers, certified members of clubs that have to prove they are damn secure. So what are you advocating then, because other than that I see no justifiasble reason to allow freedom of arms.
Sorry you dont like my stance but I feel I am represetative of most Brits with the idea that more guns = more trouble. Why create this scenario for no justifiable need.
Sorry you dont like my stance but I feel I am represetative of most Brits with the idea that more guns = more trouble. Why create this scenario for no justifiable need.
Im basically saying that the responsible gun users lost out when the laws changed but little impact was made on the criminal front.
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duckrew: He should have said would have lost. If it wasn't for the US German would be the language there and in many other countries.
Oh shush
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duckrew: He should have said would have lost. If it wasn't for the US German would be the language there and in many other countries.
Quick history lesson, GB was at war with Germany from 1939. Britain destroyed german air power well before US got involved as late as 1942. If anything it was the Russians on the eastern front that sapped all of germanys resouces, most US resources were based in Indian ocean. Though US did supply us with much needed fuel and other munitions but Germany had already failed to invade England in 1940.
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Should Guns be allowed in the UK?(Vote Below)
I wonder, what would it be like also if the people demanded to have their gun rights back, to own guns again and for the UK people to be able to go hunting again. I don't know what they do there to keep the deer population down, but someone has to shoot them or they just let wolves keep them at a sustainable level there?
Ok, perhaps I can wiki all this, but I want to hear it directly from the people who live there or have lived there and why they gave up their guns and their God given freedoms.
What is the story.
Do you want your guns back?