A good man? (610)
royester24: THE DIFFERENCE IS I AM SAVED BY GRACE NOTHING I CAN DO TO EARN IT IT IS FREE FREE FREE I DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW RITUALS REGULATIONS AS IT IS WRITTEN IF THE LORD SETS YOU FREE YOU ARE FREE INDEED NOTHING ICAN DO CAN SAVE MY SELF IT IS THE LORD WORK OF GRACE
IT IS A GIFT YOU TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT FREE FREE FREE
IT IS A GIFT YOU TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT FREE FREE FREE
So you are saying you have an automatic pass to heaven because you believe in God/Jesus? So if you go out and commit a heinous crime it doesn't matter, because you have a free pass?
royester24: THE DIFFERENCE IS I AM SAVED BY GRACE NOTHING I CAN DO TO EARN IT IT IS FREE FREE FREE I DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW RITUALS REGULATIONS AS IT IS WRITTEN IF THE LORD SETS YOU FREE YOU ARE FREE INDEED NOTHING ICAN DO CAN SAVE MY SELF IT IS THE LORD WORK OF GRACE
IT IS A GIFT YOU TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT FREE FREE FREE
Religious Socialism!IT IS A GIFT YOU TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT FREE FREE FREE
Everything is FREE,since someone else pays for it?
Conrad73: Religious Socialism!
Everything is FREE,since someone else pays for it?
Everything is FREE,since someone else pays for it?
Exactly
thus we come to the fact, that people that are religious in any shape or form, tend to do many bad things, cos they believe that what ever they will do, they will still be in heaven in the end cos they "believe" What a load of crap theoldestdear: are you suggesting that Roman Catholics are not Chrstians?
ROMEMAN CATHOLIC ARE CHRISTIANS THERE WORSHIP IS DIFERENT.MOST OF MY FAMIL ARE ROMEAN CATHOLICS GODS CHURCH IS UNIVERSIL THERE ARE MANY DENOMENATIONS BECAUSE OF OUR FAITH IN JESUS WE ARE ALL BRTHERS AND SISTERS
royester24: ROMEMAN CATHOLIC ARE CHRISTIANS THERE WORSHIP IS DIFERENT.MOST OF MY FAMIL ARE ROMEAN CATHOLICS GODS CHURCH IS UNIVERSIL THERE ARE MANY DENOMENATIONS BECAUSE OF OUR FAITH IN JESUS WE ARE ALL BRTHERS AND SISTERS
Good thing I am not in this family, cos most of them would probably burn me at the stake for me using my head, living my life with out faith in Jesus or god - I am not saying you are one of them, I am speaking in general here
54xmax: Exactly thus we come to the fact, that people that are religious in any shape or form, tend to do many bad things, cos they believe that what ever they will do, they will still be in heaven in the end cos they "believe" What a load of crap
YES SOMEONE DID ELSE DID PAY FOR IT YOURSOUL LORD JESUS
ON THE CROSS HE PAID THE RANSOM FOR OUR SINS HIS LIFE FOR OUR LIFE
AMEN AND GOD BLESS ROYESTER
royester24: YES SOMEONE DID ELSE DID PAY FOR IT YOURSOUL LORD JESUS
ON THE CROSS HE PAID THE RANSOM FOR OUR SINS HIS LIFE FOR OUR LIFE
AMEN AND GOD BLESS ROYESTER
ON THE CROSS HE PAID THE RANSOM FOR OUR SINS HIS LIFE FOR OUR LIFE
AMEN AND GOD BLESS ROYESTER
So if both you and the pope agree that a good man will go to heaven (provided he isn't Asian) then why should I even consider coming off the fence? From where I'm sitting provided I do what I believe is right, I'm pretty much OK for heaven. So, like the 'good man' why let religion get in the way?
Iuchi_Zien: Didn't you know? They are HERETICS! and that is far worse than practising another religion!
no back door for them then
katt1017: The fact remains that you have not posted the supporting links under this identity that you claimed you had.
You have made assumptions it is not my fault you made them katt1017: If you wish to prove me wrong please feel free to try. .
I have no desire to prove you wrong (even though you are wrong by default due to you assumptions) Your opinion simply does not mean any thing to be (which really seems to be annoying you for some reason you may want to ask your self why )katt1017: I'm not here to do your homework for you.
I never said you where , my homework is done and dusted if you where really bothered with the truth of the original statment you would of googled it and found it to be true in less than 20 seconds instead you seem to be hung up in trying to prove me wrong which again you may want to ask your self why 
royester24: THERE IS BAD APPLES IN EVERY BARRELL NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION YOU BELIEVE IN AS I SAID THE CHURCH WILL JUDGED FIRST THE ROTTEN APPLES IN THE BARELL WILL BE THROWN OUT ESPECIALY THE WOLEVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.
So unrepentant murderers, rapists and child abusers will NOT be let into heaven? Even if they claim to be doing gods work as told in the bible?
RANDY72: your arrogance is a sin It is a big sin. You put yourself above others... you claim to be better than others or sin less than we do, you almost claim to be without sin.................
You are deceiving yourself. We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of GOD. This is why we need Jesus Christ.
You are deceiving yourself. We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of GOD. This is why we need Jesus Christ.
No you are DELIBERATELY mis-interpreting what he has said. What he is saying is WHY is it right for people who have committed horrible crimes to be allowed into heaven SIMPLY because they believe in God, whilst the rest of the law abiding non-Christian population is consigned to hell. Is ignorance a crime in the Christian Church? Are non-believers to be PUNISHED for ignorance? If so Christians should receive a worse punishment for failing those people. The unwillingness of Christians to discuss religious beliefs and to meet every question with a condemnation that they are being insulted or that they shouldn't have to defend their belief IS RESPONSIBLE for the non-believers trip down stairs.
Iuchi_Zien: So unrepentant murderers, rapists and child abusers will NOT be let into heaven? Even if they claim to be doing gods work as told in the bible?
AS IT IS WRITTEN SHURLEY I SAY TO YOU IF WE FAIL TO REPENT FOR OUR
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
"There are no evil thoughts, Mr. Rearden," Francisco said softly, "except one: the refusal to think."
— Ayn Rand ATLAS SHRUGGED
— Ayn Rand ATLAS SHRUGGED
royester24: THERE IS BAD APPLES IN EVERY BARRELL NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION YOU BELIEVE IN AS I SAID THE CHURCH WILL JUDGED FIRST THE ROTTEN APPLES IN THE BARELL WILL BE THROWN OUT ESPECIALY THE WOLEVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.
If a person is bad, no religion can change that, as well the fact, if the person is good, it all comes down to what one has in it's heart and soul - - - -
RANDY72: your arrogance is a sin It is a big sin. You put yourself above others... you claim to be better than others or sin less than we do, you almost claim to be without sin.................
You are deceiving yourself. We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of GOD. This is why we need Jesus Christ.
I always find this part amusing , why not Buda or Zeus out of all the religions what makes you think your is right and all the others are wrong ?? You are the arrogant oneYou are deceiving yourself. We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of GOD. This is why we need Jesus Christ.
royester24: AS IT IS WRITTEN SHURLEY I SAY TO YOU IF WE FAIL TO REPENT FOR OUR
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
OK then what you are saying is that all the Jews who behaved (by our standards) in a vile manner will be refused entrance to heaven since by being repentant of following the words of God, aren't they committing further sin?
royester24: AS IT IS WRITTEN SHURLEY I SAY TO YOU IF WE FAIL TO REPENT FOR OUR
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
So in effect, when they are dying by the sword thrust, and they repent, with the help of a priest, all their murderous past is wiped clean, cos they are "sorry" before they die, and ask for forgiveness?
54xmax: What's that ?
according to Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever.crotalus667: according to Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever.
Well then I'll burn in hell, according to the "holy crap book"
, so meet you at the grill pall, bear is on me crotalus667: according to Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever.
So it's OK to deny God but not the Holy spirit, which I thought was supposed to be part of God?
54xmax: Well then I'll burn in hell, according to the "holy crap book" , so meet you at the grill pall, bear is on me
Personally I want to be there with a nice sharp pitchfork when the 'born agains' arrive!
crotalus667: according to Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever.
According to
Proverbs 6:16-19 (New International Version)
16 There are six things the LORD hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
Iuchi_Zien: So it's OK to deny God but not the Holy spirit, which I thought was supposed to be part of God?
who would of thought the bible controdicted it's self 
crotalus667: who would of thought the bible controdicted it's self
Well I'm safe from that one then 'cos I never even thought to deny God by parts
royester24: AS IT IS WRITTEN SHURLEY I SAY TO YOU IF WE FAIL TO REPENT FOR OUR
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
MUDERERS RAPES LIES OUR AND OUR SINS WE WILL PERISH BUT ALL WHO CALL ON THE LORD WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. GOD IS NOT MOCKED A MAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS AND THOESE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD.
Their legacy of being bad to the bone and rank rotten to the core will remain in history forever. And such are never saved, because they do not recognise the atrocities they have caused and therefore cannot repent any kind of of wrong doing whatsoever. So forgiveness of any sort is non existent, and shall remain so by the people who have been affected by these criminals who commit offenses upon other human beings to cause such harm. These corrupt minds are deluded to even think they will languish in the prospect of going to any kind of better place. They will rot in the cess pit they were born out of.
Veritaas: Their legacy of being bad to the bone and rank rotten to the core will remain in history forever. And such are never saved, because they do not recognise the atrocities they have caused and therefore cannot repent any kind of of wrong doing whatsoever. So forgiveness of any sort is non existent, and shall remain so by the people who have been affected by these criminals who commit offenses upon other human beings to cause such harm. These corrupt minds are deluded to even think they will languish in the prospect of going to any kind of better place. They will rot in the cess pit they were born out of.
absolutley
Veritaas: Their legacy of being bad to the bone and rank rotten to the core will remain in history forever. And such are never saved, because they do not recognise the atrocities they have caused and therefore cannot repent any kind of of wrong doing whatsoever. So forgiveness of any sort is non existent, and shall remain so by the people who have been affected by these criminals who commit offenses upon other human beings to cause such harm. These corrupt minds are deluded to even think they will languish in the prospect of going to any kind of better place. They will rot in the cess pit they were born out of.
Ouch! Don't hold back will you!
Veritaas: Their legacy of being bad to the bone and rank rotten to the core will remain in history forever. And such are never saved, because they do not recognise the atrocities they have caused and therefore cannot repent any kind of of wrong doing whatsoever. So forgiveness of any sort is non existent, and shall remain so by the people who have been affected by these criminals who commit offenses upon other human beings to cause such harm. These corrupt minds are deluded to even think they will languish in the prospect of going to any kind of better place. They will rot in the cess pit they were born out of.
I have a feeling you were still being polite
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