theoldestdear: Can you explain a rational or tangible reason that we can trust that "God will make doors where there were only walls, move mountains, give love and you get love" where is the evidence?
I do it all the time, can give many examples EVIDENCE!!!
but just like doubting Thomas you need faith!!
so as a no faith type who loves evidence, you have evidence proving there is no God??? No you dont or you would present it, you are operating on faith, tsk tsk.
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. -- Denis Diderot, Observations on Drawing Up of Laws (1774), repr. in Lester G Crocker, ed, Selected Writings, ed. (1966), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
Iuchi_Zien: Do I take this to mean all those 'holier than thou', 'born again' Christians are destined for a downward move? I'd say fairly radical! Also, are you saying that faith is the only way into heaven?
I fail to see any rapport whatsoever between what I wrote and your comments. I never mentioned anything about heaven or hell or a downward move or anything of the sort.
If you want me to respond to your questions, they need to make some sort of sense.
Conrad73: The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. -- Denis Diderot, Observations on Drawing Up of Laws (1774), repr. in Lester G Crocker, ed, Selected Writings, ed. (1966), quoted from The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations
well if it was written in 1774 and again in 1966, it must be true
RayfromUSA: I fail to see any rapport whatsoever between what I wrote and your comments. I never mentioned anything about heaven or hell or a downward move or anything of the sort.
If you want me to respond to your questions, they need to make some sort of sense.
My question was fairly clear, so either you have gone off topic and as a result created the confusion or .....
Some People in this Thread have an absolute Phobia to think for themselves! They rather let some unspecified Deity and it's Self-appointed Spokesmen do it for them.
All I can say is, if you are a good man or lady god will be in your heart. That person am sure he have a religion or believes in God because only god can guide us to do good things .God want us to do good things .God will not cheat us. God do not want us to burn. God will help anybody ask for his help. Do not take my reply as a religion view. when god give u a blessing,u want to give back, to thanks god that he stand next to you and gave u that prize .u thanks god by doing good things.
Moo_hersi: All I can say is, if you are a good man or lady god will be in your heart. That person am sure he have a religion or believes in God because only god can guide us to do good things .God want us to do good things .God will not cheat us. God do not want us to burn. God will help anybody ask for his help. Do not take my reply as a religion view. when god give u a blessing,u want to give back, to thanks god that he stand next to you and gave u that prize .u thanks god by doing good things.
I don't agree, I don't believe in God yet I'm happy to do good things, not for the praise but simply because I feel better for doing them. If you are saying that is God, then I suspect that heaven is going to be inhabited by a lot of VERY unhappy Buddhists.
Oh, and how come I get the same feeling when I get revenge on somebody who has really ticked me off? Is that God as well?
Conrad73: Philosophy is timeless,Sunshine!Hoe come it bothers you that much?
Reminds you of the Treason you're committing on your mind?
I guess if I fly in an airplane i am commiting treason against my car because I am not driving, your brain has a subconcious, do you ever investigate its uses???
elmoangel: so as a no faith type who loves evidence, you have evidence proving there is no God??? No you dont or you would present it, you are operating on faith, tsk tsk.
I realize that I can't disprove that God exists, just like I can't disprove many things like the existence of either leprechauns or fairies at the bottom of the garden etc.
elmoangel: I do it all the time, can give many examples EVIDENCE!!! .
come on where is this evidence that you boldly claim to have?
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
I totally deny the truth of that statements.
Philosophy is just religion without a clear diety. And without a god, man himself becomes the supreme intellect. So pilosophy leads to self worship. And self worship leads to insanity.
Stalin had a philosophy. Charles Manson had a philosophy. Obama has a philosophy.
RayfromUSA: I totally deny the truth of that statements.
Philosophy is just religion without a clear diety. And without a god, man himself becomes the supreme intellect. So pilosophy leads to self worship. And self worship leads to insanity.
Stalin had a philosophy. Charles Manson had a philosophy. Obama has a philosophy.
But you are quite careful,not to discover their Non-Values,lest you find that you might be closer to them than you think!
Was that ment to be an insult ??? If so you should know that i do not find it insulting I do however find it very typical of christin in tolerance
RayfromUSA: Just this once, for the sake of Christian love I'll humor you. But the spirit of God doesn't hang around if it isn't appreciated and respected. If you want to talk about Christ, you need to soften up your spirit a lot. Otherwise neither He nor I will want to waste our time with you.:.
RayfromUSA: What I said was: The basic principal of Christianity is that when one has the spirit of Christ living within them, they no longer have to be bound by the letter of the law
And you demand scripture to back up that statement.
Here's some.
There are a lot more verses on the subject but I think these are enough to support what I said.Galatians 5:4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justifieda by the law; for you have fallen away from grace.
Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
IICo3:5b-6 Rather, our credentials come from God, who has also qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, which is not written, but spiritual, because the letter of the law brings death, but the Spirit gives life.
Rom 7:4 So this is the point: The law no longer holds you in its power, because you died to its power with Christ on the cross. And now you are united with he that was raised from the dead. As a result, you can produce good fruit, that is, good deeds for God.
Congratulations you have just proven the bible the allegedly infallible word of/ inspired by god contradicts it’s self . And as mentioned before the love thy neighbour bit refers other jews only
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I do it all the time, can give many examples EVIDENCE!!!
but just like doubting Thomas you need faith!!
so as a no faith type who loves evidence, you have evidence proving there is no God??? No you dont or you would present it, you are operating on faith, tsk tsk.