celibate: I think you are right. Scores of people wont own up to it.
That it's illegal is idiotic, Have you ever heard of someone stoned starting a Fight, let alone knocking their partner and kids about....Probably not... In a mature society we should have freedom of choice on such issues
Did...in my youth...did many unusual things when stoned...as part of my job (way previous)I had to do the statistics...yeah, took the work home..got stoned...did the work...HO HO HO...checked the stats next day....SURPRISE...had to do the stats all over again..they were real messed up...
leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
I have tried it in the past. I don't mind other people doing it, but quite honestly, wouldn't get seriously involved with someone who does it all the time. Why? Because I think it can become a coping mechanism which makes life all warm and fuzzy and stops you from facing the reality of your situation and making the necessary changes. Perhaps because my mom was an alcoholic, I prefer not to use crutches. I've seen what it can do. Also, I've seen friends when I was growing up get addicted.... they just lost all ambition and zest for life. Not for me.
Christmas1: Did...in my youth...did many unusual things when stoned...as part of my job (way previous)I had to do the statistics...yeah, took the work home..got stoned...did the work...HO HO HO...checked the stats next day....SURPRISE...had to do the stats all over again..they were real messed up...
That is so funny. Its funny how we can lose track of what we are doing when stoned. Thats probably why dope smokers dont really get into trouble. They cant remember what they were fighting about in the first place.
celibate: Im curious as to how many people use marijuana.
well I used to when i was back home ( Vancouver ) but no more green where i live at the moment , there is only the black stuff ( HASH ) it gets you high but you cant compare it to Weed !
I prefer booze, but I see no problems with it. smoke maybe twice a year
Frankly I can't believe how much money is wasted on tracking, arresting and prosecuting people and stuffing them in already over crowded jail sales. The only violence weed causes is in the trafficking of it. So if they really wanted to save money and reduce violent crime, it would be legalized. However that would be a threat to huge pharmaceutical companies and their much more dangerous and potent drugs that they push.
Sep 18, 2010 4:47 AM CST Do you smoke the dreaded green stuff?
DJMcCNorth Nowra, New South Wales Australia308 Posts
DJMcCNorth Nowra, New South Wales Australia308 posts
celibate: Im curious as to how many people use marijuana.
I have just spent 6 days in Mullunbimby near Byron bay...........wow I have never seen so much dope smoking in one place........deals openly done on the street.
Jihadmeathello: I prefer booze, but I see no problems with it. smoke maybe twice a yearFrankly I can't believe how much money is wasted on tracking, arresting and prosecuting people and stuffing them in already over crowded jail sales. The only violence weed causes is in the trafficking of it. So if they really wanted to save money and reduce violent crime, it would be legalized. However that would be a threat to huge pharmaceutical companies and their much more dangerous and potent drugs that they push.
Jihadmeathello: I prefer booze, but I see no problems with it. smoke maybe twice a yearFrankly I can't believe how much money is wasted on tracking, arresting and prosecuting people and stuffing them in already over crowded jail sales. The only violence weed causes is in the trafficking of it. So if they really wanted to save money and reduce violent crime, it would be legalized. However that would be a threat to huge pharmaceutical companies and their much more dangerous and potent drugs that they push.
leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
Jihadmeathello: I prefer booze, but I see no problems with it. smoke maybe twice a yearFrankly I can't believe how much money is wasted on tracking, arresting and prosecuting people and stuffing them in already over crowded jail sales. The only violence weed causes is in the trafficking of it. So if they really wanted to save money and reduce violent crime, it would be legalized. However that would be a threat to huge pharmaceutical companies and their much more dangerous and potent drugs that they push.
I disagree. Not re: the bottom bit, but re: not seeing problems with it. I don't think it should be legalised, for the following reasons:
It has been suggested that marijuana is at the root of many mental disorders, including acute toxic psychosis, panic attacks (one of the very conditions it is being used experimentally to treat), flashbacks, delusions, depersonalization, hallucinations, paranoia, depression, and uncontrollable aggressiveness. Marijuana has long been known to trigger attacks of mental illness, such as bipolar (manic-depressive) psychosis and schizophrenia. This connection with mental illness should make health care providers for terminally ill patients and the patients themselves, who may already be suffering from some form of clinical depression, weigh very carefully the pros and cons of adopting a therapeutic course of marijuana.
In the short term, marijuana use impairs perception, judgment, thinking, memory, and learning; memory defects may persist six weeks after last use. Mental disorders connected with marijuana use merit their own category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) IV, published by the American Psychiatric Association. These include Cannabis Intoxication (consisting of impaired motor coordination, anxiety, impaired judgment, sensation of slowed time, social withdrawal, and often includes perceptual disturbances; Cannabis Intoxication Delirium (memory deficit, disorientation); Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Delusions; Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Hallucinations; and Cannabis Induced Anxiety Disorder.
In addition, marijuana use has many indirect effects on health. Its effect on coordination, perception, and judgment means that it causes a number of accidents, vehicular and otherwise.
One study showed that 80% of people in mental institutions were regular marijuana users. This is not to mention the cancer link.
Sorry, to be a party pooper. I am not saying having it on the odd occasion isn't okay, but the thing is it is far too easy to become addicted, if you have an addictive personality... and how do you know you have until you've tried? You may start off thinking you'll only have it now and then but next thing you know it's every day.
Also it is usually the gateway to more serious drug usage. I've seen it. I've heard people who've been there... and I incorporate it into the workshops I do with teens, because they just don't see how bad it can be.
leostartingover: I disagree. Not re: the bottom bit, but re: not seeing problems with it. I don't think it should be legalised, for the following reasons:
It has been suggested that marijuana is at the root of many mental disorders, including acute toxic psychosis, panic attacks (one of the very conditions it is being used experimentally to treat), flashbacks, delusions, depersonalization, hallucinations, paranoia, depression, and uncontrollable aggressiveness. Marijuana has long been known to trigger attacks of mental illness, such as bipolar (manic-depressive) psychosis and schizophrenia. This connection with mental illness should make health care providers for terminally ill patients and the patients themselves, who may already be suffering from some form of clinical depression, weigh very carefully the pros and cons of adopting a therapeutic course of marijuana.
In the short term, marijuana use impairs perception, judgment, thinking, memory, and learning; memory defects may persist six weeks after last use. Mental disorders connected with marijuana use merit their own category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) IV, published by the American Psychiatric Association. These include Cannabis Intoxication (consisting of impaired motor coordination, anxiety, impaired judgment, sensation of slowed time, social withdrawal, and often includes perceptual disturbances; Cannabis Intoxication Delirium (memory deficit, disorientation); Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Delusions; Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder, Hallucinations; and Cannabis Induced Anxiety Disorder.
In addition, marijuana use has many indirect effects on health. Its effect on coordination, perception, and judgment means that it causes a number of accidents, vehicular and otherwise.
The same can be said of any Drug.. Alcohol, Tabacco, OTC drug, Prescription drugs. However, Marijuana can be and is used for treating and lessening the symptons of MS, Arthritis, To ease the neausia cause by Chemo and many other ailments
leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
blarneykite: The same can be said of any Drug.. Alcohol, Tabacco, OTC drug, Prescription drugs. However, Marijuana can be and is used for treating and lessening the symptons of MS, Arthritis, To ease the neausia cause by Chemo and many other ailments
Yes, although not necessarily all the above. Yes it can be used to lessen symptoms of some illnesses, but many studies show that the side effects are not worth it.
jeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)10,968 posts
blarneykite: The same can be said of any Drug.. Alcohol, Tabacco, OTC drug, Prescription drugs. However, Marijuana can be and is used for treating and lessening the symptons of MS, Arthritis, To ease the neausia cause by Chemo and many other ailments
jeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)10,968 posts
leostartingover: Yes, although not necessarily all the above. Yes it can be used to lessen symptoms of some illnesses, but many studies show that the side effects are not worth it.
It has never had any side effects on me that I know of other than making me simply irresistible.
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