Should US War Resisters Be Deported From Canada For Not Fighting In Iraq War? (124)
If someone joins the military, they do it knowing that there is a possibility of having to go to war.
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
I joined the USCG and was in bootcamp shortly after graduating high school in '78. The USCG is normally a part of the Dept of Transportation but during time of war, it moves to being a part of the Navy. I knew there was a possibility of having to go into a war while I was in.
A proud vet
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
I joined the USCG and was in bootcamp shortly after graduating high school in '78. The USCG is normally a part of the Dept of Transportation but during time of war, it moves to being a part of the Navy. I knew there was a possibility of having to go into a war while I was in.
A proud vet
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Raynew1959: If someone joins the military, they do it knowing that there is a possibility of having to go to war.
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
A proud vet
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
A proud vet
Ya saved me having to type it myself
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All in all I'm OK with it and the majority of Canadians do too but I certainly see your side.
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I think cowards will use any deception that they can employ to avoid active service. If you sign up you should honour that.
There is no excuse now for conciencious objectors as there is no longer a draft. If you are against war or the ethics of it, avoid the military.
There is no excuse now for conciencious objectors as there is no longer a draft. If you are against war or the ethics of it, avoid the military.
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gleneagle: I think cowards will use any deception that they can employ to avoid active service. If you sign up you should honour that.
There is no excuse now for conciencious objectors as there is no longer a draft. If you are against war or the ethics of it, avoid the military.
There is no excuse now for conciencious objectors as there is no longer a draft. If you are against war or the ethics of it, avoid the military.
In WWII, they used CO (conscience objectors) to be the medic in many US units.
My dad Para unit had CO medics They were not suppose to be armed. First jump they did it by the book. No medic were armed. On their second jump every medic in the unit was armed to the teeth....
They got tired of being shot at while treating wounded. So decided to shoot back. Your ethics change after a 7 mil wisses by your head....
A CO is ...even a gay... in the military is as heroic and loyal as the next man or woman. It is the situations that they get placed into that make for tough ethical choices.
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If you sign a Contract,Honor It!
You knew what you might get into at the time of Signing Up!
If you run away,you're a Deserter!
You signed up by your Own Free Will,you weren't Drafted!
You knew what you might get into at the time of Signing Up!
If you run away,you're a Deserter!
You signed up by your Own Free Will,you weren't Drafted!
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Raynew1959: If someone joins the military, they do it knowing that there is a possibility of having to go to war.
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
I joined the USCG and was in bootcamp shortly after graduating high school in '78. The USCG is normally a part of the Dept of Transportation but during time of war, it moves to being a part of the Navy. I knew there was a possibility of having to go into a war while I was in.
A proud vet
AgreesThe way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
I joined the USCG and was in bootcamp shortly after graduating high school in '78. The USCG is normally a part of the Dept of Transportation but during time of war, it moves to being a part of the Navy. I knew there was a possibility of having to go into a war while I was in.
A proud vet
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Conrad73: If you sign a Contract,Honor It!You knew what you might get into at the time of Signing Up!
If you run away,you're a Deserter!
You signed up by your Own Free Will,you weren't Drafted!
agreesIf you run away,you're a Deserter!
You signed up by your Own Free Will,you weren't Drafted!
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Iraqi War resisters should be given purple hearts for abstaining from a war that was an utter waste of life, material, and treasure. It ruined the economy of the US, ruined the international reputation of the US, and was based on a lie. They are more honourable than the people who went to fight.
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musicfreak: I just would like to know your opinions. It doesn't really bother me as I understand if they don't believe in the Iraq war but at the same time it's costing our system. They are trying to claim Refugee status but resisting war is currently not a reason to claim Refugee status. The Prime Minister is trying to have them all deported. Since 2003 there have been over 200 war resisters. At present time Parliament is trying to introduce a new bill that will allow them to stay.
We currently have a Church here in Vancouver providing sanctuary for one soldier. He thinks the war is morally wrong. He signed up to be a cook but he ended up operating machinery for detecting explosives. It seems to be a common thing here soldier or not for the Church's to provide sanctuary to individuals they believe should not be deported.
I know some of your are passioniate about this subject and believe strongly if you sign up you should fulfil your duties. Tell me what you think but please no bashing of one another or each other's countries.
Some interesting links:
is this a left over poll from about 1972,then it was an issue for me ........my birthday wasnt unlucky enough for me to be a NASHO
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We currently have a Church here in Vancouver providing sanctuary for one soldier. He thinks the war is morally wrong. He signed up to be a cook but he ended up operating machinery for detecting explosives. It seems to be a common thing here soldier or not for the Church's to provide sanctuary to individuals they believe should not be deported.
I know some of your are passioniate about this subject and believe strongly if you sign up you should fulfil your duties. Tell me what you think but please no bashing of one another or each other's countries.
Some interesting links:
is this a left over poll from about 1972,then it was an issue for me ........my birthday wasnt unlucky enough for me to be a NASHO
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I think they should be deported for being A.W.O.L. When they joined, they signed a piece of paper (and had it explained to them) that they could be sent at any time into a "war zone" (for lack of a better word)
My youngest just enlisted and I am very proud of him. He knows what he signed up for, I know what he signed for and he would never back out of his duties.
My youngest just enlisted and I am very proud of him. He knows what he signed up for, I know what he signed for and he would never back out of his duties.
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Iraqi War resisters should be given purple hearts for abstaining from a war that was an utter waste of life, material, and treasure. It ruined the economy of the US, ruined the international reputation of the US, and was based on a lie. They are more honourable than the people who went to fight solders dont have politics they just do their jobs for their country, resisters for what ever reason dont understand the politics of the world
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Well maybe we live in an age where soldiers should start informing themselves on world affairs before they sign up. Gone is the age where the saying "Ours is not to question why, ours is but to do and die..." Goverments and the miltary cannot be trusted. Wake up man, welcome to reality!
DJMcC: Iraqi War resisters should be given purple hearts for abstaining from a war that was an utter waste of life, material, and treasure. It ruined the economy of the US, ruined the international reputation of the US, and was based on a lie. They are more honourable than the people who went to fight solders dont have politics they just do their jobs for their country, resisters for what ever reason dont understand the politics of the world
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Raynew1959: If someone joins the military, they do it knowing that there is a possibility of having to go to war.
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
I joined the USCG and was in bootcamp shortly after graduating high school in '78. The USCG is normally a part of the Dept of Transportation but during time of war, it moves to being a part of the Navy. I knew there was a possibility of having to go into a war while I was in.
A proud vet
The way I see it, if they go AWOL to get out of having to fulfill that contract, they are cowards and traitors.
I joined the USCG and was in bootcamp shortly after graduating high school in '78. The USCG is normally a part of the Dept of Transportation but during time of war, it moves to being a part of the Navy. I knew there was a possibility of having to go into a war while I was in.
A proud vet
I am also a proud military vet (USAF) and served my country with honor and will forever be honored for serving and life all that VOLUNTARILY joined there is always a threat of war and was not afraid. Those that deserted/went AWOL should be expedited back to the USA and prosecuted under the uniform code of military justice.!------ This poll is Archived ------
Dude44: Well maybe we live in an age where soldiers should start informing themselves on world affairs before they sign up. Gone is the age where the saying "Ours is not to question why, ours is but to do and die..." Goverments and the miltary cannot be trusted. Wake up man, welcome to reality!
You should be informed that the majority of the young men and women who join the different branches of the U.S. Military and Uniformed Public Services are very well informed of the choice that they make. They make a conscious decision to join and are well aware of the risks and hazards that they will be facing.
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Don't make me laugh uncontrollably in my coffee. Are you telling me that the US military will give their conscripts an overview of history, colonialization, wars, and the effects thereof, human rights, and moral issues? The US has been responsible for more invasive wars in the last 100 years than any other country! And none of them on your own soil!! Where has it got you? In bankruptcy court maybe...
amahlala: You should be informed that the majority of the young men and women who join the different branches of the U.S. Military and Uniformed Public Services are very well informed of the choice that they make. They make a conscious decision to join and are well aware of the risks and hazards that they will be facing.
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Dude44: Don't make me laugh uncontrollably in my coffee. Are you telling me that the US military will give their conscripts an overview of history, colonialization, wars, and the effects thereof, human rights, and moral issues? The US has been responsible for more invasive wars in the last 100 years than any other country! And none of them on your own soil!! Where has it got you? In bankruptcy court maybe...
Man you have your facts all wrong. The USA has been drawn into combat for human rights and to protect their intersts and have not INVADED countries to take over any government except one and that was IRAQ and the reasons were justified. As for bankruptcy, this man-child is determined to ruin our country because of his beliefs and hopefully voted out in 2 years.
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Dude44: Don't make me laugh uncontrollably in my coffee. Are you telling me that the US military will give their conscripts an overview of history, colonialization, wars, and the effects thereof, human rights, and moral issues? The US has been responsible for more invasive wars in the last 100 years than any other country! And none of them on your own soil!! Where has it got you? In bankruptcy court maybe...
Wow! Are you seriously generalizing the education and information that those individuals are given? Did I say that they were just given information just through their recruiters or through their training? Did you personally never attend a school or receive formal education? Do you honestly believe what you wrote?
And they are not "conscripts," as you wrongly stated. A little bit of info for you:
Conscription in the United States (also called compulsory military service or the draft) has been employed several times, usually during war but also during the nominal peace of the Cold War. The United States discontinued the draft in 1973, moving to an all-volunteer military force, thus there is no mandatory conscription.
However, the Selective Service System remains in place as a contingency plan; men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed if needed.
(wikipedia - quick definition for you)
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Dude44: Don't make me laugh uncontrollably in my coffee. Are you telling me that the US military will give their conscripts an overview of history, colonialization, wars, and the effects thereof, human rights, and moral issues? The US has been responsible for more invasive wars in the last 100 years than any other country! And none of them on your own soil!! Where has it got you? In bankruptcy court maybe...
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I'm impressed with the logic of your answer. On what do you base your statement outlined in blue below?
lifeatthebeach: Man you have your facts all wrong. The USA has been drawn into combat for human rights and to protect their intersts and have not INVADED countries to take over any government except one and that was IRAQ and the reasons were justified. As for bankruptcy, this man-child is determined to ruin our country because of his beliefs and hopefully voted out in 2 years.
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Conrad73: Not trying to make us Swiss look stupid,are you?
I would not say that he was but I do think he is generalizing what he does not know and/or understand....
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DJMcC: Iraqi War resisters should be given purple hearts for abstaining from a war that was an utter waste of life, material, and treasure. It ruined the economy of the US, ruined the international reputation of the US, and was based on a lie. They are more honourable than the people who went to fight solders dont have politics they just do their jobs for their country, resisters for what ever reason dont understand the politics of the world
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Dude44: Don't make me laugh uncontrollably in my coffee. Are you telling me that the US military will give their conscripts an overview of history, colonialization, wars, and the effects thereof, human rights, and moral issues? The US has been responsible for more invasive wars in the last 100 years than any other country! And none of them on your own soil!! Where has it got you? In bankruptcy court maybe...
"We have gone forth from our shores repeatedly over the last hundred years and we’ve done this as recently as the last year in Afghanistan and put wonderful young men and women at risk, many of whom have lost their lives, and we have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them in, and otherwise we have returned home to seek our own, you know, to seek our own lives in peace, to live our own lives in peace. But there comes a time when soft power or talking with evil will not work where, unfortunately, hard power is the only thing that works."
Colin Powell
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amahlala: I would not say that he was but I do think he is generalizing what he does not know and/or understand....
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Conrad73: He hasn't got a Clew!
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DJMcC: simple a medic carrying a weapon is a combatant I have been to 2 situations so far in my life ..if you dont have a gun then generally they womt shoot you
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You live south of the Mason-Dixon, conservative country. It is not surprising to me that you would blindly back and support the actions of the american military. I did so myself for a long time, until I started studying international politics. It's really a question of where you are on the information curve. The facts speak for themselves and are available to anyone willing to take the time to inform themselves. You, as an american citizen, can hardly be expected to disagree with the Pentagon.
amahlala: I would not say that he was but I do think he is generalizing what he does not know and/or understand....
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Conrad73: Not trying to make us Swiss look stupid,are you?
the swiss perfected the pike defence.like a turtle....renowned throug all europe as mercenaries...........unfortunatly that was centuries ago .the swiss are a bunch of Sitters.just sit on this fence .oh o.k just sit on that fence..........useless------ This poll is Archived ------
Dude44: I'm impressed with the logic of your answer. On what do you base your statement outlined in blue below?
The former dictator Hussein, had conspired with Bin Laden and the al qaeda for the terrorists attacks in Spain, London and 9/11 attacks despite what naysayers have said about there was no connection. He also had been making nuclear attacks on this and other countries and YES weapons of mass destruction have been found along with his genocide of country men and other countries in the surround region. He had to be stopped so the USA along with a small coalition removed him.
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DJMcC: the swiss perfected the pike defence.like a turtle....renowned throug all europe as mercenaries...........unfortunatly that was centuries ago .the swiss are a bunch of Sitters.just sit on this fence .oh o.k just sit on that fence..........useless
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Should US War Resisters Be Deported From Canada For Not Fighting In Iraq War?(Vote Below)
We currently have a Church here in Vancouver providing sanctuary for one soldier. He thinks the war is morally wrong. He signed up to be a cook but he ended up operating machinery for detecting explosives. It seems to be a common thing here soldier or not for the Church's to provide sanctuary to individuals they believe should not be deported.
I know some of your are passioniate about this subject and believe strongly if you sign up you should fulfil your duties. Tell me what you think but please no bashing of one another or each other's countries.
Some interesting links: