leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
whitetiger77: very good you are right on that one. both women and men do not need to control each other, but we all see that happening all the time and it is so sad. when it comes to love and relationships it should be considered as partners working together as one not one against the other.
Exactly! Too many people think that being in a committed relationship gives you the right to try to change the other person to make them into what you want them to be. The best relationships are those in which both people retain their individuality!
plainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines8,175 posts
leostartingover: Exactly! Too many people think that being in a committed relationship gives you the right to try to change the other person to make them into what you want them to be. The best relationships are those in which both people retain their individuality!
true, how amazed i am sometimes that when i try to be more of an individual in a relationship, the more my partner gets interested and more attached.
leostartingoverSandton, Gauteng South Africa1,685 posts
plainlyjune: true, how amazed i am sometimes that when i try to be more of an individual in a relationship, the more my partner gets interested and more attached.
Yes, I think if the person has a healthy self esteem, they enjoy it when you can be your own person! It keeps the relationship interesting and challenging, in a nice way!
kcuc0574Ho Chi Minh, Southeast Vietnam Vietnam2,003 posts
i think if you are in a committed relation, your individual freedom should be in limit and under responsibilities if u dont want to destroy your relation with your selfnishness or i think you dont dare to say out your true thoughts about woman's power, jmho,
kidatheart: Neither love nor children should ever be used as a weapon against anyone, although they are, all too often.
Right. You should never USE love and kids to weild a power over a man, but love and kids should be enough reason for a man to be happy with the woman he chose to love and have children with.
leostartingover: Yes, I think if the person has a healthy self esteem, they enjoy it when you can be your own person! It keeps the relationship interesting and challenging, in a nice way!
I agree somewhat. A person should never give up who they are to be with the person they love BUT, if you are in a relationship, you are part of a team (couple) and must also be able to put aside your individual way of thinking and doing things for the greater good of the team (couple) at times.
Ccincy: A real woman wouldn't have power over a man.No more then a real man would have power over a woman.Someone only has power over someone if they are given that power.
except when the natural instincts given to us all over ride reason.
LadyinDublin: in a common-sense relationship, noone has control over another.
oh and women are not "5 foot waifs" im 5.2 but no waif. some of the options say it all about your opinion of women e.g. deception and sneakiness
I see your point, but I was just trying to make a comparison. Many women want men 6 feet or more, but they themselves are less than 6 feet, so the man is usually larger than they are.
Deception and sneakiness is only one of the options. Are you implying that some women are not dectptive and sneaky? Where have you been?
lookup64: already told you... assuming you read it that is.
I read everything you write to me, sweetie.... But mayhap I missed the one that told me how to have enough power over a man to make him forget there are other women ready and waiting for him too. And that is the ONLY power I would want to have over a man. I could never respect a man who let me walk all over him.
Lonely1: I see your point, but I was just trying to make a comparison. Many women want men 6 feet or more, but they themselves are less than 6 feet, so the man is usually larger than they are.
Deception and sneakiness is only one of the options. Are you implying that some women are not dectptive and sneaky? Where have you been?
size has as little as colour to do with control.
i gave that option as a single example. the poll reads as if you are talking about all women. all of us are not like that. ive no desire to control a man, and if one tries to control me, well he will have major problems on his plate.
Jaygo1: I read everything you write to me, sweetie.... But mayhap I missed the one that told me how to have enough power over a man to make him forget there are other women ready and waiting for him too. And that is the ONLY power I would want to have over a man. I could never respect a man who let me walk all over him.
well timed continuous vulnurability. it's an instinct no man can resist. even the littlest, dumbest things. like opening a jar for his weakling woman, even when she could get a jar opener from the store. gotta keep him thinking like he's needed. keep a man thinking he's saving the day and he'll never stray. i mean how many times can a man deal with saving the same day?
Jaygo1: I agree somewhat. A person should never give up who they are to be with the person they love BUT, if you are in a relationship, you are part of a team (couple) and must also be able to put aside your individual way of thinking and doing things for the greater good of the team (couple) at times.
Jaygo1: Wish I knew.... I think you could answer that better than I.
so far what i read from you tells me your head is on straight. maybe it's on too straight? or maybe just bad luck, like me? lol, at least that's what i tell myself.
lookup64: well timed continuous vulnurability. it's an instinct no man can resist. even the littlest, dumbest things. like opening a jar for his weakling woman, even when she could get a jar opener from the store. gotta keep him thinking like he's needed. keep a man thinking he's saving the day and he'll never stray. i mean how many times can a man deal with saving the same day?
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Oh yes, now I remember you saying that. Just so you know, vulnerable doesn't work for me because I've had to be so strong for the past 18 yrs. AND the men I seem to attract don't want to have to take care of anyone, they just want to have fun. I'm not afraid to show my vulnerability (I'm basically too honest to hide it), but they just don't think it's fun to take care of me - except in the bedroom.
lookup64: so far what i read from you tells me your head is on straight. maybe it's on too straight? or maybe just bad luck, like me? lol, at least that's what i tell myself.
Or maybe I just don't have the look that men want to see every day for the rest of their lives?
Yeah, I like your way of thinking....let's just put it down to bad luck. After reading many of your postings, I've often wondered why YOU were single too, so blaming it on luck seems to be the most reasonable avenue for us.
In response to: so in answer to the OP's post. a woman's power over men? they don't have any. man's instincts, given at birth, control almost everything we do. a smart woman uses them, because she loves him, to help him be all he can be. not to control him. see, he want's his woman to be happy. what they want is a real man. then just help him be that, and he will be.
You know... that was the closest thing to the truth that I've heard a man actually capable of verbalizing in a very loooong time.
Ccincy: A real woman wouldn't have power over a man.No more then a real man would have power over a woman.Someone only has power over someone if they are given that power.
HotrodLarrys: When Two, are walking Togather, with the Same End Goal and With Love, Their shouldnt be much Turbulence... SEE But finding it is much Harder...
anyone for carrot cake? Deep respect, honesty and security are the base for a good partnership. Love would not fail if all the bases were not covered. Oh yes and a pinch of humour A woman should not have power or control over a man if she does then she is keeping him under false pretence.
Jaygo1: I agree somewhat. A person should never give up who they are to be with the person they love BUT, if you are in a relationship, you are part of a team (couple) and must also be able to put aside your individual way of thinking and doing things for the greater good of the team (couple) at times.
I agree very much! with what you put out here Jaygo1.
My theory only,.... One must never, put aside their individual thinking, as that's the makeup of an acceptance of a great relationship.
tstone61: for me women dont have any power over me im my own power.I would not want power over anyone else eather. then you are getting into controlling, possesiveness and those arent good. power is for fighting or working not for loving ,love is powerless
yeah..only idiots and losers get's carried away by a pretty -faced shallow predators ...a real MAN...in his heart knows the truth..:)and knows exactly when not to think thru his D... but thru his mind...oops
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