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Nov 1, 2010 9:28 AM CSTIs infertility becoming more frequent?
roy38roy
roy38royroy38royAthens, Attica, Greece4 Threads 3 Polls 2 Posts

Is infertility becoming more frequent?(Vote Below)

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Infertility is a medical and social problem. Not only physicians but also the general public seem to be concerned about its incidence.
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Nov 1, 2010 9:31 AM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
LadyinDublin
LadyinDublinLadyinDublinDublin, Ireland31 Threads 768 Posts
roy38roy: Infertility is a medical and social problem. Not only physicians but also the general public seem to be concerned about its incidence.


dunno doctors dont seem concernd here dunno i had a procedure planned for last december to investigate for endometriosis and they cancelled it and never rebooked it. the doctors arent worried because of my age dunno id like to no why im not as important as a 30year old woman dunno
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Nov 1, 2010 9:45 AM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
LadyinDublin
LadyinDublinLadyinDublinDublin, Ireland31 Threads 768 Posts
id like to ad, because i got no treatment for it and because i couldnt afford not to work i had to fill myself with painkillers at certain times so i could walk around and i ended up with a major codiene problem dunno now still no treatment but no pain relief
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Nov 1, 2010 10:00 AM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
LadyinDublin: doctors dont seem concernd here i had a procedure planned for last december to investigate for endometriosis and they cancelled it and never rebooked it. the doctors arent worried because of my age id like to no why im not as important as a 30year old woman


Like I've said in the past, I've heard horror stories about the healthcare system in the UK many times. Being employed in the medical field and the medical insurance field in the past, I can honestly say our system has it's flaws but when someone needs care, there are ways of getting it.

However, that being said, if I were you, I'd start researching some information on .edu, .gov, .org sites and find out as much information as you can about endometriosis. My sister had it since she was 14, now she's 35, has had a son and recently underwent a hysterectomy because she's had surgeries in the past to remove some of the tissues, but it was never a guaranteed solution surgery was going to put an end to it.

She got a hysterectomy because she had been dealing with excruciating pain for more than 20 yrs. but she also incorporated a special diet for women that have endo, and it helped her a lot after she had her surgery too.

Insist on have a laparoscopy done to examine your internal parts and see where the tissue is located, hers was wrapped around the bladder, spine and aortic artery, so there was little recourse for her, but each case is vastly different. I wish you luck and know what you are going through is not easy by any stretch.hug
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Nov 1, 2010 12:52 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
LadyinDublin
LadyinDublinLadyinDublinDublin, Ireland31 Threads 768 Posts
lilmamma71: Like I've said in the past, I've heard horror stories about the healthcare system in the UK many times. Being employed in the medical field and the medical insurance field in the past, I can honestly say our system has it's flaws but when someone needs care, there are ways of getting it.

However, that being said, if I were you, I'd start researching some information on .edu, .gov, .org sites and find out as much information as you can about endometriosis. My sister had it since she was 14, now she's 35, has had a son and recently underwent a hysterectomy because she's had surgeries in the past to remove some of the tissues, but it was never a guaranteed solution surgery was going to put an end to it.

She got a hysterectomy because she had been dealing with excruciating pain for more than 20 yrs. but she also incorporated a special diet for women that have endo, and it helped her a lot after she had her surgery too.

Insist on have a laparoscopy done to examine your internal parts and see where the tissue is located, hers was wrapped around the bladder, spine and aortic artery, so there was little recourse for her, but each case is vastly different. I wish you luck and know what you are going through is not easy by any stretch.


im sorry for your sister i cant imagine how hard it was to do that. my aunt has it too. ive heard of a special diet but never got the chance to find it out. the laparoscopy was what was planned first, but they cancelled it two days before i went in. i had to run earlier, i didnt want to get into a big discussion on it realy.

teddybear
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Nov 1, 2010 1:02 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
roy38roy: Infertility is a medical and social problem. Not only physicians but also the general public seem to be concerned about its incidence.


Our world population passed the sustainable population many years ago - hence starvation in Africa, India, and many 3rd world countries.... The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing population per capita - yet over one third of their people are poor and/or surviving only because of relatives living in foreign countries supporting them.

In the USA we have over 300 million people now, yet no more land to grow food, raise animals for meat, etc..

"Infertility" it is not a PROBLEM it is a SOLUTION doh
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Nov 1, 2010 1:05 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
LadyinDublin
LadyinDublinLadyinDublinDublin, Ireland31 Threads 768 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: Our world population passed the sustainable population many years ago - hence starvation in Africa, India, and many 3rd world countries.... The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing population per capita - yet over one third of their people are poor and/or surviving only because of relatives living in foreign countries supporting them.

In the USA we have over 300 million people now, yet no more land to grow food, raise animals for meat, etc..

"Infertility" it is not a PROBLEM it is a SOLUTION



how can you come on here and say that? how is it deserved? id like to no what ive done wrong in your eyes? infertility is a curse. its depressing and it eats away at your heart and soul. but dont anyone worry, ill beat it.
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Nov 1, 2010 1:06 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou: Our world population passed the sustainable population many years ago - hence starvation in Africa, India, and many 3rd world countries.... The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing population per capita - yet over one third of their people are poor and/or surviving only because of relatives living in foreign countries supporting them.

In the USA we have over 300 million people now, yet no more land to grow food, raise animals for meat, etc..

"Infertility" it is not a PROBLEM it is a SOLUTION
Say WHAT?confused
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Nov 1, 2010 1:21 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: Our world population passed the sustainable population many years ago - hence starvation in Africa, India, and many 3rd world countries.... The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing population per capita - yet over one third of their people are poor and/or surviving only because of relatives living in foreign countries supporting them.

In the USA we have over 300 million people now, yet no more land to grow food, raise animals for meat, etc..

"Infertility" it is not a PROBLEM it is a SOLUTION


You won't convinve many Westerners of that until food and other commodities begin to wildly escalate in price as supply falls and demand increases, they will then begin to see what an unsheltered life looks like.

Give it 10-15 years, existing raw materials and methods of supply have not been completely exhausted yet and people don't realise just how underinvested and underengineered the sustainable industries are.
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Nov 1, 2010 1:26 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
LadyinDublin
LadyinDublinLadyinDublinDublin, Ireland31 Threads 768 Posts
TrueBlue1986: You won't convinve many Westerners of that until food and other commodities begin to wildly escalate in price as supply falls and demand increases, they will then begin to see what an unsheltered life looks like.

Give it 10-15 years, existing raw materials and methods of supply have not been completely exhausted yet and people don't realise just how underinvested and underengineered the sustainable industries are.


that still does not justify what he says on infertility
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Nov 1, 2010 1:32 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Conrad73: They also invented Hydroponics!


That solves the depletion of fresh water, fossil fuels, necessary metals and the growing problem of pollination of crops in what way?

Another point, how prominent is it in today's society despite the fact it's been around since the days of Babylon, and not 100 years ago.
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Nov 1, 2010 1:59 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou: Our world population passed the sustainable population many years ago - hence starvation in Africa, India, and many 3rd world countries.... The Philippines is now the 2nd fastest growing population per capita - yet over one third of their people are poor and/or surviving only because of relatives living in foreign countries supporting them.

In the USA we have over 300 million people now, yet no more land to grow food, raise animals for meat, etc..

"Infertility" it is not a PROBLEM it is a SOLUTION
Erm, USA like many Industrialized nations, has fallen below the 2.1 replacement rate. We are at 2.05. Tiwain has recently made headlines with the offer of free IVF Treatments. Tiwain has also begun offering to pay couples to have children as Officials are worried b/c the replacement rate is well below the 2.1%. As of a study done in 2009, most USA births was to Immigrants. As to not enough food, there IS plenty of room. The problem is, it is extremely expensive to farm today. My Father spent any where between $700.00 to $2500.00 for a tractor:New. Nowadays, New tractors can cost ~ $80,000.00 or more, it is harder to find a feed mill in one's location. Many Elderly are selling off land to be able to keep their homes. Then you have the Suburban Sprall into Farm Territory where laws are enacted to remove animals. Meanwhile, the Cities are emptying. Until such a time comes that Farmland Protection is truly enacted, food production will continue to decrease.doh
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Nov 1, 2010 2:04 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
Marmitegirl
MarmitegirlMarmitegirlReading, Berkshire, England UK77 Posts
Infertitilty is on the increase as the lifestyle has changed.
People are more sedentary and don't always eat a healthy balanced diet so don't get the vitamins and minerals they need.

Lady in Dublin, I just found the following website which is uK based and information on nutrition.



I had a laporooscopy last year.I was tested within four weeks of speaking to my doctor and asking her to refer me, it was confirmed and I was prescribed Cerazette the mini pill. Within a few months I was pain free and still am.

How many times have you asked your GP to refer you again?
If they are refusing to refer you then you should chnange doctors.
If the problem is endo then it will only get worse, not better.
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Nov 1, 2010 2:10 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
LadyinDublin: how can you come on here and say that? how is it deserved? id like to no what ive done wrong in your eyes? infertility is a curse. its depressing and it eats away at your heart and soul. but dont anyone worry, ill beat it.


I was commenting on the original post - see title "Poll Comment"

If you believe infertility is a curse - fine.

I have traveled to several 3rd world countries and believe otherwise
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Nov 1, 2010 2:11 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986: That solves the depletion of fresh water, fossil fuels, necessary metals and the growing problem of pollination of crops in what way?

Another point, how prominent is it in today's society despite the fact it's been around since the days of Babylon, and not 100 years ago.
I am aware it has been around considerably longer!grin
Israel is growing most of its Stuff Hydroponically!
You'd probably surprised if you found out how much of the Produce you eat has been grown that way.
And you can roughly triple the yield on your Acreage with relatively simple setups,like the Bengal System for instance.
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Nov 1, 2010 2:12 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: I was commenting on the original post - see title "Poll Comment"

If you believe infertility is a curse - fine.

I have traveled to several 3rd world countries and believe otherwise


Why should the Irish suffer for the actions of the 3rd world?
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Nov 1, 2010 2:15 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
GoodHeartforYou:
"Infertility" it is not a PROBLEM it is a SOLUTION


Absolute nonsense, no matter what argument you might present here in this thread!
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Nov 1, 2010 2:19 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
roy38roy: Infertility is a medical and social problem. Not only physicians but also the general public seem to be concerned about its incidence.
OP, as a woman that has suffered Infertily, and made much of the walk, alone, I believe it is a rising problem. I grew up under high tension lines. These lines also form their own Inductive Fields. Many health abnormalities have been found to affect those that live in the proximity of such areas. Add to this, water poisoning from chemical runoff, Medications that were approved before the stingent testing of today, many, many other causes either directly or indirectly related, causing infertility. It is a problem that makes me think of that one movie that Stared: Parker Stevenson: Where the UFO abductions were possibly not abductions at all but Humans of the Future coming back in time, to save the human race from extinction by performing "Surgeries" on those the future records listed as infertile, in order to understand what happened and try to reverse the extinction of Humanity as a Spieces AND to save Earth. hug
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Nov 1, 2010 2:24 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Conrad73: I am aware it has been around considerably longer!
Israel is growing most of its Stuff Hydroponically!
You'd probably surprised if you found out how much of the Produce you eat has been grown that way.
And you can roughly triple the yield on your Acreage with relatively simple setups,like the Bengal System for instance.


No surprise to me, Israel is a hard-working, developed and well organised nation. Will those efforts be matched across the globe given the signs we see?

And correct me if i'm mistaken but hydrophonics does not solve the problem of the dying honey bee? Which means nature no longer pollinates itself and to do this manually is an insurmountable tast

It is one possible scenario that everything will be ok in the future, but when you look at the world coldly and rationally it is just so unlikely that will be the case.
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Nov 1, 2010 2:28 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Hydroponics that should be
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Nov 1, 2010 2:32 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
CityMan79
CityMan79CityMan79Columbus, Georgia USA1 Posts
I think this is a sad case, only because its the native Europeans that are getting screwed over here. The EU imports millions and millions of Africans and others that come over and spread diseases like AIDS, and HPV (which leads to infertility). Your liberal govts do not care about the native people like the British or the Irish, or the French. In fact FINALLY the leader of Germany stepped up and said "multiculturalism has been a Failure"
This is sad, a native Irish/ British woman cannot even get the help she needs. But a African that comes and spreads HIV to multiple women in Europe can get "free healthcare".

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Nov 1, 2010 2:36 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
CityMan79: I think this is a sad case, only because its the native Europeans that are getting screwed over here. The EU imports millions and millions of Africans and others that come over and spread diseases like AIDS, and HPV (which leads to infertility). Your liberal govts do not care about the native people like the British or the Irish, or the French. In fact FINALLY the leader of Germany stepped up and said "multiculturalism has been a Failure"
This is sad, a native Irish/ British woman cannot even get the help she needs. But a African that comes and spreads HIV to multiple women in Europe can get "free healthcare".



They have a right to exist , just like any one els on this planet
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Nov 1, 2010 2:40 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
Veritaas: Absolute nonsense, no matter what argument you might present here in this thread!




here is something to consider
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Nov 1, 2010 2:43 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
Conrad73: I am aware it has been around considerably longer!
Israel is growing most of its Stuff Hydroponically!
You'd probably surprised if you found out how much of the Produce you eat has been grown that way.
And you can roughly triple the yield on your Acreage with relatively simple setups,like the Bengal System for instance.


Interesting Conrad - will look into the Hydropinics....

You may want to look here:

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Nov 1, 2010 2:44 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986: No surprise to me, Israel is a hard-working, developed and well organised nation. Will those efforts be matched across the globe given the signs we see?

And correct me if i'm mistaken but hydrophonics does not solve the problem of the dying honey bee? Which means nature no longer pollinates itself and to do this manually is an insurmountable tast

It is one possible scenario that everything will be ok in the future, but when you look at the world coldly and rationally it is just so unlikely that will be the case.
Type into your search engine: honeybee+greenhouses+canagda for more information on this topic. Also, there is a video out detailing Honeybees and hydroponicschug
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Nov 1, 2010 2:46 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
TrueBlue1986: Why should the Irish suffer for the actions of the 3rd world?


I said nothing about the Irish -though they have an abominable Orphanage problem that is run by the "catholics"

Why can't adoption be a solution to infertile women?
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Nov 1, 2010 2:48 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
CjTenorSax: Type into your search engine: honeybee+greenhouses+canagda for more information on this topic. Also, there is a video out detailing Honeybees and hydroponicsc
Erm, the above should be canada.
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Nov 1, 2010 2:51 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
Serpenta_Manon
Serpenta_ManonSerpenta_ManonHerentals, Antwerpen Belgium19 Threads 1 Polls 2,656 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: I said nothing about the Irish -though they have an abominable Orphanage problem that is run by the "catholics"

Why can't adoption be a solution to infertile women?




Very good suggestion, I'm an adoptive mother, nevertheless I give birth to two children.

The adoption procedure is very hard, and takes quite some time before you get your approval to adopt a child..
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Nov 1, 2010 2:56 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
CjTenorSax: Type into your search engine: honeybee+greenhouses+canagda for more information on this topic. Also, there is a video out detailing Honeybees and hydroponicsc


I believe both species bumble and honey bee are falling in numbers, how does hydroponics get around this problem? I don't seem to be able to find the video and any text just seems to state hydroponics reliance on bees, in one form or another.
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Nov 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
LadyinDublin: how can you come on here and say that? how is it deserved? id like to no what ive done wrong in your eyes? infertility is a curse. its depressing and it eats away at your heart and soul. but dont anyone worry, ill beat it.


thumbs up

You tell him, LB.

And the very best of luck and wishes with your fertility.

Fight with all your heart. heart beating

Jac xxx
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Nov 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST Is infertility becoming more frequent?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: I said nothing about the Irish -though they have an abominable Orphanage problem that is run by the "catholics"

Why can't adoption be a solution to infertile women?


My point is Ireland is developed and it is not responsible for the overpopulation problem, why shouldn't the Irish health service do everthing it can for women and men with fertility problems?
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