ooby_dooby: PLEASE cease and desist from telling them the mistakes they made. All that does is make them harder to detect. Let's keep them stupid as possible.
I haven't ever received an interesting email. I will wait with baited breath..
Having said that, I'm not here for dating so don't pay any attention to mails and I don't read profiles either unless a person has asked for a profile review.
OK! I just received one, from 28 year old white, female, blond, blue eyes & beautiful, from California - she asked me to contact her outside CS. Immediately blocked her!
GatesideJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa41 posts
I just wanna give my two cents word here cause you all seem to think you have a lock down on scammers. I came here a few months ago looking for real love after my divorce and wanted to broaden my horizon interms of dating...I have since had a lot of men contact me from all sorts of backgrounds and also had two white gorgeous men scammers contact me,one of them proposed marriage to me. One of them was apparently mixed race, half English,half Nigerian, apparently inheriting a fortune from his father's estate in Nigeria, looking to relocate to start afresh with a woman like me. One was half Moroccan, half English living in New York. Let me tell you something.. I consider myself an intelligent woman but I really fell hard for these guys...even after realizing they were fake,I was devastated that I had to walk away and still secretly still hoping its all a big mistake.
I know Africa has a bad name on here but we are not all scammers, I too never expected to be scammed by a white gorgeous/wall street type looking white man with blue eyes who claims to have a degree.
I just want everyone to be openminded enough to give everyone a chance before judging them,thats all. There is nothing wrong with being cautious and doing background checks etc but hey we cant all be put in the same box.I 'm starting to ask if they are a scammer...[
Yep I feel spirituality ( or lack thereof ) is a deeply personal matter and something each human must grapple with ( or not ) as they feel called ( or not ) to do. My own beliefs are a bit unorthodox, but I figure that's between me and the man/woman upstairs.
Oh, and I only recently noticed that the viewed me feature is a good way of determining how interested real people are in you, as they return and check out your profile and who'd viewed logs when they do it.
Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA2,218 posts
LittleKing: This is funny. Read my profile when you get a chance. Scammers contact me on a daily basis, it's hilarious
My profile says;
About me and who I'm looking for
About me: Not interested in any type of relationship. Just here for friends. I'm looking for: Not interested in any type of relationship. Just here for friends.
And yet I get emails from so-called women who claim they find my profile interesting and want to know more about me. How stupid can they be?
I just get the odd married person, so i guess it's a scam, they don't ask for money,just act odd and dissapear if too many question are asked.Married people shouldn't come on a singles site
Connected with my profession, myself and some other researchers were asked to research the surge in dating websites, the results are far too long to go into on a blog but here's some of the facts we found.
1) Actually, you are more likely to be scammed by the site owners than the scammers who use the site to commit fraud.Dating websites are now doing what is called "agregating", that is speading by buying foreign websites, thus they have the ability to scam on a large scale but are unlikely to be caught because of the difference in laws and jurisdictions.
2) The most popular dating site scam is re occuring billing, either they do not tell you that their "introductory offer" is then re billed long after the offer period or they "accidently" bill you after you have resigned from the site.
3) The nubers involved are incredible, one site we estimate to be taking at least $29 off 200.000 "members" per rmonth
4) anumber of these sites are controlled from the Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world and mostly run by the Russian Mafia, where your credit card details are used nobody knows
5) Of the 7.000 reported cases of phoney women (and men) contacting existing website members, 82% were estimated to be phoney people placed by the site owners to attract upgrades in membership and increased revenues plus the "accidental" scam revenues. These 2people" will be present on a number of dating websites all with differing profiles
6) By keeping the individual fraudulent transaction amount under $100 per month the sites avoid triggering the International Anti Moneylaundering trackers
7) Currently the top International scam dating websites are Be Naughty.com, cupid.com and the seven other sites they own in USA, Africa,America and other places
8) Credit Card processors are awre of these scams but they take up to 5% of the transaction, therefore have a massive cut from the scam on a global basis, also a majority of people do not report most "small scale transaction" scams.
Chrisys: Connected with my profession, myself and some other researchers were asked to research the surge in dating websites, the results are far too long to go into on a blog but here's some of the facts we found.
1) Actually, you are more likely to be scammed by the site owners than the scammers who use the site to commit fraud.Dating websites are now doing what is called "agregating", that is speading by buying foreign websites, thus they have the ability to scam on a large scale but are unlikely to be caught because of the difference in laws and jurisdictions.
2) The most popular dating site scam is re occuring billing, either they do not tell you that their "introductory offer" is then re billed long after the offer period or they "accidently" bill you after you have resigned from the site.
3) The nubers involved are incredible, one site we estimate to be taking at least $29 off 200.000 "members" per rmonth
4) anumber of these sites are controlled from the Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world and mostly run by the Russian Mafia, where your credit card details are used nobody knows
5) Of the 7.000 reported cases of phoney women (and men) contacting existing website members, 82% were estimated to be phoney people placed by the site owners to attract upgrades in membership and increased revenues plus the "accidental" scam revenues. These 2people" will be present on a number of dating websites all with differing profiles
6) By keeping the individual fraudulent transaction amount under $100 per month the sites avoid triggering the International Anti Moneylaundering trackers
7) Currently the top International scam dating websites are Be Naughty.com, cupid.com and the seven other sites they own in USA, Africa,America and other places
8) Credit Card processors are awre of these scams but they take up to 5% of the transaction, therefore have a massive cut from the scam on a global basis, also a majority of people do not report most "small scale transaction" scams.
jonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK3,691 posts
ooby_dooby: If I've never seen them in the forums I do a complete critical exam of their email, profile, and picture looking for obvious signs of a scam. Things like inconsistancies in their profile like saying they have brown eyes when they are obviously blue or their income is way out of whack to their occupation. Then I compare the verbiage between their email and their profile. If is totally different it tells me it was written by a different person. I've seen profile texts that was half in proper capitalization and part that was all caps DUH! Even little things like puncuation protocols. Then I check out where they claim to live esp if it's in the US. Very often scammers pick places that are just a dot on the map in the middle of nowhere yet they are dressed like they are from Paris. I could write pages here.
I know what your saying and were yea coming from ,,,,but besides you being right about what your saying ,, the other side of things could be there not a scammer ,its just the average inteligence of some people ....
I meet them all the time in reality ,, whats to say they havnt slipped on to here as well ....
Hi, again, re; my last post,perhaps I should have added that there is a risning tide of class action lawsuits in the USA, (where else?) against these scam dating sites, often worth Googaling, site name and words, law suit. some of these scam sites are having to repay money scammed.
As an old man, I am not very IT litterate but he thought occured to me that with face recognition technolgy in use at airport security, perhaps a central data base where you can quickly check the person purporting to be interested against a database consisting of all enquiries.
Another idea perhaps would be to have an independent facility whereby you can submit your details,, (an available automated process)have them verified, and be given a code number which enables genuine people to check if their "contact2 is genuine. Maybe a small charge for the facility but perhaps well worth the peace of mind.
jonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK3,691 posts
Chrisys: Hi, again, re; my last post,perhaps I should have added that there is a risning tide of class action lawsuits in the USA, (where else?) against these scam dating sites, often worth Googaling, site name and words, law suit. some of these scam sites are having to repay money scammed.
As an old man, I am not very IT litterate but he thought occured to me that with face recognition technolgy in use at airport security, perhaps a central data base where you can quickly check the person purporting to be interested against a database consisting of all enquiries.
Another idea perhaps would be to have an independent facility whereby you can submit your details,, (an available automated process)have them verified, and be given a code number which enables genuine people to check if their "contact2 is genuine. Maybe a small charge for the facility but perhaps well worth the peace of mind.
Well your post makes sense ,but this cyber scamming is no different to scamming in the none cyber world ..
People should use there common sense {as much as some have }sorry to sound cynical ,, I AM ...I joined lifes Wide awake club a long time ago ...
Falling victim on these sites is Know different from some falling victim to a builder who hasnt a clue what he is doing or an unquilified repair man ....
GatesideJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa41 posts
I think you are wrong about the filter box. I am not a scammer and sometimes I do initiate contact cause I believe God helps those who helps themselves If I really like a guy, I would flower or email him even if he has blocked my area, hoping he will look at his filter box and find me...so far it hasnt worked butI guess they all probably have the same mindset of generalising scammer behavior
GatesideJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa41 posts
I think you are wrong about the filter box. I am not a scammer and sometimes I do initiate contact cause I believe God helps those who helps themselves If I really like a guy, I would flower or email him even if he has blocked my area, hoping he will look at his filter box and find me...so far it hasnt worked butI guess they all probably have the same mindset of generalising scammer behavior
You could well be right, buyer beware!, however, I really do not want to go through life checking and re checking everything that I do, that would drive me bonkers, (if I am not already). Dating sites such as this one provide a valuable well run service, that's why we are all here. The cynical, crooked and criminal are always going to be amongst us, it just makes life a little easier when you can relax and enjoy something without having to watch for scams all the time.
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