Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone?? (224)

Nov 25, 2010 1:09 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
Jamess1974: wat u mean mature quicky wat my 15 years of service in the army was noting im jus enjoying myself on the road
Hard to believe you have that and did not get these hyjinxes drilled out of you so you would be RESPONSIBLE. A drivers license is a priviledge. One I never gave my Mother-In-Law any regrets for helping me to get trained to obtain one. I was 25 before I got a license. Why? I am Deaf and many trainers did not want to teach me. They had to make special provisions so I could Graduate from HS w/o the required Driver's portion as none of the Coaches whom were also Drivers Ed teachers wanted to TRY to train me.
Nov 25, 2010 1:10 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
estate
estateestatePERTH, Tayside, Scotland UK2 Threads 1,664 Posts
Jamess1974: i think it wasnt fair


Did you have insurance ?
Nov 25, 2010 1:27 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Jamess1974: U know nothing go serve with the rangers c wats it like and when u do come back and tell how it was


I must be getting old.You posted that you weren't allowed to see your mother or talk to her on the phone while she was in the hospital.

I know of two men who are serving their 2nd year in the Army here in the states.When their grandmother was ill and in the hospital they were each given leave to go see her.

I don't understand why you weren't given a leave.It's hard for me to believe that the Army would be that heartless.
Nov 25, 2010 1:33 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
Jamess1974: 25 years wat in the ordinary or special forces??
I am sorry, but to me, this does not wash. My Father was special forces during WWII, Cuba, and part of Korea. He was also subjected to that "Clause" they used to re-activate Him after discharge - many times. Dad was the only one in his class of 16 to return alive. Yet, he built on what the Military gave him. Oh, and he did not much like being military but when they drafted him and trained him, he gave back 150% because it was Honor Bound. Something you seemed to have slept through during that lecture. Basically it means He steped up to the plate and did his duty with honour never once expecting special treatment for having been given such responsibility. You seem to have wanted the title w/o the sweat, blood and tears that should have become gratitude. I know training was not a picknic nor a sashaying walk in the park, but it is not supposed to be. It is supposed to get you to think about the consequences of all actions you make so you survive. Wow, I wish Big John were here. He trainedguys like you to survive.
Nov 25, 2010 1:45 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
Jamess1974: U know nothing go serve with the rangers c wats it like and when u do come back and tell how it was
No offense dude, but Rangers are not all that. Sure they are a step up from the regular infantry, but they are not considered "elite"....Don't get me wrong, Rangers are badass, but again, they are far from the tip of the spear.
Nov 25, 2010 1:55 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
JSuburbia: Not entirely true....I was denied leave (U.S. Army with stateside duty,even though I had about 20days saved up) to go home to see my mother who was put into ICU after falling off a horse...That being said, every military has people who are hardasses that deny such basics things as that. I just happened to have one appointed over me at the time.


But if she was dying they would have allowed you. ICU isn't always deaths door.
Nov 25, 2010 2:08 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
Steve5721: But if she was dying they would have allowed you. ICU isn't always deaths door.
she was seriously jacked up...My 1SG wanted me to go home (his attitude is, if was an emergency to the soldier, it's an emergency to the unit)...but...I had a Warrant Officer that was over me at the time, so I had to go through my chain of command and when it got to him, he wouldn't sign off on it. My captain was going to send me , but he didn't want to break the integrity of the chain of command (which I understood)..

Was just someone flexing their rank and I happened to be the unlucky person who it was getting flexed towards....In all honesty the doctors weren't sure what her condition was going to be because she had severe head trauma..I just happened to catch someone on a bad day is all.

That being said, I don't blame the Army for it. I had a mission critical job and we were short on people, and regardless of what is going on in a soldiers life, mission comes first, that's just a fact of life and honestly that's the way it should be. I hold more of a grudge against the individual however, because in a sense, him & I never had a good working relationship and it just happened to impeed on me having to have gone home at the time.
Nov 25, 2010 2:27 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
JSuburbia: .In all honesty the doctors weren't sure what her condition was going to be because she had severe head trauma..I just happened to catch someone on a bad day is all.

That being said, I don't blame the Army for it. I had a mission critical job and we were short on people, and regardless of what is going on in a soldiers life, mission comes first, that's just a fact of life and honestly that's the way it should be. I hold more of a grudge against the individual however, because in a sense, him & I never had a good working relationship and it just happened to impeed on me having to have gone home at the time.


Not being disrespectful, but as I said, ICU isn't deaths door mate.

I would have hoped that had the problem been terminal, the Captain would have over ruled his WO. In fact, the WO shouldn't have needed to have been over ruled in that sort of situation, IMO.
Nov 25, 2010 2:33 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
Steve5721: Not being disrespectful, but as I said, ICU isn't deaths door mate.

I would have hoped that had the problem been terminal, the Captain would have over ruled his WO. In fact, the WO shouldn't have needed to have been over ruled in that sort of situation, IMO.




I didn't sweat it to much...If anything the job kept it off my mind anyways...Was working about 18-20hrs a day so it kept me busy anyways. The silver lining of it was, I was removed from the WO's command and put directly under the 1SG & CO just ove ra month afterwards. Cut my hours from abotu 18-20hrs per day - around 8hrs which was fantastic. While everyone else worked weekends, I had off. So in the end, things worked out for me as a plus.
Nov 25, 2010 2:37 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
JSuburbia: I didn't sweat it to much...If anything the job kept it off my mind anyways...Was working about 18-20hrs a day so it kept me busy anyways. The silver lining of it was, I was removed from the WO's command and put directly under the 1SG & CO just ove ra month afterwards. Cut my hours from abotu 18-20hrs per day - around 8hrs which was fantastic. While everyone else worked weekends, I had off. So in the end, things worked out for me as a plus.


cheers cheers cheers
Nov 25, 2010 2:45 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
baldydude: ok i know they have clamped down on car tax, but a car has to be out of road tax for at least 2 months before the guards/police can legaly impount a vehicle, so there must be more to that story?


Not any more. It made headlines in all the papers here, it was so much of a shock to everyone. He was only out by one day on his tax.

Up here they do you for everything. No lea-way time. Road stops everywhere. Fines for everything. All hours of the day and night.

Customs are even worse, impounding cars right and left.

Recession must be hitting the Garda hard too, when they will stand out and get frozen for a few quid.wine
Nov 25, 2010 2:47 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Steve5721: I like the UK system where caught without Insurance etc...they take you car and crush it.

I have a feeling that if numbnuts here had done that speed in the UK, his car would have received that same fate.


You're definitely right on that one Steve.hug
Nov 25, 2010 3:29 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
JSuburbia: Not entirely true....I was denied leave (U.S. Army with stateside duty,even though I had about 20days saved up) to go home to see my mother who was put into ICU after falling off a horse...That being said, every military has people who are hardasses that deny such basics things as that. I just happened to have one appointed over me at the time.
If this is what the OP had to contend with, then my apologies for my last post. However, not for my posts on responsibility. OP there is a saying I was raised with: With great power comes great responsibility. Like it or not. Want it or not. You have great talent if you did the soup up work on your car. That talent is Power. Therefore, you have responsibitiy. I would have had far more respect for you having come on here and said, I got this huge fine that made me stop and think. I realize that racing is important to me, (I do it everywhere). So, I have decided to find a Professional willing to take me under his/her wing and give me a shot at this. What do you all think? See the difference?
Nov 25, 2010 3:38 PM CST Is a 3000 euro fine correct for going 290kph in a 100kph zone??
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
CjTenorSax: If this is what the OP had to contend with, then my apologies for my last post. However, not for my posts on responsibility. OP there is a saying I was raised with: With great power comes great responsibility. Like it or not. Want it or not. You have great talent if you did the soup up work on your car. That talent is Power. Therefore, you have responsibitiy. I would have had far more respect for you having come on here and said, I got this huge fine that made me stop and think. I realize that racing is important to me, (I do it everywhere). So, I have decided to find a Professional willing to take me under his/her wing and give me a shot at this. What do you all think? See the difference?


I think it has been established in earlier posts that the maximum fine in Ireland for speeding is 800 euros, so this indicates the other person was err shall we say bending the truth, He has been caught in a lie. However the general discussion about the principle is good.
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