Do u believe in reincarnation? (75)

Feb 2, 2011 1:56 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jodestir
jodestirjodestirNowhere Else, South Australia Australia32 Threads 15 Polls 166 Posts
Jihadmeathello: K, and I am saying that the day reincarnation produces any sort of evidence or shows that there is any logic behind it (despite the fact that population grows exponentially should be enough to show that it is a massively flawed theory) I will entertain the idea. Until then, does it not seem like a waste of time?

Perhaps you are right, but it would be like a caveman pondering Nuclear energy. His theory maybe right, but he was not in the place of time to be able to measure or study the theory. He needed to learn from what he could and what was available. He needed to develop written language, math, physics, etc.. before he could test his theory. Just as I am saying, reincarnation is a possibility, but kind of pointless to focus on since even if it is a fact and not a theory, we are incapable at this stage to study or even approach it. My point is, that just because something is a possibility does not make it worth or time. Who knows, string theory maybe the tool we need to prove reincarnation right or wrong.


... entertaining an idea (that is neither proven to be possible nor impossible) that gives mankind a glimmer of a smile that there in fact COULD BE another life after this one is definitely worthwhile in my book ... It's a far preferred outlook than one of ** you die .. you're gone .. pffft! that's it ... *** maccas for maggots ... ******
Feb 2, 2011 2:02 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Jihadmeathello: K, and I am saying that the day reincarnation produces any sort of evidence or shows that there is any logic behind it (despite the fact that population grows exponentially should be enough to show that it is a massively flawed theory) I will entertain the idea. Until then, does it not seem like a waste of time?

Perhaps you are right, but it would be like a caveman pondering Nuclear energy. His theory maybe right, but he was not in the place of time to be able to measure or study the theory. He needed to learn from what he could and what was available. He needed to develop written language, math, physics, etc.. before he could test his theory. Just as I am saying, reincarnation is a possibility, but kind of pointless to focus on since even if it is a fact and not a theory, we are incapable at this stage to study or even approach it. My point is, that just because something is a possibility does not make it worth or time. Who knows, string theory maybe the tool we need to prove reincarnation right or wrong.


For those not up to date on string theory

So what is the theory, then?
. Think of a guitar string that has been tuned by stretching the string under tension across the guitar. Depending on how the string is plucked and how much tension is in the string, different musical notes will be created by the string. These musical notes could be said to be excitation modes of that guitar string under tension.
. In a similar manner, in string theory, the elementary particles we observe in particle accelerators could be thought of as the "musical notes" or excitation modes of elementary strings.
. In string theory, as in guitar playing, the string must be stretched under tension in order to become excited. However, the strings in string theory are floating in spacetime, they aren't tied down to a guitar. Nonetheless, they have tension. The string tension in string theory is denoted by the quantity 1/(2 p a'), where a' is pronounced "alpha prime"and is equal to the square of the string length scale.
. If string theory is to be a theory of quantum gravity, then the average size of a string should be somewhere near the length scale of quantum gravity, called the Planck length, which is about 10-33 centimeters, or about a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a centimeter. Unfortunately, this means that strings are way too small to see by current or expected particle physics technology (or financing!!) and so string theorists must devise more clever methods to test the theory than just looking for little strings in particle experiments.
. String theories are classified according to whether or not the strings are required to be closed loops, and whether or not the particle spectrum includes fermions. In order to include fermions in string theory, there must be a special kind of symmetry called supersymmetry, which means for every boson (particle that transmits a force) there is a corresponding fermion (particle that makes up matter). So supersymmetry relates the particles that transmit forces to the particles that make up matter.
. Supersymmetric partners to to currently known particles have not been observed in particle experiments, but theorists believe this is because supersymmetric particles are too massive to be detected at current accelerators. Particle accelerators could be on the verge of finding evidence for high energy supersymmetry in the next decade. Evidence for supersymmetry at high energy would be compelling evidence that string theory was a good mathematical model for Nature at the smallest distance scales.




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Feb 2, 2011 2:05 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jodestir: ... entertaining an idea (that is neither proven to be possible nor impossible) that gives mankind a glimmer of a smile that there in fact COULD BE another life after this one is definitely worthwhile in my book ... It's a far preferred outlook than one of ** you die .. you're gone .. pffft! that's it ... *** maccas for maggots ... ******


I don't at all, I think clinging on to the hope that people will last forever makes some people lazy. I think realizing that there is a strong possibility and likelihood that you will just become worm dirt should motivate people to live meaningful lives and not waste it on frivolous and meaningless garbage that most do.

The counter question is, what if you did live your life in a way you found dull, boring, and un-meaningful, and then you did become worm dirt, and poof, life is gone. Did you live a life in a full way that was fair and just and one you can be proud of? Are you going to leave it to chance that you get another shot or are you going to take advantage of the one shot you have and make the most of it?

We don't know if there is an afterlife, or if we come back in another form, so to me, best be living this life we have now in a way that makes it meaningful. Cause if you don't, it might be in every sense of the phrase, a waste of life.
Feb 2, 2011 2:05 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
Anelenav
AnelenavAnelenavKaunas, Aukštaitija Lithuania235 Posts
jodestir: Is there an after life?


No. Just people are afraid of death, so they created stories about after life to make themselves feel better. doh laugh
Feb 2, 2011 2:09 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
exfaa
exfaaexfaamalaga, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 627 Posts
Anelenav: No. Just people are afraid of death, so they created stories about after life to make themselves feel better.

i want to come back as a womans bicycle saddle rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 2, 2011 2:10 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
tomcatwarne: For those not up to date on string theory

So what is the theory, then?
. Think of a guitar string that has been tuned by stretching the string under tension across the guitar. Depending on how the string is plucked and how much tension is in the string, different musical notes will be created by the string. These musical notes could be said to be excitation modes of that guitar string under tension.
. In a similar manner, in string theory, the elementary particles we observe in particle accelerators could be thought of as the "musical notes" or excitation modes of elementary strings.
. In string theory, as in guitar playing, the string must be stretched under tension in order to become excited. However, the strings in string theory are floating in spacetime, they aren't tied down to a guitar. Nonetheless, they have tension. The string tension in string theory is denoted by the quantity 1/(2 p a'), where a' is pronounced "alpha prime"and is equal to the square of the string length scale.
. If string theory is to be a theory of quantum gravity, then the average size of a string should be somewhere near the length scale of quantum gravity, called the Planck length, which is about 10-33 centimeters, or about a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a centimeter. Unfortunately, this means that strings are way too small to see by current or expected particle physics technology (or financing!!) and so string theorists must devise more clever methods to test the theory than just looking for little strings in particle experiments.
. String theories are classified according to whether or not the strings are required to be closed loops, and whether or not the particle spectrum includes fermions. In order to include fermions in string theory, there must be a special kind of symmetry called supersymmetry, which means for every boson (particle that transmits a force) there is a corresponding fermion (particle that makes up matter). So supersymmetry relates the particles that transmit forces to the particles that make up matter.
. Supersymmetric partners to to currently known particles have not been observed in particle experiments, but theorists believe this is because supersymmetric particles are too massive to be detected at current accelerators. Particle accelerators could be on the verge of finding evidence for high energy supersymmetry in the next decade. Evidence for supersymmetry at high energy would be compelling evidence that string theory was a good mathematical model for Nature at the smallest distance scales.

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I am no quantum physicist, but I get the basics. However, I think discussing problems like how do you take a zero dimensional object based on a model of two dimensions (the guitar string)? Is a bit advanced for this class laugh
Feb 2, 2011 2:21 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jodestir
jodestirjodestirNowhere Else, South Australia Australia32 Threads 15 Polls 166 Posts
Jihadmeathello: I don't at all, I think clinging on to the hope that people will last forever makes some people lazy. I think realizing that there is a strong possibility and likelihood that you will just become worm dirt should motivate people to live meaningful lives and not waste it on frivolous and meaningless garbage that most do.

The counter question is, what if you did live your life in a way you found dull, boring, and un-meaningful, and then you did become worm dirt, and poof, life is gone. Did you live a life in a full way that was fair and just and one you can be proud of? Are you going to leave it to chance that you get another shot or are you going to take advantage of the one shot you have and make the most of it?

We don't know if there is an afterlife, or if we come back in another form, so to me, best be living this life we have now in a way that makes it meaningful. Cause if you don't, it might be in every sense of the phrase, a waste of life.


... frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated i give up ... u r simply reading things into my comments that are totally NOT there .. in some vain attempt to win some ridiculous argument you've created yourself out of nothing .... I liVE MY LIFE today with an abundance of daily enthusiasm .. & i don't take one second of it for granted .. I don't give a crap if this life is the only one i get .. because i plan to sponge up every single day of it that's left .. If reincarnation does in fact become a reality .. all the better.. I will continue THAT life in the manner I spend my current one..


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Feb 2, 2011 2:23 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jodestir
jodestirjodestirNowhere Else, South Australia Australia32 Threads 15 Polls 166 Posts
exfaa: i want to come back as a womans bicycle saddle



laugh laugh laugh laugh
Feb 2, 2011 2:24 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
I do believe in an after life, but not reincarnation.
Feb 2, 2011 2:25 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
Littlebuck
LittlebuckLittlebuckWarren, Arkansas USA6 Threads 127 Posts
Reincarnation? If a woman loses her carnation at a dance, I think a guy should see she gets reincarnated so you won't look out of place! grin
Feb 2, 2011 2:26 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
jodestir: ... i give up ... u r simply reading things into my comments that are totally NOT there .. in some vain attempt to win some ridiculous argument you've created yourself out of nothing .... I liVE MY LIFE today with an abundance of daily enthusiasm .. & i don't take one second of it for granted .. I don't give a crap if this life is the only one i get .. because i plan to sponge up every single day of it that's left .. If reincarnation does in fact become a reality .. all the better.. I will continue THAT life in the manner I spend my current one..



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Feb 2, 2011 2:26 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jodestir: ... i give up ... u r simply reading things into my comments that are totally NOT there .. in some vain attempt to win some ridiculous argument you've created yourself out of nothing .... I liVE MY LIFE today with an abundance of daily enthusiasm .. & i don't take one second of it for granted .. I don't give a crap if this life is the only one i get .. because i plan to sponge up every single day of it that's left .. If reincarnation does in fact become a reality .. all the better.. I will continue THAT life in the manner I spend my current one..


I believe you made a thread asking people if they believe in an after life and asked them for their thoughts on reincarnation. I gave mine. Sorry if you don't like it. laugh
Feb 2, 2011 2:26 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
tomcatwarne: (youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hlw_9ldThs


Feb 2, 2011 2:35 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
exfaa
exfaaexfaamalaga, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 627 Posts
Littlebuck: Reincarnation? If a woman loses her carnation at a dance, I think a guy should see she gets reincarnated so you won't look out of place!

when womenlose their cherry,they still have the box it came in rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 2, 2011 3:00 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
Using our mind in carefully examining in what way does my body exist? At best I think you might conclude every aspect of my body exists in interdependent's.
My name is merely a label and every aspect of my being is in a constant flux of change. So then in what way do I/we exist?
My conclusion moving energy and it is moving energy that passes from life to life.

The fundamental bases of Christianity and Islam is reincarnation, (the resurrection), as it is in Hindu and Buddhist teachings. Reincarnation to my mind is driven by the certainty of the laws of cause and effect, its certain for as long as there being a cause.
Feb 2, 2011 4:10 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
yep I do conversing
Feb 2, 2011 4:11 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
illu_66
illu_66illu_66Here, Andalusia Spain31 Threads 3 Polls 2,368 Posts
I had this discussion once before. When I was a field nurse in the first world war!!!
Feb 2, 2011 6:00 AM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
gleneagle
gleneaglegleneagleNew York City, New York USA36 Threads 3 Polls 1,147 Posts
No but I like the idea. Believing something to be true doesent make it a fact. I look in the nirror and think "handsome guy" but yet the CS women are not screaming like beatles fans at my window.
jodestir: Is there an after life?
Feb 2, 2011 3:28 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jodestir
jodestirjodestirNowhere Else, South Australia Australia32 Threads 15 Polls 166 Posts
Littlebuck: Reincarnation? If a woman loses her carnation at a dance, I think a guy should see she gets reincarnated so you won't look out of place!


laugh very clever .. and very funny ... banana
Feb 5, 2011 7:52 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
jodestir: Is there an after life?


Yes, there is. NDE research makes a strong case.

I have not read this thread, so I may later on for a discussion.

And whatever existence comes next, may not be Earthly---as many people assume.
Feb 5, 2011 7:59 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Yes I think the soul is eternal wine
Feb 5, 2011 8:06 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
ninamil
ninamilninamilGoiania, Goias Brazil31 Threads 1 Polls 696 Posts
Probably. There are many spirits among us who still do not reincarnating dunno
Feb 5, 2011 8:06 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
elienebrazil
elienebrazilelienebrazilsomewhere, Sao Paulo Brazil2 Threads 714 Posts
if the matter is not destroyed we can become(an ant?) something, in the materialistic sense.
Towards of energy there is a possibility, however, would be a different life, I say without body
dunno confused
Feb 5, 2011 8:09 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
no, i don't...patton did...uh oh laugh

why is it that most people who claim to be reincarnated seem to always been someone famous in there previous life...why can't they have been an unknown janitor or something ?...professor laugh
Feb 5, 2011 8:12 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
elienebrazil
elienebrazilelienebrazilsomewhere, Sao Paulo Brazil2 Threads 714 Posts
jodestir: Is there an after life?
This a nice theat to mebouquet
Feb 5, 2011 8:13 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
kcuc0574
kcuc0574kcuc0574Ho Chi Minh, Southeast Vietnam Vietnam10 Threads 3 Polls 2,003 Posts
StressFree: Yes, there is. NDE research makes a strong case.

I have not read this thread, so I may later on for a discussion.

And whatever existence comes next, may not be Earthly---as many people assume.


thumbs up i think there will be ...
but i dont expect this life, if our dead body was burnt in to ash, whether there will be an after life or not, grin
Feb 5, 2011 8:17 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
jlw45: no, i don't...patton did...

why is it that most people who claim to be reincarnated seem to always been someone famous in there previous life...why can't they have been an unknown janitor or something ?...


Many people have reported mundane past lives. In fact, the majority have done that according to all the Near Death Experience documentations I have read. I have yet to hear anybody say that they were somebody famous in a past life.

There are also different classifications for NDE's. For most people who had a NDE, their outlook on this lifetime changed for the better with a new perspective as well as having a healthy perspective towards physical death---they don't fear it and embrace it because they know what awaits them. Ah, much more to this. I'm too lazy to go into more detail, but I have been studying and researching this for years now.
Feb 5, 2011 8:18 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Yes, it has been proven here on CS many times .......laugh
Feb 5, 2011 8:21 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RDM59: Yes, it has been proven here on CS many times .......


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Feb 5, 2011 8:24 PM CST Do u believe in reincarnation?
elienebrazil
elienebrazilelienebrazilsomewhere, Sao Paulo Brazil2 Threads 714 Posts
RDM59: As long as he didn't ask for pocket money in advance .....
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