ttom500: The prosecution in the Jarel Loughlens case is asking a judge for handwriting samples to be made. Seems Louglens left a number of hand written notebooks at Louglens home. Also that there was a envelope with Giffords name hand written on it.
Mr. Louglen's notebooks might tell us a great deal about his ideology and his associates......
katt1017: Wonder if there is a big "O" on the cover? Not that big "O" you prevs!
I would like to read them Katt.....but the prosecution has them all in secure and sealed envelopes right now. Likely all we are going to ever hear is the more bizarre thoughts of Loughlens.
ttom500: I would like to read them Katt.....but the prosecution has them all in secure and sealed envelopes right now. Likely all we are going to ever hear is the more bizarre thoughts of Loughlens.
The sad thing is that this guy was displaying warning signs for a very long time. People were more interested in getting him out of their line of sight instead of getting him the help he needed or at very least having him under control so something like this would not happen.
Their part in this is not brought before the public.
Instead the talking heads blame firearms, Palin, The Tea Party or anyone else on the list of who the media wants us to hate and fear this week.
A lot of lives have been messed up and lost because a few people along the way that could have done something and more importantly those that SHOULD have done something chose instead to turn their heads and hope that the next person down the road would deal with it.
We are going to have a major stink coming when health care cases get to the Supreme court.
Senator Hatch of Utah is requesting that Supreme Judge Kagan recuse herself because of conflict of interest.
Kagan.....participated in the Obama administration as a attroney in DoJ and both discussed it and defended it.
VA Atroeny General Cuccinelli is going to file on Obamacare this week and take it straight to the Supreme Court. That will make 29 state to file legals on the bill. And the REP top gun AG doing the legal work in the Supreme Court on the case.
This is one Supreme Court hearing...that is going to be sold out. AG Holder has to make the presentation for Obama...anything less would be disrespecting the court. Cuccunelli is one of the best legal minds that the REP have. This boy would like to be there to listen to the arguments.
But back to Kagan....it is her choice to recuse herself. All the gov't leader can do is what Hatch just did....make a public request. While you have to know from the White House and Harry Ried office, having Kagan recuse herself is a big nono.
I don't see it happening. I remember the State of the Union, President Obama spent a lot of time shaking Kagan hand in front of the cameras. And it was his appointment and Ried approval that got her the seat on bench.....so I think that Hatch is killing a dead horse here.
During the past two decades, radical environmental and animal rights groups have claimed responsibility for hundreds of crimes and acts of terrorism, including arson, bombings, vandalism and harassment, causing more than $100 million in damage. While some activists have been captured, ecoterror cells - small and loosely affiliated - are extremely difficult to identify and most attacks remain unsolved. Although it has been overshadowed by Islamic terrorist threats since September 11, ecoterrorism remains one of the country's most active terrorist movements.
At least they don't have the German army, navy and air force to require that we all eat our veggies and protect the planet from harm. Though blowing a excessive amounts of holes in it...during war time...does seem to be environmentally unfriendly.
JeanMarlowMiddle of Nowhere, California USA815 posts
Hot_Single_Dude: What a bout Obama,s promisses?
Some people say president Obama have not kept any of his promisses so far and that is why somenpeople feeling frustrated and are removing their support from this presidnet. But... is this the whole truth any way?
Have this presidnet not kept all promisses of him which were possible to keep so far?
I mean... We are talking a bout America... a free country... a country not runned by a King and where the power is not particulary in the president,s hands alone and a lot complicated issues must being taken cared of before a law becomes reality or before a promise can be kept... concidering this and cocidering the massive job this president took over and concidering a Republican party which since day one this president took over sweared to do any thing possible or even impossible to imagine efforts to weaken and crashing this president ... preisdent Obama have done pretty great any way!
-Extend child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixe
-Create an Advanced Manufacturing Fund to invest in peer-reviewed manufacturing processes
-Increase minority access to capital
-Require economic justification for tax changes
-Implement "Women Owned Business" contracting program
-Change standards for determining broadband access
-Establish a credit card bill of rights
-Expand loan programs for small businesses
-Extend the Bush tax cuts for lower incomes
-Extend and index the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch
-Close the "doughnut hole" in Medicare prescription drug plan
-Expand the Senior Corps volunteer program
-Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions
-Give tax credits to those who need help to pay health premiums
-Require large employers to contribute to a national health plan
-Require children to have health insurance coverage
-Expand eligibility for Medicaid
-Expand eligibility for the Medicaid and SCHIP programs and ensure that these programs continue to serve their critical safety net function."
-Expand eligibility for State Children's Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP)
-Require health plans to disclose how much of the premium goes to patient care
-Establish an independent health institute to provide accurate and objective information
Plus a lot more other promisses under his campain kept so far and many ohters in progress...
What is sure is no ameircan or any other preisdents and heads of nations have EVER been able to keep all promisses made during campains because politicsin democratic countries is such a complicated puzzle and things are much diffucult to figur out... before actually becoming the preisdent of the country one trying to figur out stuff, and then when winning the presidnency the same one finding out how long time things actually taking time beofre possible getting done and how hard it is to get the agreements necessary amoung decision makers in the country.
Seeing preisdent Obama actually have been keeping most of his promisses even there have never been an opposition agianst him as massive as the Republican party of Aemrica have shown , then we are talking a bout an absollutely outstanding acheivment from Obama so far! Way to go and WOW!
Obama Rocks! Yes we can!
Had to bring this thread in a gain... some thing happened and many threads went off this site all of sudden ...
Feel free to participate ladeis and gents...
According to the poll results, 39% of the people on CS forums are liberals/democrates and the rest are conservatives/republicans. Sounds about right. Obviously more democrats than republicans are busy with their lives and or in fulfilling relationships. Yep.
Annually Medicare and Medicaide fraud cost the country .....$60b
Yes am coughing here here as well. Maybe a little bit of a gag with the cough. That is $194 per person in the country.
So the totally annually spent on these two programs is.....$477b medicare in 2009 and $204b in 2008 for medicaide....or $681b for both.
Of which...8.8% goes to fraud.
Now Obamacare is very similar to these two government programs in that the government is going to approval the billing and charge of the all the countries medical programs. The total 10 year cost for Obama care is $907b.
Taking the same fraud rate of 8.8%..that amount of fraud that this will cost the American taxpayer is.............$79.8b or $259 per every person (308m) in the country.
Coughing and gagging alot more now aren't you? Combined they cost every American....$453 per year in fraud.
JeanMarlow: According to the poll results, 39% of the people on CS forums are liberals/democrates and the rest are conservatives/republicans. Sounds about right. Obviously more democrats than republicans are busy with their lives and or in fulfilling relationships. Yep.
Hi Jean..................or MAYBE, more Republicans than Democrates are engage in the process of sound political judgement.........
With Ronald Reagon Birthday up on us....the debate between Sarah Palin and his Son...both working throwing cudos from one hand while bashing with the other.
I thought a Reagon quote might be approriate.
The No 36, of 365 Ways to Drive a Liberal Crazy.
Nine little words that drive liberals into a frenzy:
"I'm from the government and I am here to help."
You have to admit when Ron was not sleeping....we now know he had a early stage of alzhiemer while in Office. He could knock holes in the USS Entitlement (liberal delivery vessel) of the day, with only a few choice firings.
Frequently call the most terrifying words that a American hear. Ronald Reagon choose the hand up rather than the hand out.
JeanMarlow: According to the poll results, 39% of the people on CS forums are liberals/democrates and the rest are conservatives/republicans. Sounds about right. Obviously more democrats than republicans are busy with their lives and or in fulfilling relationships. Yep.
...........and you gleaned all that from an Poll on an International Dating-Forum?
AgntProvocateur: From the Congressional Record, January 26, 2011, Page H503. It was posted on the Veterans Today website.
The tough question that remains is was this done deliberately to create the justification to redesign the Middle East, as many neo- conservatives desired, and to secure oil supplies for the West; or was it just a diplomatic blunder followed up by many more strategic military blunders? Regardless, we have blundered into a war that no one seems willing to end. Julian Assange, the publisher of the WikiLeaks memo, is now considered an enemy of the state. Politicians are calling for drastic punishment and even assassination; and, sadly, the majority of the American people seem to support such moves.
But why should we so fear the truth? Why should our government’s lies and mistakes be hidden from the American people in the name of patriotism? Once it becomes acceptable to equate truth with treason, we can no longer call ourselves a free society.”
The tough question that remains is "which" documents did Assange decide to "selectively" make public and why......how many of the publicized documents were posed out of context to serve one man's purpose........is transparency to be placed above human life......is Assange an expert on military maneuvers in the Middle East, or does his true expertise lie in his ability to "HACK" and "STEAL"......what are the "real" implications of Julian Assange's theft and exposure of classified government documents......... what, if any, ulterior motives does Assange have.......WHO GAVE JULIAN ASSANGE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO LIVES OR DIES.....
What lies? for you the most important of him is him being a "Muslim" right *JlW? He is no muslim and really if he was then what?
Dude, this is part of an article I found about your precious Obama.
BARACK OBAMA-THE MUSLIM CHRISTIAN?
Posted: 07/08/08
Barack Obama-the Muslim Christian?
by Jill Martin Rische
In the crazy world of American politics, it should come as no surprise when a fast-talking presidential candidate attempts, yet again, to redefine Christianity.
This time around, we have Barack Obama and his cohort of political reformationists nailing their 95 Theses smack dab in the middle of our foreheads. "I am a Christian!" Obama proclaims from rooftops all over America as swooning women breathe his name like a prayer. The junior Senator from Illinois has become the messiah of millions: Obama will cure what ails American society and-yes-the world. Change We Can Believe In is his mantra, ringing like a funeral dirge to the few who remember that change is not always good.
Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro (his name throughout his Muslim youth) claims to be a "committed Christian" and yet the emerging truth about him is a study in contradiction and frankly, alarming: I am a Christian (but I was a devout Muslim); I am a Christian (but I never renounced Islam); I am a Christian (but there is more than one way to God). Add to this the fact that Barack Obama flatly denies his Muslim roots, even labeling the word Muslim a "smear," and suddenly the question of integrity pops into the picture. Who is telling the truth: Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro or his relatives, teachers, and childhood friends?
Eyewitness testimony, reported on credible websites, reveals that Barack Obama was raised Muslim and was, in fact, quite devout throughout his youth. Today, Senator Obama states that his "Christian" faith is not the only way to God, and he rejects Christian positions on key moral issues. Finally, he never formally renounced the Islamic faith he followed until he met his wife, Michelle.
So who, exactly, is Barack Obama? It's only fair to let the man speak for himself:
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ttom500: The contested land between Iraq and Kuwait at the time time were going thru a form of Islamic litigation. The reference that we have "we take no position" is in reference to the litigation.
Had the United States taken a position....we would have been meddling in Arab affairs.
ttom500: The contested land between Iraq and Kuwait at the time time were going thru a form of Islamic litigation. The reference that we have "we take no position" is in reference to the litigation.
Had the United States taken a position....we would have been meddling in Arab affairs.
But this is another reason why wikileaks is dangerous. Not just that it places many into further harms was from identification. Or from a military or covert operation becoming known.
But the ease at which a totally errored conclusion can be drawn from the statements of the time. Thus bending or breaking international friendships of long standing.
ttom500: But this is another reason why wikileaks is dangerous. Not just that it places many into further harms was from identification. Or from a military or covert operation becoming known.
But the ease at which a totally errored conclusion can be drawn from the statements of the time. Thus bending or breaking international friendships of long standing.
Yes TT!!!!!!....it is important to be able to identify all the consequences of illegal or covert actions by a party of one acting on a WORLD WIDE stage
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Mr. Louglen's notebooks might tell us a great deal about his ideology and his associates......
Wonder if there is a big "O" on the cover?
Not that big "O" you prevs!