One child in elementary school has a P-nut allergy. Should the school (276)
maryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 PostsWhy should all the children have restrict themselves because of one or a few other children.Can't these parents teach their children not to eat anything that may have peanuts in them because it might kill them?When they go over to a friends house do they also make the parents get rid of anything that may contain peanuts as well?
Amity: I know what you mean..
Really..
But it seems generations are becoming more and more prone to things..
My son for example suffers badly from asthma...all my children have had it but he suffers REALLY badly.
He has been in hospital 5 times and hes only 4.
Really..
But it seems generations are becoming more and more prone to things..
My son for example suffers badly from asthma...all my children have had it but he suffers REALLY badly.
He has been in hospital 5 times and hes only 4.
That is hard Ams! My nephew's asthma was horrendous as child
Sometimes though, I think that there comes a point where some parents are "overly enthusiastic" in wanting to ensure that their child and only their child's needs are met and forget that a school can only do so much.
It is not hard to ask that certain items not be brought into schools, peanuts, honey, etc. and have it be the standard across the school system.
Although, I believe that parents should first and foremost teach their children about their allergies and how to cope in certain situations. My daughter is highly allergic to band-aids, something in the makeup of the "sticky stuff" causes her to go into hives; from a very young age, she learned to tell school nurses not to put a band-aid on a cut, just let her apply pressure to stop the bleeding. Even though it was listed in her school chart, not all nurses, teachers, have the time to read files.
There certainly isn't a lack of empathy for a child that would have that problem. I understand that for sure.
There are also kids (people) that have allergies to milk and egg products. Eventually schools would be down to serving tofu 5 days a week.
Our culture is so sensitive that we're almost to a state of paralysis.
There are also kids (people) that have allergies to milk and egg products. Eventually schools would be down to serving tofu 5 days a week.
Our culture is so sensitive that we're almost to a state of paralysis.
maryrachelle: Why should all the children have restrict themselves because of one or a few other children.Can't these parents teach their children not to eat anything that may have peanuts in them because it might kill them?When they go over to a friends house do they also make the parents get rid of anything that may contain peanuts as well?
Actually yes i would ask the parents to keep anything with nuts away from my child..Like now i will not allow my son in smokey atmospheres due to his asthma.
Its wonderful to see community spirit in people.
amahlala: That is hard Ams! My nephew's asthma was horrendous as child
Sometimes though, I think that there comes a point where some parents are "overly enthusiastic" in wanting to ensure that their child and only their child's needs are met and forget that a school can only do so much.
It is not hard to ask that certain items not be brought into schools, peanuts, honey, etc. and have it be the standard across the school system.
Although, I believe that parents should first and foremost teach their children about their allergies and how to cope in certain situations. My daughter is highly allergic to band-aids, something in the makeup of the "sticky stuff" causes her to go into hives; from a very young age, she learned to tell school nurses not to put a band-aid on a cut, just let her apply pressure to stop the bleeding. Even though it was listed in her school chart, not all nurses, teachers, have the time to read files.
Sometimes though, I think that there comes a point where some parents are "overly enthusiastic" in wanting to ensure that their child and only their child's needs are met and forget that a school can only do so much.
It is not hard to ask that certain items not be brought into schools, peanuts, honey, etc. and have it be the standard across the school system.
Although, I believe that parents should first and foremost teach their children about their allergies and how to cope in certain situations. My daughter is highly allergic to band-aids, something in the makeup of the "sticky stuff" causes her to go into hives; from a very young age, she learned to tell school nurses not to put a band-aid on a cut, just let her apply pressure to stop the bleeding. Even though it was listed in her school chart, not all nurses, teachers, have the time to read files.
Hell, I've become allergic to women.
Amity: Actually yes i would ask the parents to keep anything with nuts away from my child..
Like now i will not allow my son in smokey atmospheres due to his asthma.
Its wonderful to see community spirit in people.
Like now i will not allow my son in smokey atmospheres due to his asthma.
Its wonderful to see community spirit in people.
You hit the nail on the head. You work to control his environment.
amahlala: That is hard Ams! My nephew's asthma was horrendous as child
Sometimes though, I think that there comes a point where some parents are "overly enthusiastic" in wanting to ensure that their child and only their child's needs are met and forget that a school can only do so much.
It is not hard to ask that certain items not be brought into schools, peanuts, honey, etc. and have it be the standard across the school system.
Although, I believe that parents should first and foremost teach their children about their allergies and how to cope in certain situations. My daughter is highly allergic to band-aids, something in the makeup of the "sticky stuff" causes her to go into hives; from a very young age, she learned to tell school nurses not to put a band-aid on a cut, just let her apply pressure to stop the bleeding. Even though it was listed in her school chart, not all nurses, teachers, have the time to read files.
Sometimes though, I think that there comes a point where some parents are "overly enthusiastic" in wanting to ensure that their child and only their child's needs are met and forget that a school can only do so much.
It is not hard to ask that certain items not be brought into schools, peanuts, honey, etc. and have it be the standard across the school system.
Although, I believe that parents should first and foremost teach their children about their allergies and how to cope in certain situations. My daughter is highly allergic to band-aids, something in the makeup of the "sticky stuff" causes her to go into hives; from a very young age, she learned to tell school nurses not to put a band-aid on a cut, just let her apply pressure to stop the bleeding. Even though it was listed in her school chart, not all nurses, teachers, have the time to read files.
I understand completely hun....but when a child is too young to understand then as adults we have to take the role of "looking out" for them.
But understand completely what you are saying..
Just seems so sad to see people getting their knickers twisted over not having peanut butter for lunch....at the sake of a childs life
amahlala: Want a band-aid?
You'd have to use gauze. Wrap me like a mummy.
In response to: Bee stings cause the same reaction. My foster sis growing up was severly allergic. She carried a pen and had one in the nurses office...She was aware and didnt put herself into situations where she might get stung...Like playing in long grass for example. Years later as a sole support parent. I relied on those pbj lunches to get me through sometimes. I wonder what poor parents do now if they cant send PB for lunch on occasion?
The difference between a bee allergy and a peanut allergy is that a bee allergy is unpreventable.Even if you never went outside,,anytime someone opens a door or a window a bee can get inside.I know of no peanut that can fly around and bite you.Just staying away from all peanuts,or anything that may contain peanuts will save your life.
Are we also too get rid of anything sugary since there are diabetic children? If a child loads up on sugar and has diabetes they can easily die.
Amity: I know what you mean..
Really..
But it seems generations are becoming more and more prone to things..
My son for example suffers badly from asthma...all my children have had it but he suffers REALLY badly.
He has been in hospital 5 times and hes only 4.
Really..
But it seems generations are becoming more and more prone to things..
My son for example suffers badly from asthma...all my children have had it but he suffers REALLY badly.
He has been in hospital 5 times and hes only 4.
My middle nephew has bad asthma and my youngest daughter also suffers from allergies. It does seem to be on the upswing. My personal feeling is, its connected to environmental pollutions. However, like my nephew has learned and Im sure you are teaching your son, how to manage it. Awareness and self responsibilty. As I have taught my daughter to avoid things that cause her allergic reactions. In the case of peanut allergies for example, I do agree there needs to be a solution. I just dont feel going to the extreme is it. Perhaps something middle ground would be better so that kids are also taught compromise, as well as all important life lessons like self awareness/responsibilty. But to ban ALL nut content or ALL make-up federally, is too extreme, unbalanced. I think it teaches negative lessons instead.
maryrachelle: Why should all the children have restrict themselves because of one or a few other children.Can't these parents teach their children not to eat anything that may have peanuts in them because it might kill them?When they go over to a friends house do they also make the parents get rid of anything that may contain peanuts as well?
Canada is a tolerant society. That means sometimes the majority will adapt for the minority. Most of us believe its only fair a child with severe allergies has the same right to be able to go to school and to be SAFE!
Guns and knives are not allowed at school because they are not safe and could hurt someone, and its the same case when there is a child with a severe allergy to peanuts. We create a peanut free environment so that child can go to school and be safe at that school.
Before the gunfire starts, I think I'll go back to Dude's thread...where it's safe. 
maryrachelle: The difference between a bee allergy and a peanut allergy is that a bee allergy is unpreventable.Even if you never went outside,,anytime someone opens a door or a window a bee can get inside.I know of no peanut that can fly around and bite you.Just staying away from all peanuts,or anything that may contain peanuts will save your life.Are we also too get rid of anything sugary since there are diabetic children? If a child loads up on sugar and has diabetes they can easily die.
O man!! MC, did you hear about the case of trying to sue the fast food industry for causing obesity? Come on!! Consumer advocate groups...theres some extremists for you??
venusenvy: O man!! MC, did you hear about the case of trying to sue the fast food industry for causing obesity? Come on!! Consumer advocate groups...theres some extremists for you??
Sad part, they'll probably win. No one wants to take any responsibility for themselves anymore.
In response to: Are we also too get rid of anything sugary since there are diabetic children? If a child loads up on sugar and has diabetes they can easily die.
Although you are ignoring me due to someone telling you to
I really need to state that diabetics have to control there food intake from sugars to carbs.And yes...schools will be made aware of their situation and monitored.
Thanks for reading.
I ticked the option 'tell kids that peanuts can kill their classmate" but thinking about it that could be dangerous, very dangerous. 
In response to: Guns and knives are not allowed at school because they are not safe and could hurt someone, and its the same case when there is a child with a severe allergy to peanuts. We create a peanut free environment so that child can go to school and be safe at that school.
The difference is guns and knives can hurt or kill anyone.Peanuts can't.Just like the parent of the diabetic child has to teach their child to stay away from sugar because it can kill them,the parent of the child with the peanut allergy has to teach their child to stay away from anything with peanuts in it.
venusenvy: O man!! MC, did you hear about the case of trying to sue the fast food industry for causing obesity? Come on!! Consumer advocate groups...theres some extremists for you??
Not about a man,but I did hear of the two young women who tried to sue Mcdonalds for making them fat.
A lot of school systems have banned certain items from entering school grounds, such as weapons but also ban some food items such as sodas, candy, and gum.
It isn't all that hard to ask a school district to ban peanuts in the school. Getting it passed though might be hard but if it is in the best interests of the children in the school, then most districts would be willing to do so.
It isn't all that hard to ask a school district to ban peanuts in the school. Getting it passed though might be hard but if it is in the best interests of the children in the school, then most districts would be willing to do so.
Personally, I would not stop sending my child to school with P&J sandwichs. I would inform the school to make sure the allergic child and the staff is aware of that.
It is the parents responsibility to educate their allergic child of the dangers he faces. The parents need to understand that their childs allergy is something that they need to address and make changes in their life. Not expect everyone else to change to suit their needs.
It is the parents responsibility to educate their allergic child of the dangers he faces. The parents need to understand that their childs allergy is something that they need to address and make changes in their life. Not expect everyone else to change to suit their needs.
amahlala: A lot of school systems have banned certain items from entering school grounds, such as weapons but also ban some food items such as sodas, candy, and gum.
It isn't all that hard to ask a school district to ban peanuts in the school. Getting it passed though might be hard but if it is in the best interests of the children in the school, then most districts would be willing to do so.
It isn't all that hard to ask a school district to ban peanuts in the school. Getting it passed though might be hard but if it is in the best interests of the children in the school, then most districts would be willing to do so.
In this case it would be in the best interest of ONE child, surely you don't suggest we make rules for the exception? That would be almost the silliest idea i've heard here (apart from ones said in jest)
GotTrance: Personally, I would not stop sending my child to school with P&J sandwichs. I would inform the school to make sure the allergic child and the staff is aware of that.
It is the parents responsibility to educate their allergic child of the dangers he faces. The parents need to understand that their childs allergy is something that they need to address and make changes in their life. Not expect everyone else to change to suit their needs.
It is the parents responsibility to educate their allergic child of the dangers he faces. The parents need to understand that their childs allergy is something that they need to address and make changes in their life. Not expect everyone else to change to suit their needs.
Well i think this says it all..
It really all comes down to thinking about oneself at the end of the day..
You look after yours, ill look after mine...and god forbid that anyone should have to make a small allowance to help another family from worry.
Rightio
Conorco: In this case it would be in the best interest of ONE child, surely you don't suggest we make rules for the exception? That would be almost the silliest idea i've heard here (apart from ones said in jest)
I can see what you are saying and if it is a silly idea, so be it, but how does one know that it is not just one child? I based what I said on seeing how others parents decided to ask school districts to ban items such as sodas, energy drinks and junk food in the schools.
It might have started with one parent(s) concerns about their child but other parents had the same concerns and brought it to the attention of the school district.
In the case of one child only, it is not right to do so but the parent(s) can make the school aware of the child's allergy and keep and educate their child and also keep an EPIpen in the nurses' office.
GotTrance: Although peanut allergies can be severe and cause death is it really fair to force everyone else to change their way of life for the peanut allergic person?
I have a daughter with SEVERE allergies, which triggers her to go into an instant, intense asthma attack at the drop of a hat.
She's been this way since she was a baby and she's almost died because of it...we have inhalers, steroids, antihistamines, epi-pen and the works to keep her breathing right--it's a daily thing, which I'm very diligent about.
I don't know that I can answer this objectively because of my kid, but I'd beg to ask you if you'd be willing to see ANY child die in your arms because of having a reaction to peanut butter, peanut products because their airway closes up and they cannot breath.
Are you really willing to put any child at risk simply because you may not agree w/ a peanut ban????
This will be my last reply to this one.
Like it or not, some societies is tolerant towards those with a disadvantage. Its called having compassion and showing decency towards someone who is not like everyone else. That is a lesson that seems to be totally lost these days.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT CHILD WITH THE ALLERGY FEELS KNOWING HE/SHE IS THE REASON WHY THE OTHER CHILDREN CANNOT BRING PEANUTS TO THEIR SCHOOL.
DO YOU REALIZE JUST HOW MUCH RAZZING AND BULLYING THAT CHILD WILL TAKE BECAUSE HE HAPPENED TO HAVE AN ALLERGY?
ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMN LAZY AND PIG HEADED THAT YOU THINK YOUR CHILD SHOULD HAVE HIS PEANUTS EVEN IF IT MEANS MAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD SICK?
I am not replying to this anymore.
Like it or not, some societies is tolerant towards those with a disadvantage. Its called having compassion and showing decency towards someone who is not like everyone else. That is a lesson that seems to be totally lost these days.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT CHILD WITH THE ALLERGY FEELS KNOWING HE/SHE IS THE REASON WHY THE OTHER CHILDREN CANNOT BRING PEANUTS TO THEIR SCHOOL.
DO YOU REALIZE JUST HOW MUCH RAZZING AND BULLYING THAT CHILD WILL TAKE BECAUSE HE HAPPENED TO HAVE AN ALLERGY?
ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMN LAZY AND PIG HEADED THAT YOU THINK YOUR CHILD SHOULD HAVE HIS PEANUTS EVEN IF IT MEANS MAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD SICK?
I am not replying to this anymore.
Amity: Well i think this says it all..
It really all comes down to thinking about oneself at the end of the day..
You look after yours, ill look after mine...and god forbid that anyone should have to make a small allowance to help another family from worry.
Rightio
It really all comes down to thinking about oneself at the end of the day..
You look after yours, ill look after mine...and god forbid that anyone should have to make a small allowance to help another family from worry.
Rightio
You are right, it does say it all.
People need to take responsibility. Asking everyone else to change for that one child is not the right thing to do. If the child can die from just a crumb of a peanut it is in their best interest to homeschool the kid or even do a video uplink to the school. We have the technology. Is that really too much to ask of the parents of the sick child?
lilmamma71: I have a daughter with SEVERE allergies, which triggers her to go into an instant, intense asthma attack at the drop of a hat.
She's been this way since she was a baby and she's almost died because of it...we have inhalers, steroids, antihistamines, epi-pen and the works to keep her breathing right--it's a daily thing, which I'm very diligent about.
I don't know that I can answer this objectively because of my kid, but I'd beg to ask you if you'd be willing to see ANY child die in your arms because of having a reaction to peanut butter, peanut products because their airway closes up and they cannot breath.
Are you really willing to put any child at risk simply because you may not agree w/ a peanut ban????
She's been this way since she was a baby and she's almost died because of it...we have inhalers, steroids, antihistamines, epi-pen and the works to keep her breathing right--it's a daily thing, which I'm very diligent about.
I don't know that I can answer this objectively because of my kid, but I'd beg to ask you if you'd be willing to see ANY child die in your arms because of having a reaction to peanut butter, peanut products because their airway closes up and they cannot breath.
Are you really willing to put any child at risk simply because you may not agree w/ a peanut ban????
Hun, im sorry.Im glad you have posted though, you have seen what can happen..
GotTrance: You are right, it does say it all.
People need to take responsibility. Asking everyone else to change for that one child is not the right thing to do. If the child can die from just a crumb of a peanut it is in their best interest to homeschool the kid or even do a video uplink to the school. We have the technology. Is that really too much to ask of the parents of the sick child?
People need to take responsibility. Asking everyone else to change for that one child is not the right thing to do. If the child can die from just a crumb of a peanut it is in their best interest to homeschool the kid or even do a video uplink to the school. We have the technology. Is that really too much to ask of the parents of the sick child?
Yes...i can see exactly how you think and many others here.
It doesnt fill me with much faith in the human race at all.
GotTrance: Personally, I would not stop sending my child to school with P&J sandwichs. I would inform the school to make sure the allergic child and the staff is aware of that.
It is the parents responsibility to educate their allergic child of the dangers he faces. The parents need to understand that their childs allergy is something that they need to address and make changes in their life. Not expect everyone else to change to suit their needs.
It is the parents responsibility to educate their allergic child of the dangers he faces. The parents need to understand that their childs allergy is something that they need to address and make changes in their life. Not expect everyone else to change to suit their needs.
WOW....how lovely, can't believe your insensitive response..hopefully you never have a child struggling to catch a breath in your arms! What would you say tough luck kid...you got hold of something w/ HIDDEN nuts and you're screwed?
I do address my daughter's asthma, she knows what she can and can't eat, but that's not to say there won't be a birthday party or some other occasion to where someone puts grinded up nuts into a pastry/cupcake/fudge/treat and she won't know about it and unknowingly eat it..so that's her fault right???
You remind me of her father who said "her asthma treatment is up to her!" really, she's 7, you're the adult, so BE ONE! GROW UP!
I make no apologies for my passionate views on this topic because my kid almost died at 8 weeks old from GERD, and asthma...and since then I've become an advocate for childhood asthma and believe me, the CHILDREN are well educated, the PARENTS are well educated, it's the OTHER adults that we have to watch, pretty sad!
StillOfTheNight:
ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMN LAZY AND PIG HEADED THAT YOU THINK YOUR CHILD SHOULD HAVE HIS PEANUTS EVEN IF IT MEANS MAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD SICK?
ARE YOU THAT GOD DAMN LAZY AND PIG HEADED THAT YOU THINK YOUR CHILD SHOULD HAVE HIS PEANUTS EVEN IF IT MEANS MAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD SICK?
So I am pig headed and goddamn lazy because I think my child should be able to continue eating food he likes and is good for him?
Amity: Yes...i can see exactly how you think and many others here.
It doesnt fill me with much faith in the human race at all.
It doesnt fill me with much faith in the human race at all.
Hun, the human race is nothing but a cut throat death game where most people would set you back 10 steps to jump ahead 1/2 a step themselves. They don't care if someone else's child has a problem, as long is it do not "inconvenience" them and they don't have to lift a finger to take a little responsibility.
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