FreedomLover Forum Posts (867)

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So do you think we can have a conversation without the Arabs being bad or Americans, it's the men who are bad, right?

Ooops, I just got myself into trouble again, huh? and on a dating site no less.


Damn men, why are you so controlling.

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Thanks, bye bye!

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I must get a keyboard and stop using my laptop.

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Well, the way some people talk you would the Arab world was paradise and the West was the great Satan, but we must be politically correct and not talk about the difficult issues of the day.

And for the record, I for ALL WOMAN'S RIGHTS not just in the United States! I have worked in women's shelters here, so I am trying to make a difference in my own country.

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That may have been that way were you are at, but that doesn't mean it is great in all the Arab nations. I read and seen too many other things that seem contrary, and not just by the Ameican media. It was from the native Arabic people.

Example: ~sunshine/book-sum/princess.html

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And before you suggest that I should travel to the Middle East so that I can learn about their culture, realize that they don't want Americans over there. I don't go were I'm not welcome. I can't help what my country does.

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Yes, but some cultures are more male dominated than others.

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I don't think anybody said that all Muslim countries are this way. Lets try not to mix the religion with the country. Although many customs do come from religion its not always the case. The questions that I raised was from articles I read and documentaries I've seen about the Arab countries. It is well know that they wear the burkas, and in particular, I recently read a book about a Saudi princess who fled from her country and she talked about the abuses she endured. Many of the abuses were cultural based.

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"I have no problem with nudity, in private or
in public. If I had a partner I would hope that
they feel the same.
Certainly couldn't imagine being with someone
who felt uneasy undressing in front of me."

Since you want to take such a moral highground, perhaps you should follow the Arab way. This thread was not meant to bash the Arab culture. As I've said in a previous comment, I am concerned about the fair treatment of woman, not only in my country but in others. It is so typical of men to think it is all about them. If you read the questions I posted, you would have realized this.

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Can you tell us what is was like a a woman to live over there?. How different was it from your home country?. What was the positive and negative side of it?

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Do you think this is the case in most of the Middle East, or just in Turkey?

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That is kind of a Polly Anna attitude. If we just stick our heads in the sand and think positive thoughts all the bad things go away. Sometimes we need to confront evil and bring it out into the light.

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^ ignorance at it's worst.Don't know why the hostility, there is noone degrading the Muslim/Islam way of life here. This is simply a discussion regarding culture.

Communication on an open forum can be really difficult. There is so much room for misunderstanding. Also, people can't see your face and tell when you are kidding. Perhaps I should not have joked around so much on such a serious topic. It seems when we talk about religion, politics, of cultures, it always ends in a heated debate. Then people tell you to go read books. I thought the open forms were for discussions. I read all the time, and I have an extensive library. I guess they would rather have small talk, such as the weather, or what people are doing for the day. I guess they are safer topics.

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Thank you!

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Yeah, that will teach them.

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Thanks for your reply. It has helped to get a response from someone who has some knowledge about the culture.

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I'm not looking at it from a county perspective, but as a woman. I read and here stories about women being abused in their countries and I am concerned. Sure we have the same thing in our country too, but at least we have laws in place that help the women. There are places that women can turn to if they are abused. I was trying to find out from a first person perspective if the women over their feel they are being abused, but as usual, men seem to think that everything is about them.

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Hi, your back. Ok, I'll stop teasing. Some people on here are way too serious. I know there are a lot of good Arab people and good Muslims, and I do know the difference. I know there are plenty of parts in the Arab world that are quite modern and forward thinking. What I wanted to know was; Do Arab women really want to wear the burkas? I read stories where the women are forced to wear the burka, while others really want to wear them. Is it required in your part of the country?

I agree, there is a lot of corruption in the United States, Europe and other parts of the world, but there are a lot of good hard working people, which I'm sure is the same in your country. I agree that the United States should clean up their own backyard before trying to clean up others. As a women, I am concerned with women issues, especially if women in other countries are being abused. This is something some of the men on here from my own country or other parts of the world may not understand. I not bringing up these subjects as an American, but as a woman. I'm not trying to bash your country, but bring up issues that affect women.

RE: do you have full trust in your partner?

Time to give my eyes a rest.

RE: do you have full trust in your partner?

Partner, what partner? How you found him? I've been looking for him.

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Good point, I once had a friend who asked me why people are so judgemental? I told her that I thought it was human nature. Even from a young age we tend to be critical.

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Why do the men in the Arab cultures feel the need to "control their women?" Do the men feel like they can't control themselves?

[When one half of the couple is unhappy, how can whole ever be happy? I read many books, and heard news clips, and articles about the abuses of the women over there. Sure there is crime in the United Stated, but it is not sanctioned by the court system].

Are the women wanting to wear the burka, or this the men's idea because they feel they can't satisfy their women?

[Never received an answer from any Arab women to know the answer to this]

It seems like these cultures of so concerned with the woman's modesty and not the men, how come?

[These cultures say they respect and love women, but yet they don't treat they as equal, how can that be love?]

I'm not sure if I'm only seeing a minority, or if this is the general rule.

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I don't believe we will ever achieve that on earth, not collectively.

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It would be funny if we knew each other.

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Hey, I'm from Idaho.

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You are probably right, but if you don't look at the dark side, will you ever see the light? Will we learn from our past.

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It's the heart of man that can be too ugly. When you see what people do to each other, it can be so depressing. The world is filled with such beauty and love and such ugliness and hate. I always try to find the good, but sometimes the ugliness can be overwhelming. I would not blame God if he turned his back on mankind. Like I said, there are times I want to, if I could afford to.

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Heard about a California lad of 17 years that was kidnapped and brutally tortured for over a year.

Good point. The inhumanity of man. What kind of world was I born into. I guess that is why I joke and laugh. I'm afraid of falling into that darkness and never returning. I do try to look for the good in people but sometimes there is so much sadness that it almost becomes too much. There have been many times I'e wanted to turn by back on society and become a hermit. People can be too ugly.

RE: Most Sensual/Seductive Songs

Baby Come Back



"Baby Come Back" is a song written by Eddy Grant, and originally performed and recorded by him and the rest of his band The Equals, a multi-racial group from North London, England.

One of my favorites