Ambrose2007 Forum Posts (8,881)

RE: If $10,000,000.00 was mistakenly put into your account

Clever, but I believe the analogy fails. In your case, you didn't do anything to cause the problem - the money was taken from you without your consent (I don't see that it's relevant if it was done by mistake or intentionally). It was your money, not theirs.

In the case of a bank giving you money by mistake, it is *their* money to give you. One can hardly accuse you of theft when someone or a bank gives you money, absent fraud or contractual conditions.

In other words, there isn't an analogy between someone taking your money by mistake and their giving you their money by mistake. I think you're going to need a different line of argument to demonstrate that someone mistakenly giving you money creates a legal (that is law of force, based on a rights-violation) obligation to return it.

RE: If $10,000,000.00 was mistakenly put into your account

It's an interesting question whether a law exists that would compel one to return money mistakenly transferred into one's account - though I would suspect it does.

More interesting is the question of whether someone can RIGHTFULLY compel you to return money to them that was given to you by mistake (absent fraud, etc.). I don't know of a slam-dunk argument for why that ought to be the case.

RE: Love is selfish

I think he has pretty good uncommon sense, too.

RE: If $10,000,000.00 was mistakenly put into your account

Well, I don't think it's that obvious that if an institution/bank mistakenly transfers money into your account that you are "stealing" from them (this situation is somewhat different, since the loanee doubtless had a contractual agreement for the $10,000).

The example of returning the money is more about ethical considerations than legal ones; that is, no law exists (that I know of) that says one must return to the cash register with excess change or make an effort to return found money - nor do I believe such laws ought to exist.

RE: If $10,000,000.00 was mistakenly put into your account

First, there's the interesting question about whether the person who is mistakenly given a sum of money actually owes the money back. I think that's highly debatable. I see no a priori reason that the person or institution making that mistake isn't responsible for it.

RE: which military is the strongest in world now???

RE: which military is the strongest in world now???

Winning a war, by the way, does not consist of absolutely quelching ANY resistance. It means the official capitulation or destruction of a government, essentially.

By the criterion that winning war means absolute submission, Germany didn't defeat France in WWII, since there was an ongoing resistance movement there.

RE: which military is the strongest in world now???

THe U.S. has no problem winning a war. It defeated Iran and Afghanistan easily - militarily. It could've done so in Vietnam as well.

The problems start when it attempts to win the peace. By the way, that applies to ANY invading military force, not just the U.S.

RE: which military is the strongest in world now???

Sutherland has a line in that movie which at the time absolutely cracked me up. I can't remember it exactly, but he was with a nun, I believe, and he was pretending something...and in reply to her question he had an incredible answer. Damned if I can remember it. I'm pretty I'd still love that movie now. Clint and dopehead Sutherland (the "anti-Jack")...what's not to love?

RE: alone in sioux falls

Man, are you sure you want to live in South Dakota? I don't know anyone here who doesn't own a half-dozen weapons (of course, they're not in the big city). I had no idea they were all so weak and cowardly!

RE: Love is selfish

True, but you're always complaining about how the Euros don't get how great America is, so...

RE: Love is selfish

I asked when Jesus spoke of it, not when Paul did, T.

RE: Love is selfish

Talk about a joke that backfired...sorry, Sommer.

RE: Love is selfish

When did Jesus speak of unconditional love?

RE: Love is selfish

people post too fast nevermind, love ya[/quote

Thanks, A!

RE: Love is selfish

Dear lord...that's a whole lotta "good" you gotta do, LL!

RE: Love is selfish

Mother of God! Sorry, couldn't resist.

I call that "inconsiderate." Usually I ask everyone around me, "Can I help you?" And when they turn to motion toward their luggage, I simply slip ahead in line. Air flights tend to bring out the selfish monster in me.

RE: Love is selfish

Thanks, A! It's about time I got a well-deserved compliment from you!

RE: Love is selfish

"Of course"? Really? Why? What makes altruistic values a priori superior?

RE: Love is selfish

Only if you have an untoward affection for contradictions!

RE: Love is selfish

I think it would require considerable legerdemain to escape that world, T.

RE: alone in sioux falls

Semi-non-monogamous?! That's quite a term, even when misspelled. And she's "bi," to boot. And part-alien, too, perhaps?

South Dakota. This place freaks me out. I probably should buy another gun.

RE: Love is selfish

You're very welcome?

"I give you this cake." "No, you take it!" "No, I insist that you have it!" "No, I want you to have it."

Moral: It is impossible to give unless someone accepts the gift. Logical implications, T?

RE: Love is selfish

There is nothing about "self-interest" or "selfishness" (depending on how one defines it...I'm assuming an intelligent definition) which precludes caring about/feeling compassion/valuing others. I'd go further and say true valuing of others requires self-love (as one member here is constantly harping on!).

RE: Love is selfish

What does this "team" consist of, Tony?

RE: Sommer and Captain starring in "Love is Selfish"

NEIN!!

RE: Love is selfish

Of course, my precious feline, Purrscilla, is a selfless saint!

RE: Love is selfish

Well, I doubt very much that any emotion is "unconditional" - that is, would exist regardless of conditions (we've had this discussion a few times before, and eventually everyone seemed to concede that "unconditional" had to be strongly qualified to make sense) - but in any case, I doubt very much if a dog or cat or anyone would love someone without receiving some positive things from that someone. Those receipt of those "positive things" makes the dog a selfish mutt as far as I can see.

RE: Love is selfish

Well, I am a follower of Dionysus (when he's accepting my offerings of lite beer, that is ).

RE: Love is selfish

A needs to learn the value of attribution. I *think* I know when she's replying to me, but one can never be quite sure sans the attributive quote.