I am an elitist snob by virtue of having my ideas and my perfect-self constantly demoted by rabbles of hive-minded knaves and dullards whom I have tried to converse with my whole life. I then rain brimstone and fire down on them from on high as a last resort!
People come into threads and the first thing they do is defend those under scruitiny by me, who are usually those of a lesser intellect and in the wrong or expounding/defending an illogical fallacy.
I am currently being ‘ganged’ on the God-thread by a rabble refuting that evolution (the change in inherited traits of a population from one generation to the next) is a FACT . . .
When it can, has been and IS scientifically observed and observable. Someone is defending their wounded pride. Now they are using all kinds of roundabout ways to get around this refutation, such as saying there are all different kinds of evolution . . .
Doesn’t that mean evolution is a fact, whether one ‘kind’ or the other is not considered to be? Nevertheless there is enough evidence and proof.
O God!
What am I supposed to do but rain down brimstone and fire, or have the truth suppressed by their rabble gang? Who throw praises at each other in order to lend credence to their empty-headed refutations which are REFUTING FACT IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY.
I do not go down to their level or even speak to them on their own, they come up to mine and listen to me on mine or go higher than it and I will look up and listen to them.
I don’t care about accord; I want the dispassionate truth (which is always going to cause huge DIScord) to come to light or at any rate to be considered and tackled logically.
But I become snobbish to the extent that I feel I am throwing gold to intellectual beggars and then it is like Shakespeare said ‘A beggar mounted runs a horse to death’.
I am a diagnosed narcissist and have reaped the repercussions all my life.
By Evolution I mean transmutation; the definition of evolution is: a change in the inherited traits of a population from one generation to the next. The traits themselves are the expression of genes that are copied and passed on to and through offspring. Mutations in these genes can produce new or altered traits, resulting in heritable differences between organisms.
EXACTLT AS I HAVE EXPLAINED. SCIENTIFIC FACT. These changes can be observed, therefore evolution as described above is a fact. Transmutation occurs.
I am becoming snobbish here because the truth is being refuted.
It is a fact, and I don’t care how many of you club together on here to refute it, I will defend it. Evolutionary biology is a gigantic study under which many considerations come that I cannot go into here (variation, natural selection, recombination, genetic drift, gene flow etc). But that is the basic defintion and there is enough evidence to support it. Period.
And someone always comes along and is more impressed by that which suits the level of their intellect (or lack thereof).
You see, little Angel - of what have I spoken 'ill' to this woman?
She can't be bothered or give 2 hoots about what I have said/am saying.
Very intelligent of her.
And so, that she says she cannot be bothered to despise, why then does she TAKE THE TIME to despise me like the very people of which I am speaking? And i have had this all my life.
People trying to tell me my own worth.
Because I am a person who thinks highly of myself, because of people like this who have all my life thought lowly of me-
Because I am so much more intelligent and learned than them, basically. Namely, because I have a Masters Degree in Philosophy at age 24 and am now working towards a PHD. And yeah, I'm cocky.
Dr Arthur Schopenhauer got his at 26 and is considered one of the greatest philosophers in the philosphical cannon.
Don't ever let other people EVER tell you your worth. Generally, as here can be seen, of what do they know of your worth?
To this women I am worthless because I have an opinion counter to the human trend: which is to think lowly of yourself and let other people tell you your worth - or in this instance worthlessness apparently.
Let her say what she may. She merely reinforces my argument and I am about as bothered by what little she has to say as if she has said nothing. Because that is what she has said.
But she gives a nice answer to the question : 'why do people judge'?
Points taken - but unbelievable digression from the original point by my man Denete here... with his unhesitant fearlessness in refuting that Evolution is a fact.
I do laugh at that refutation – no matter who made it. The evidence is THERE.
Evolution does not mean becoming better as it is commonly mistaken to mean (there is variation, adaptation, decent etc) - but I can’t educate all to this, I presumed something so simple was understood.
Apologies for my manner. I’m trying and will improve.
Really, it's hard to explain evolution to someone in a few posts - I assume they know what I mean or at least what ‘evolution’ means.
Yeah but I'm just a kid...what does that make you guys then? When you’re older you can refute scientific fact based on pure evidence and what even experiment reveals and reinforces?
Evolution is a fact...especially in man (evidently)
You don't have any academic understanding of the subject, you're wasting my time.
You can't even pay attention to what is being said (only the glasses are my own theory, the others are Darwin’s observations from the 'Origin of Species'). I'm very unimpressed. Go and do some research before you refute what is scientific fact.
You made a bold, dumb refutation of evolution based on your lack of knowledge of it and what I meant by the fact that it is FACT.
About Denete's refutations, I am afraid the man just hasn't studied and is relying on round-about refutations and I can see that.
The weightlessness of space has quite an interesting effect on the body indeed . . .
Good night everyone.
You refuted that ‘evolution is a fact’. To whit, that biological organisms evolve in their environment. Tell me, how do things adapt without evolving?
Hah! I laugh!
What you are presumptuously calling adaptation (or what you see or seem to see as adaptation) is actually known as 'variation'. These variations are clearly noted between the wild and domesticated forms owing to the drastically different environments.
I don’t know what you are actually refuting…but I am unimpressed with your mind.
I'm afraid you loose, and I snooze. Good night...I mean - good day!
(no hard feelings I hope, Charlos will come along and kick all our asses soon on this one!!!)
Me and you are on a different mental page - you're lumping everything into the same category as if Evolution is one explanation of everything which I am not saying at all. I merely said evolution is a fact.
Evolution is evolution.
If you don't think evolution (positive transmutation) exists and is a fact, not only do I laugh conceitedly at that, but I will laugh the louder when Charlos, who has a Master's Degree from Harvard University and consequently a somewhat very scientific mind, gets here.
I don't know exactly what you are trying to refute (or is it your . . . fear?).
And, further more, may I point out the logical stupidity of saying that there have been tribes that have remained unchanged for centuries and even millennia in complete isolation. Of course they haven't changed - the environment must necessitate a radical change in order for one to be even noticed - that is why the most noticeable variations are in domesticated animals compared with them in the wild . . . and where The Origin of Species (Darwin) begins its theory of evolution. By showing clear examples of 'variation.' and possible causes.
Evolution is a fact, the ‘theory of evolution’ is debatable.
I laugh, my man! I'm talking to a wall that's allowing a little bit through and then denying what little can indeed GET through..
One must tread cautiously when one becomes fearless – especially with me. The truth is, it is not that fools rush in where angels fear to tread, but that angels fear to tread – where fools rush in.
Nevertheless I have rushed in where many an angel has feared to tread and revealed myself as a blithering fool. But it is the privilege of a good intellect to make many mistakes with impunity – on the way to correcting them, of course.
I know that after several generations taken from the wild, a duck's bones - relative to its skeletal structure - will become heavier in the legs and lighter in the wings. Clearly attributable to the fact that it walks (waddles) more and flies less. It will then give birth to offspring with the same/similar skeletal structure and so will they.
This shows that evolution is clearly a FACT and also does not in anyway rule out the existence of 'God' - or at any rate needn’t. Therefore I refute Denete’s assertion…
This is just one such example. Admittedly I should have just given this example, so your points are taken.
Evolution: adapting to one’s environment! (that’s adaptation) C’mon my man! Evolution is the transmutation of the inherited traits in a genus from one generation to the next - producing in time what could be called another GENUS.
Evolution theory – how we got here? No, no, no, no , no. Evolution theory is how life evolved from the simplest of forms to the most complex and that is grossly over-simplifying it (it takes into account all the findings of Evolution into one theory in the direction of ‘Origin’.
I do not see how Evolution does away with God, Evolution Theory however TRIES to – it tries to remove his ‘hand’ from specific creation/design in so far as do away with 'Him'
Evolution is a FACT and under normal circumstances I would either have to call you out as a fool here or as a man who doesn't understand ‘evolution’ – to whit, positive transmutation.
Do not take the term ‘evolution’ to mean that a fish flopped out of the water, grew arms and turned into everything else . . .
That's 'Evolution Theory' my man!
I mean that the process of transmutation and evolution is a FACT. Things adapt/evolve to survive - and even NOT to.
FACT.
I do not mean the bogus incomplete layman’s theory of 'Evolution' that he got from watching fat-boy Slim’s music video and hearing Charles Darwin’s name in conjunction with some vague notion of a big bang, but that things evolve and have evolved from lower/lesser/different forms to modified forms - AND de-evolved. And still do.
FACT.
I do not mean that 'Evolution Theory' is a FACT.
Evolution (namely the proccess), however, as I said, is a fact.
Evolution and 'Evolution Theory' are not one and the same. I did not say 'Evolution THEORY is a fact'.
How presumptuous that would be!!!
Now where do you want me to provide proofs that things evolve and the proposed influences that cause/can cause them to (as stupid as it will be to do so)?
Me and you seem to have a problem with understanding each others’ terminology.
And so, do not jump too quickly to conclusions without a hint of fearlessness – you might hurt something.
'Evolution is in no way a fact!'
Under normal circumstances, I would have many a laugh at your expense with this one!
I will do my best my man! Point out to me where I am stepping out of line and I will explain/apologize . . .
I have been dealing with less reasonable people in the past and have become one myself in order to deal with their ridiculous refutations.
I cannot promise you that my views will not oppose yours however, but I welcome your argument/refutation of those views – and will rebuke them with my own!
Damn it man! Do you know how much I’m trying to tare myself away from this! Take away the 'blind' then . . .
The danger in having faith in what is not yet beheld, not yet fully understood, not yet fully explained . . .
For that is having faith in precisely all those ‘nots’.
UNLESS you mean: ‘faith’ that what is not yet beheld will be beheld, that what is not yet fully understood will be fully understood, that what is not yet fully explained WILL be fully explained?
And, again, your faith is misguided – for NO one may be convinced as such and have faith in such a conviction.
Who's to say that our minds can ever comprehend all this and do away with those 'three nots’
Nevertheless this is the endeavor. It begins with understanding what a Religion IS, and then doing away with what it is NOT.
No it’s like almost 5 in the morning!!! I'm trying to pull myself away. I longed for people like you three on this thread and here you are. If you stick around it could get interesting - I respect you and I will try my best to be 'nice'.
As quickly as I can, faith in God is not under scrutiny here per se - faith in religion (particularly separatist fanaticism) is under scrutiny here.
Your final sentence is a most excellent definition of faith...can you not see the danger, then, of having blind faith in what is not yet beheld, not yet fully understood, not yet fully explained . . . if indeed at all . . .
Here arises something called 'systems of metaphysics' [a proposed systematic explanation where there is in fact a NON-explanation] which is what essentially each and every religion is. The danger lies where they are taken as the ‘literal truth’ by their followers. And I will go into this when I have the chance.
Nevertheless you will remain bothered. Unfortunately I do not have the time to answer these intriguing posts now.
Your ‘concept’ of compassion is infantile – is, then, 'backwards-world'. Rest assured. If you are offended, try another thread. If you can put up with the pressure, remain on this one. I will not change.
Law and enforcement/counter-motives set to destructive human motives/law enforcement not as retaliation or to incite retaliation but in order to DETER.
Once again, I am ahead of you and this you will learn. Welcome to the God-thread.
First of all, 'backwards-world' man/woman does not mean from a backwards part of the world (I find even the forward parts backward), it is someone who thinks in a backward way and makes the world go backwards in so far as they hang on to outdated dogma and defend those who do. It is an academic term I should not have been so presumptuous as to assume anyone other than me would know.
I respect you, but people appear on this thread who haven't been on here (I have been here since the original thread) and the first thing they do is attack me and defend those who are doing so.
Someone even tried to convert me into a Christian and said they will leave the thread unless I did so. No chance.
YOU may think all the world needs is compassion and humility, I believe it needs law and enforcement of those laws. Period.
I am through with your 'compassion' and 'humility' and what little it can actually accomplish in this world of moral decadence and decline.
Law and enforcement. All religion has really been used for to its credit is precisely THIS. And even Gandhi himself said it.
Out-spoken anti-Christian targeted for destruction the moment I came on this thread and wrote one word. To be burned at the stake like Bruno and Vanini along with their works and words! And another act to justify the very words they burned from NOT being burned. Keep your angel near your head, and I’ll keep the devil near mine. That oldest friend of knowledge...
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