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of course!!

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You make my wagga, wagga.

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Umm yes so burning you posted it twice

I'll accept both public and private declarations

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thats crazy... but very fitting for this crowd

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Tina!! one of my fav parts of waking up again ..

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YES!! I would like to know every female's measurements here, as I need some mathematical practice in forming my ideal woman...

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mines MT ...

RE: Happy Birthday Dori :)

RE: Work in pencil/graphite

yes I do, though I am seldom hasty about it. I just like being sure I am actually done with the work because fixative is final ..

RE: Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..

that is so sad, to be ruled by fear of anyone or anything. Maybe these gods should just put rabid pit bulls in your yard and keep you under house arrest.

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fortuneatly yes!!

RE: Work in pencil/graphite

I use pencil just for sketching out ideas. I have no problem with people using to create a final work and I have seen some fabulous stuff. Its kind of like the black and white film of photography, a simple nostalgic innocence.

I do however prefer chalk pastels (and occasionaly clay)and only because they are completely hands on. I like being able move the colours around with my fingers, smudging and blending, forming. We can do a little of that with pencil but but not as freely and not with the same results. Most mediums don't have the same tactile quality and I guess thats what I like about pastels and clay.

I understand your sketch question and that it's viewed as preliminary and just a sketch. Critics are a dime a dozen, no matter what medium you use.

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I woked up!

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I may be late, as i dont know where you live

RE: Back pain advice "I need some"

youre so purdy with your out ..

RE: just tell someone

but GOOD trouble

RE: just tell someone

ya

hi ship ... bye ship

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RE: Back pain advice "I need some"

I can attest to that as well.

I'd prefer curative results to any chems for sure. Not that I'm against taking what you need to get by, but dealing with a problem at the source is imperative asap.

Why they get called 'alternative' is beyond me. They should be 'primary' care methods, but I doubt doctors would have us know that..

RE: C.S. Matchmakers...come and take a spin...

I'm putting you all together ... with straight jackets .... and a slurpy

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daddio

ya hippie

RE: Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..

bambino a cuore!

RE: Back pain advice "I need some"

are you a fan of chiropractors?

I've had bad experience with that stuff as did my bro in law. Its not really curative. Consistent maintenance visits to an accomplished chiropractor can be more helpful even in cases of arthritis. IMHO.

the cartilage is inflamed for a reason, reducing the inflamation only masks the cause, and the body is actually charged with producing that inflamation and it's attendant pain as a warning to do something about it, the displacement, that is the real cause.

RE: Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..

Just one more thing I forgot to mention, though I kind of ended on that note.

Mary or Jesus, or pagan rituals and the bible are all instruments of connection spritually. Some of the pagan rituals would blow your mind, they do mine anyway and I find them intriguing, but what I have come away with having attended catholic schools and other churches from associating with women of diff religions, is that the ceremomy is a way of tuning in.

The rituals are inconsequnetial compared to making the connection, but for some this is how they prepare themselves to tune in. To point their intent at whatever their belief is. Makes sense when you think about it. Some religions chant to do so, some meditate, some pray and give praise. These rituals serve as mental and spiritual prep., as does the bible for you.

I don't want to discourage from studying the bible, Most people I know who have, have since come away feeling more empowered, not empowered with gods, but empowered in themselves. Unless a religion gets a hold of them.. Reading any book puts you in a 'space' with its characters, real or imagined, fiction and non-fiction, we feel a reality conncetion while we read.

You've had experiences Orla, and you had them sans Bible, yes!?. This is a very telling fact and one you wouldn't want to ignore.
You also have stated that you beleive we are all connected to god. When you think about it, you realise that this god can speak to you without a Bible, or a Quran, or the Tao, because we are all connected, yes? He/She is a sense... and sense-able.

So who would need this book, if this true?

You've known goodness without it.
You've known love without it.
You've known the difference between right and wrong without it.
You've known you without it, though sometimes we chase our own tails, and need direction, I know.

So, who would have need of pushing this book as the one and only connection, if this is true? Certainly not a man who wants you purely to know god.


happy reading O

RE: Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..

you really are stepping outside your box lately

Ok so I'm with you on the gender issue, though I doubt gender really has anything to do with god save the principle of balance, (male/female) but that's more my beliefs about energy.

Pagan beleif leans toward the goddess. Spirituality was born by women long ago Orla, long before even teh Sumerains began to give us writings about saviors and christ-like figures, comlete with gods.

The Mary issue and this is just my opinion, was a hand out to pagans, whose beliefs tended toward the goddess principles. The goddess is more connected to nature and isn't so much about being female as she is the ""embodiment"" of 'mother nature'

Many christian values have been taken from pagan rituals and most are still evident today. Seasonal changes, xmas, all those are based in pagan spiritualism. Empires ruled by men, had to think of something,.. something that would also unite women in their plan, to disclude them would have created a great deal more ire. That was their first step to include women willingly. Those who didnt abide were of course branded witches and hunted down, many famous inquisitions prove this.

The need to for belief (in unification) was more prevelelant than the need for truth, you see. So you're right there are many misgivings in the RC Church and their dogma, as well as others. I guess my point is that carrying this book as righteous word of god, when you know its authors and editors were indeed the RC Church and the roman empire that imposed it, gives pause for thought. Kind of like beleiveing in George Bush because the US constitution has merit. And it does, the best document ever penned though it lacks things they could not have forseen in todays climate.

Jesus or no Jesus, it has merit, I'm not sure it means beleive in its characters Mary is a character, a vessel as you say. Symbolic methods of creating a feeling in god.

I'm betting you could point your prayer at Mary, even Agnes or Wanda and still accomplish a feeling in god.

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would you care to hear suggestions or do you have something specific in mind

Missouri is right in the middle of the country, surely there's be a rooster within a farms reach?

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:takingthebait:

someone needs a cockledoodledo?

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well dont let me stand in the way of your ummm 'things'

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that would require moving dave