now there's a million, no 20 billion different universes, one for each of us? all using the same earth as home base ..and half of them using an unproveable jesus as their universal source
actually I know you cant prove jesus because there isnt one in 'any' universe. its that simple.
all things are possible, not all things are probable ... like people actually answering the question, instead of heading off on some non-sequitor ... its possible, just not probable here.
touche' but maybe the mechanic's 'being' as well provided he percieves himself as a mechanic .
for me 'being' is life, all life, all energy, that is being and paradoxically, a single entity, but not in a him sort of way, not for me anyway. All life comprises all knowledge.
The purest sense of anything is itself. Adding any qualifiers makes it something else, including 'am' or 'we' by adding are, etc... is this what you're saying?
I'm not sure I'm buying the adam story, but because it goes back as far as Sumar and Mesopetamian lore, though the names are different, I often wonder what the opriginal translation might really be. I understand what youre saying about spired, but this is indeed what happens in birth isn't it. Once it enters our atmosphere, it breathes this life?
Ignore the ego's demands? (I) ... this would create .... love.... it only happens in absence of 'I".
the word always, defines forever, infinity....that IS time my good man.... what you're proposing is that god existed in nothinness or that god is nothingness, and created something out of it and he (gender specific) started some clock on it all as well...... parlor tricks. Either your god is in time or he isn't make up my mind
there is no beginning ... its irrational to beleive even if you say there is a god, you beleive he always was always will be .. no beginnings no endings ..
Even a beleiver cant have god AND a beginning if he beleives what god is?
its irrational , contradicts and defies its own proposed existence
Mike youre still doing the coke can thing it is scientifically, biologically explainable design Mike, just as life is. I know you dont understand it, but you will when you learn more about physics, science, biology... and I'm not talking a masters degree here, just a basic first year understanding.
what you're proposing is the bean under the cup trick ... its anecdotal at best bud all you showed us was a building
I'm sorry but thats just anecdotal, not proof. Science gives you real, sustainable valid proof. It can make a spoon, make a human now, even make single body parts, all things that become real. Because of science we can get to the Dio's moon and are now beond our own planetary system.
with only this god, we are stuck here, worshipping something that is not provebale, in any way, let alone science (so far), unless you accept my own sentiments on the matter and I'm not pushing them. I just offer them as scientifically proveable parallels of what most spiritualist call god.
Its more than anecdotal
A mechanic knows cars inside and out. I could tell you squat about them, but I do know this, the reason he knows all about them, is because he learned the subjects and processes that are particular to that discipline.
To me it is a mind boggling series or cogs and gears and now computer chips and other things all arranged in such a way that it works ...Science is this process, just because we havent learned the necessary sciences involved doesn't mean that cars are some godish freak of nature. Lack of understand is nothing more than that. It doesn't mean you should fill that lack or that gap in your understanding with an unproveable beings or anecdotal stories. He's just a mechanic who knows things you don't.
aahhhhhhhhhh .. I was indeed being honest , you informed me of things i did not know ... is that a bunjee cord by the way ? ... they can be useful as well
because the 'evidence' around you as you put it, is scientifically explainable. and that is more evidence than just pronouncing that there is some super santa for which there is no evidence.
Just because you dont understand the evidence doesn't make it less proof.
you expect 100% proof of science, yet zero proof of god ... mind boggling and irrational
Why do you worry about your sins since some "alledged unproveable being"(again zero proof) apparently already died for them, long before you even sinned ... again mind boggling and irrational.
What people call 'experiences' can be explained through psychological and biological processes, including the Lion story. Some dogs have been known to eat kids, and some that protect, whether they do or not is explainable and controllable. Sometimes theyre hungry, sometimes they sense threats, sometimes they dont. Lions don't always eat and or attack humans and they generally eat at night and sleep by day ... a few hours of not being eaten is easily explainable.
The fact that you ignore a 'more' factual process in cosmology and its child sciences in favour of some zero proveable hocus pocus... will leave you uneducated in science and a victim of the greatest 'fool roundup in our history', which is by the way another subject you are definitely lacking knowledge in.
or a hanging single hammock like I have in my yard ...
if you're going to yell , I suggest making sure the nieghbors aren't home.
wasn't me ..
these options are provided and tested, by profesionals, using 100lb test rope and or 1/4 " link chain, properly installed and anchored.. anyone wanting to try them please do so at your own risk.
I'm in the deep end Mike ... actually its pretty much grade nine physics and science and some extrapolating ... so why would you post a thread about science if you dont have an incling? ....... good luck with Dawkins!
its only mysterious because you allow him to hide behind a curtain, giving him the power to mesmerize you ... You cant prove he exists, you cant prove jesus or mithras or any of the 22 other ssviors existed, yet you toss you will into its hands of mystery? he's a fabricated magician who can do no more for mankind than man can do for himself.
Don't watch my hands or you'll see the rabbit and that will ruin the mystery..
I'll bet you don't even know the reason why the Roman wanted this so called person dead?
RE: God vs. Science
now there's a million, no 20 billion different universes, one for each of us? all using the same earth as home base ..and half of them using an unproveable jesus as their universal sourceactually I know you cant prove jesus because there isnt one in 'any' universe. its that simple.
just looking for an explanation bud.
I've given mine.