I think for a woman with the potential for more children the man's income will be very important, whether she has kids or not. But even if she plans no kids or is beyond that stage in her life, if she has kids and is a person of limited resources marrying a man with a higher income it is entirely reasonable to expect him to contribute to their upbringing. That has always been what men did, and now that women feel more independent I don't think their children should suffer for it. On the other hand, some women will marry a man with little money or little income and can only expect he will take care of himself. She must at least expect he will not pose a burden on the kids in any way.
I think while a man loves you that is the time when you must demand better treatment than you got, and if he really loves you, he will not have a problem meeting your demands. When he can no longer treat you well, then he no longer loves you. Don't wait and make demands for better treatment when he has already fallen out of love for you. While he loves you, demand to be treated like a lady.
Uh, if I was with a woman I didn't love and didn't want to be with the temptation to treat her this way would be very strong. I hope I would never give in to it.
Even the poorest black men in America are much better off than the blacks in Africa. But I don't think the African girls know that. They are writing white men because they think its the American whites they could marry to go to America and be what they think of as rich. If they married even the poorest American black and came to America, they would think themselves lucky and rich.
Well, these threads do drift off topic a lot, and I have always wanted someone to ask me what the delightful Ms. Strawberries has, so I'll jut answer it. I've been working on this for years, by myself, paying for websites and everything, and I can handle the idea work and the programming of mathematical algorithms to process the data, but I am not good at Perl CGI and don't know PHP yet. I'm working on that. So I am not collecting data at the moment. Last time I had some crude Perl forms up to collect data, nobody filled out the damn forms, so the real problem may be more an advertising/publicity problem anyway, which is discouraging, because that tends to cost big bucks. Anyway, thanks for asking, hotstrawberries.
I am constantly getting e-mails from lovely black women in Africa. Today it was from Becky in Ghana. They reach me through other dating services which have a large overseas following, especially MatchDoctor and JumpDates. Becky was on Jumpdates.
You don't live on a monitor. You exchange e-mails until you develop a sense of trust, a good sense of trust, then you get him to give you his phone number. Then you phone him, in the evening when phone charges are low, using a phone plan that is cheap, but you phone him. Phone him and talk on the phone. Do that for a long time, until you can really trust him, and only then consider meeting in person. You see, you build up trust. If you had webcams and could watch each other (fully dressed!) and talk that would be another step before meeting. But don't just live on a monitor.
Oh, hotstrawberries, dear, you know what I am working on, don't you? I want to change the world. Either I write novels about it, as I did for a couple of years, or I try to work on what could be the real project, if anyone would ever join it, with real software, though I can only write a small part of it. This thread is about what men want, I believe to change the world we need to find out what everybody wants, in each other and in jobs and in places to live and everything, and help them find it, almost perfectly, so nobody every goes without simply because they can't find what they want or who they want. That's what I am working on. Big project, small workforce.
try Canada -- far fewer race related problems, the cities are usually cleaner, and the we have medicare, which is a bit like the British National Health except that it works, much less waiting, better care -- in the US the private health care is very expensive
shall I tell Canadian guys about the pretty London girl wanting a husband and willing to emigrate?
if I get you over here with a nice guy, Foxy dear, you'll thank me
People are not wholely rational and do a lot of things they cannot support or substantiate. Christians were commanded not to do a lot of things, among the least of which was a harmless bit of analysis associated with some old Eastern religions. If Christians gave up this harmless pastime but kept on accumulating wealth while there are poor among us, I would be disappointed.
We don't seem to be talking about the chatroom. Briefly, Benz put up a chatroom for us on yahoo, after it had been discussed on several threads about chatrooms. The next day, Benz's profile had been deleted, as had his fine "redneck" thread and all threads about chatrooms and the Yahoo chatroom was gone. I posted a note about this, but strangely, nobody commented about it.
Ladie, ladies, please, I was just thinking back to the days of my youth, when this distinction was sometimes made, really, not by me, but in the media and among women themselves. It was a cliche. There were no middle-of-the-road girls who dated a little, there were only the popular girls who were always going out and the rest, who stayed at home, sadly. So went the cliche. The popular girls and their stay-at-home-sisters. I didn't make it up. Maybe I should be shot for retelling it, but it was with a light heart and a smile on my face.
You're making assumptions about the ordering of the people on the pages, Will. I assume you are right, but they are not explained anywhere.
Anyway, Arabella, our FoxyEyes and Starliteisbrite are amongst the most popular women, of course, along some who posted here in the past and haven't been seen lately, BlondeLady and HotStrawberries.
Foxy being a notable exception, the popular women seem to show just a little bit more flesh on average than their stay-at-home-sisters.
Oops! This is all my fault! Sorry Missie, sorry Isabella, especially sorry Missie. The thing is, Missie, that I read profiles, and when you showed up here, your profile had a very unlikely number in it. I didn't really want to ask, I really didn't, I was afraid of embarrassing you, so I just kept checking it regularly, to see if you fixed it. Well, either you or the system fixed it, just BEFORE I made an idiot of myself here. I should have checked again right before posting my message, but I saw a dialogue between you and Isabella and couldn't resist a quick shot. You see, Isabella, Missie must be 5'4 but for at least a week her profile said she was 4'4 and I was fool enough to believe that. Sorry, ladies.
I always listen to you, Jackie. Always. I just said it was interesting, not that I understand or agree with that expert. On the other hand, what I have observed is this: you get some fresh young thing like Foxy, and she agrees with the expert's list (as Foxy did). Then you get some women here who has been hurt, betrayed, abused, lied to, cheated on, etc. etc., and the ONLY things she wants in a man are honesty and respect. Well, right, of course, I don't blame her, poor thing.
Say Missie, by the way, not to change topics, but if you and Isabella a could just take a moment and examine each other's profiles, please, particularly with respect to the question of height ...
You are the woman, SouthernHeat, and who am I to disagree, but it is interesting to note that honesty and respect are not even on the list of 12 things (see above) compiled by an expert.
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RE: The subject of income
I think for a woman with the potential for more childrenthe man's income will be very important, whether she has
kids or not. But even if she plans no kids or is beyond
that stage in her life, if she has kids and is a person
of limited resources marrying a man with a higher income
it is entirely reasonable to expect him to contribute to
their upbringing. That has always been what men did, and
now that women feel more independent I don't think their
children should suffer for it. On the other hand, some
women will marry a man with little money or little income
and can only expect he will take care of himself. She
must at least expect he will not pose a burden on the
kids in any way.
dpw