How will Free college work in America?

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Blain69

Mansfield, Ohio USA

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Feb 12, 2016
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Utopia

Ocee102 Ocee102

unknown, Michigan USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Cut military spending in half.

That frees up $15,000 per year for every US citizen between 18 and 22 years of age, and we'll still be spending many times what any other country on the planet spends. I'm not advocating less support for troops, I'm advocating a less aggressive position in the world. The reality is we can't afford what we're currently doing and it's a large part of why we're falling behind the rest of the developed world.



If we also stop building professional sports stadiums with tax dollars,

we could problem send them all to med school.laugh


...and we additionally stop over incarcerating our population,

we could probably educate an entire generation of neurosurgeons.laugh


The money's there, it all in the priorities.




The math on the first claim...20 million people 18 to 22 in the US.

Defense budget(not including veterans benefits btw)...$600 billion.

Half of $600 billion is $300 billion.

$300 billion divided by 20 million is...$15,000



At $300 we'd still be spending 2.5 times what the next biggest spender on the planets does.
Ocee102 Ocee102

unknown, Michigan USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Ocee102: At $300 billion we'd still be spending 2.5 times what the next biggest spender on the planets does.
lifeisadream lifeisadream

Mexi Go, Mexico Mexico

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Ocee102: Cut military spending in half.

That frees up $15,000 per year for every US citizen between 18 and 22 years of age, and we'll still be spending many times what any other country on the planet spends. I'm not advocating less support for troops, I'm advocating a less aggressive position in the world. The reality is we can't afford what we're currently doing and it's a large part of why we're falling behind the rest of the developed world.
If we also stop building professional sports stadiums with tax dollars,

we could problem send them all to med school....and we additionally stop over incarcerating our population,

we could probably educate an entire generation of neurosurgeons.The money's there, it all in the priorities.

The math on the first claim...20 million people 18 to 22 in the US.

Defense budget(not including veterans benefits btw)...$600 billion.

Half of $600 billion is $300 billion.

$300 billion divided by 20 million is...$15,000
At $300 we'd still be spending 2.5 times what the next biggest spender on the planets does.

"Cut military spending in half."

or make better alliances laugh

I am not for free anything yet I do know that education is obscenely expensive in USA.

Education must be affordable for anyone whom wishes to get an education.

In fact education must be mandatory giggle everywhere!
mollybaby mollybaby

Cork City, Cork Ireland

Re: How will Free college work in America?
We have free university education here. It was 'freer' before the crash.
Technically, there are still no fees, but there is a registration fee now.
It opens up further education to a wider group, but it is still usually middle class and upwards that go.
But at least nobody has huge student loans afterwards.
purr4mance

Cleveland, Ohio USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Sanders estimates his plan would cost $75 billion a year, which would be paid for by a tax on Wall Street speculation. But experts fear that in the long term, rising college costs could become unsustainable and wind up being shouldered by taxpayers, too. Some research has found that student loan and Pell Grant expansions can lead to more expensive tuition. Hillary Clinton’s college plan addresses this issue, at least in part, by putting more responsibility on colleges to keep costs down and make sure students graduate and can eventually repay their debt, an idea gaining traction in Washington.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-jane-vermont-burlington-college-219114#ixzz3zzu3h98x
Ccincy Ccincy

Colerain,TWP, Ohio USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Obviously there is no such thing as a free education one way or another we all end up paying whether it be our own or someone elses.
SoulToSoul7

Sofiya, Sofiya Bulgaria

Re: How will Free college work in America?
...who knowsdunno maybe it is an utopia but i'd like to believe that things could be changed and someday will be different, everyone deserves a better future...
TheRedSquirrel87 TheRedSquirrel87

Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Blain69: Utopia


I drove over a bridge this morning and it didn't cost me a thing. It's a Socialist Utopia!
TheRedSquirrel87 TheRedSquirrel87

Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Blain69: Utopia


It is a matter of priorities as Ocee points out, but you should hold to that sense of priority in education. I don't know the American economy like I do the British, nevertheless, you should make free education where you have a shortage of skills or a plan for development, less expensive for education of middling value, and full if not increased rates for liberal arts college.
galrads galrads

columbus, Ohio USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
mollybaby: We have free university education here. It was 'freer' before the crash.
Technically, there are still no fees, but there is a registration fee now.
It opens up further education to a wider group, but it is still usually middle class and upwards that go.
But at least nobody has huge student loans afterwards.



Possesing dual citizenship with Italy, I believe higher EDU is available free to me when living there. I don't think it's accredited though.

Curious, are your Travelers allowed to participate in your free EDU programs?
TheRedSquirrel87 TheRedSquirrel87

Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK

Re: How will Free college work in America?
TheRedSquirrel87: It is a matter of priorities as Ocee points out, but you should hold to that sense of priority in education. I don't know the American economy like I do the British, nevertheless, you should make free education where you have a shortage of skills or a plan for development, less expensive for education of middling value, and full if not increased rates for liberal arts college.


Education was one of the things the soviets got right. If there was a need for 10000 geologists then within a few short years 10000 geologists there would be. If Britain did this for 1000 geologists and petroleum engineers the economy would be much better off. We are missing out.

Education is one of those areas where planning can work. And prisons, too. Although they privatise prisons - which are just about the most regimented and even to plan institutions out there - and now we receive a worse service at the same cost. The tendency is to privatise even where privatisation is obviously an inferior choice.
TheRedSquirrel87 TheRedSquirrel87

Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK

Re: How will Free college work in America?
TheRedSquirrel87: Education was one of the things the soviets got right. If there was a need for 10000 geologists then within a few short years 10000 geologists there would be. If Britain did this for 1000 geologists and petroleum engineers the economy would be much better off. We are missing out.

Education is one of those areas where planning can work. And prisons, too. Although they privatise prisons - which are just about the most regimented and even to plan institutions out there - and now we receive a worse service at the same cost. The tendency is to privatise even where privatisation is obviously an inferior choice.


easy*
MADDOG69 MADDOG69

Dublin, Dublin Ireland

Re: How will Free college work in America?
galrads:

Curious, are your Travelers allowed to participate in your free EDU programs?

Sure. There was one or two here that had 3rd level edu.

It still costs money though. The registration fee, relocation, books etc is prohibitive for many though.
galrads galrads

columbus, Ohio USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
MADDOG69: Sure. There was one or two here that had 3rd level edu.

It still costs money though. The registration fee, relocation, books etc is prohibitive for many though.


You'd think as a tax incentive, Apple computer company in Ireland would give students there free fully-functional IPads and then the universities would provide digital versions for books.
MADDOG69 MADDOG69

Dublin, Dublin Ireland

Re: How will Free college work in America?
galrads: You'd think as a tax incentive, Apple computer company in Ireland would give students there free fully-functional IPads and then the universities would provide digital versions for books.

I think Apple make money by selling Ipads, not giving them away.

If I was a student and got a free ipad, I'd sell it immediately. And buy a netbook.


And probably drink the balance. cool
galrads galrads

columbus, Ohio USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
MADDOG69: I think Apple make money by selling Ipads, not giving them away.

If I was a student and got a free ipad, I'd sell it immediately. And buy a netbook.And probably drink the balance.


laugh
Miller2016

San Vicente, Buenos Aires Argentina

Re: How will Free college work in America?
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Da_Moose

Westlock, Alberta Canada

Re: How will Free college work in America?
Free education - until high school, I agree with! But free university? I cannot support this initiative. If you have "brains"...apply for a scholarship....IF you have the academic ability! Do NOT dilute post-secondary education by saying everyone is entitled!
secretagent09 secretagent09

New Jersey, New Jersey USA

Re: How will Free college work in America?
I'm not in favor of a free college education. Having to pay for a college is way to filter out those who would go to college for the wrong reasons. Moose is right in saying that there would be some who think they are entitled.

If so many applied, new colleges would have to be built defeating the purpose of "free".

Work hard in high school to earn the right to attend a college in the United States. Various ways to get a college education ... Apply for a Pell Grant, scholarship or a community college.

When you work for it, you will appreciate it more.
Da_Moose

Westlock, Alberta Canada

Re: How will Free college work in America?
secretagent09: I'm not in favor of a free college education. Having to pay for a college is way to filter out those who would go to college for the wrong reasons. Moose is right in saying that there would be some who think they are entitled.

If so many applied, new colleges would have to be built defeating the purpose of "free".

Work hard in high school to earn the right to attend a college in the United States. Various ways to get a college education ... Apply for a Pell Grant, scholarship or a community college.

When you work for it, you will appreciate it more.


Thank you! Although EVERYONE deserves basic education, post-secondary is to be earned and merited! It should be based on academic prowess...not wealth nor societal emtitlement!

Signed the guy hoping the doctor operating on his heart got better than 50% in anatomy class!
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