A Canadian and Obama. ( Archived) (126)

Apr 8, 2009 9:04 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
RobbieM: Initially it was blamed on WMD's when the weapons inspectors already said they had dismantled their operational capability.

Then their capability mas deliberately misrepresented.The 45 minute claim as any military officer with use of chemical warheads ill be able to tell you is an artillery attack or mortar attack could be possible in 45 minutes.

Now last i saw a mortar, or an artillery piece i havent seen one that could fire from Iraq to Europe.

Downright outright lies, that every militaty intelligence analyst and general would have been able to tell anyone who asked.

Do you expect me to believe nobody mentioned this?

I happen to know quite a lot about biological warfare, and the hardest part of the problem is not building a rocket and just chucking a nosecone full of anthrax in it..oh no.

What you need is a highly complicated dispersal system.....and they were never ever given this technology!!!!!

soon as i heard this on the news i knew they were lying through their teeth, and i hate to say it but you cant tell me that not one single intelligence member of staff, or professional military officer notice this.

Complicity at the very highest levels, and you cannot blame the Intelligence services, as they said "No evidence of capability or links with Al quaeda".


Were the weapons inspectors ever shut out of areas that the Iraqi government not want to inspect? Weren't these same inspectors kicked out of Iraq for nearly a year?

If so, what were they hiding?

zee
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Apr 8, 2009 9:07 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
zee1ander: We are, but every time a US Citizen brings up a point against Obama, all the Canadians and Europeans get offended.

zee



Obama didn't start the warrrrrrrrr....He's trying to end it..Soooooooo why is he the one who needs to be held to account???????


dunno
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Apr 8, 2009 9:09 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
zee1ander: We are, but every time a US Citizen brings up a point against Obama, all the Canadians and Europeans get offended.

zee


Here's my opinion on Obama.He's a politician, and if you put your faith in him then you maybe riding for a fall.

Action speaks louder than words, so let's see if he has real convictions and does what is best for the American people who didn't even vote for him.

That will be the test, but given that he is already making stupid crass errors in judgement re bombing Pakistan with Drones then i fear frankly he maybe either taking duff advice, or be clueless when it comes to foriegn relations.

Time will tell, but the main thing to remember is keep your eyes on him to make he doesn't con you like previous people have.

I won't defend anyone on their politics...i just state the facts as ive already done.

The Iraq war, and that started in Afghanistan were shall we say started for not the reasons stated, and even the implementation of military action has been piss poor.

Lions led by lambs...........
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Apr 8, 2009 9:14 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Obama didn't start the warrrrrrrrr....He's trying to end it..Soooooooo why is he the one who needs to be held to account???????


I could be wrong...but he's president I think? dunno
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Apr 8, 2009 9:14 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
kissmedeeply: you know single dude you really dont want him to respond to this becos he would make you look like a fool..

You dont know anything about him or me or my family

So with due respect pls dont tell us how our life would be
either here in the US or Canada..


Good luck in Canada! Still a Bushney on power over there but he or some other conservatives as him is not going to get ellected next time laugh

A nurse.... ok? then he is going to do all right in Canada! Good journey to all of you!

I will keep telling as I beleive kissmedeeply....... dont take it too personally and be sure when ever I feel the feeling of Fear in any body then I can not stop trying my best against it.

Fear is a devistating feeling and Fear destroyes humans mind!

And sure I would not mind a tall discussing the same matter with your hub oir any body else......Be sure many others have trioed to make me look like a fool and I dont mind that at all-........ fools are those who are afraid of expressing their thoughts and fools are those who try to make others not expressing them selves....... bring him all on head banger comfort
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Apr 8, 2009 9:16 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
zee1ander: You know that is Obamas plan.... He needs to flex his Military muscle and needs to have his war done in less than 20 minutes.

zee



The Netherlands is next. rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 8, 2009 9:21 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I know I will get in trouble for this, but I believe Obama might be the anti christ, and we are in the end times.
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Apr 8, 2009 9:23 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Indyfella: I could be wrong...but he's president I think?



Nooooo kidding...Why aren't the ones who lied and connived and started a war based on false premises being held accountable????



They're responsible for the thousands of lives that have been lost as far as I am concerned....

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Apr 8, 2009 9:23 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Maybe you need to learn a bit of how the weapons inspectors do their job, or the fact that intelligence officers were embedded within the security inspections.

Saddam locked these people out for this reason, and with complete satellite coverage,insider help and years of weapons inspections you can be damn sure as Hans Blix and Scott Ritter said that there was nothing left to find.

Chemical warfare supplied for the war against Iran by the way all has a sell by date.

Anything left buried in the desert would have passed it's sell by date....and although not nice to wash in or drink couldn't kill people.

You might not be aware, but the US Marines obtain plans for every building they need to assault, so they have a plan in place if they need to go.

Western governments built the manufacturing facilities, and all the supplied equipment including lathers supplied by germany to make parts had been accounted for by the UN weapons inspectors.

Belguim for example built Saddams hardened air bases, and i know for a fact these plans were in place to allow the nice orderly bombing of saddams airforce pretty much day one in Jan 1991.

When you know this, have a list of stuff to find with serial numbers, and then you find them in a factory thats been known for 15 years you simply blow it up, and then mark those items as destroyed!

That's what they did! They traced everything that could be traced and what they couldn't find was either incapable of production, or had passed it's sell by date!

Read Scott Ritters book, then you might be a little more aware of what they did and how frankly lies were perpetrated by those in charge.
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Apr 8, 2009 9:25 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
webbs
webbswebbsLexington, Michigan USA3 Threads 283 Posts
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Apr 8, 2009 9:28 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
webbs
webbswebbsLexington, Michigan USA3 Threads 283 Posts
I forgot to quote Zee. My response was a reaction to his post and NOT because I have any trust in Obama. I liked Zee's remark.
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Apr 8, 2009 11:27 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
RobbieM: Maybe you need to learn a bit of how the weapons inspectors do their job, or the fact that intelligence officers were embedded within the security inspections.

Saddam locked these people out for this reason, and with complete satellite coverage,insider help and years of weapons inspections you can be damn sure as Hans Blix and Scott Ritter said that there was nothing left to find.

Chemical warfare supplied for the war against Iran by the way all has a sell by date.

Anything left buried in the desert would have passed it's sell by date....and although not nice to wash in or drink couldn't kill people.

You might not be aware, but the US Marines obtain plans for every building they need to assault, so they have a plan in place if they need to go.

Western governments built the manufacturing facilities, and all the supplied equipment including lathers supplied by germany to make parts had been accounted for by the UN weapons inspectors.

Belguim for example built Saddams hardened air bases, and i know for a fact these plans were in place to allow the nice orderly bombing of saddams airforce pretty much day one in Jan 1991.

When you know this, have a list of stuff to find with serial numbers, and then you find them in a factory thats been known for 15 years you simply blow it up, and then mark those items as destroyed!

That's what they did! They traced everything that could be traced and what they couldn't find was either incapable of production, or had passed it's sell by date!

Read Scott Ritters book, then you might be a little more aware of what they did and how frankly lies were perpetrated by those in charge.


You know this because you spent how much time over in Iraq?

zee
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Apr 8, 2009 11:32 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
kitty01: I know I will get in trouble for this, but I believe Obama might be the anti christ, and we are in the end times.


I thought that too!

He's either the Anti Christ or The Second Coming depending on which side of the fence you're on................ me? - I'm just sitting on the fence and think he's an ok guy and wish him well.
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Apr 8, 2009 11:43 PM CST A Canadian and Obama.
woody636
woody636woody636Elgin, Illinois USA3 Threads 1,267 Posts
rusty_knight: I thought that too!

He's either the Anti Christ or The Second Coming depending on which side of the fence you're on................ me? - I'm just sitting on the fence and think he's an ok guy and wish him well.


thumbs up thumbs up The way people talk about him reminds me a lot of Kennedy. Kennedy was a great speaker too and could invigorate people. Only time will tell if Obama will make a good president. Personally, I don't think he has enough political pull to carry it off. We shall see!
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Apr 9, 2009 12:02 AM CST A Canadian and Obama.
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
...............thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up ................

J.D
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Apr 9, 2009 12:06 AM CST A Canadian and Obama.
rocketqueen
rocketqueenrocketqueengeelong, Victoria Australia23 Threads 1 Polls 2,003 Posts
kitty01: I know I will get in trouble for this, but I believe Obama might be the anti christ, and we are in the end times.


kitty i dont thik you realise in that statement you are actually nreaking the law that your so holy george doubleya bought in .....it called dissent against government bill........
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Apr 9, 2009 12:08 AM CST A Canadian and Obama.
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Nooooooo I am not...I happen to value human life more than somebody's desire to kill....


......Nicely said......thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up

J.D
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Apr 9, 2009 12:14 AM CST A Canadian and Obama.
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
woody636: Not sure if I agree with that or not. Hope is wonderful, I agree, but there has to be some substance - not all smoke and flash. We REALLY need someone who can get some changes made. Obama talks a good game, but can he deliver?? Not so sure. The proposals I've seen so far impact me in a really less then desireable way. Same with S.S., military health benefits, ect.. Granted, these are only proposals as yet, but what I see is the middle income getting taxed to death to help out the poor and the top dogs still get theirs with the loopholes.


Obama can't actually do anything..... it's up to the millions of people who are US citizens (apart from the rest of us in other countries) to make this world a better place; no single politician can get on stahe and wave a magic wand or pass a piece of legislation that solves any problems in itself.

The problems are way too serious for any simple solution........ so the ONLY thing of any impact that Obama can do is inspire people and try and prevent them from giving up hope which will only increase the downward economic spiral.

Financial markets are run, mostly, by human beings and reflect (above anything else) how people perceive the future...... if people perceive their glass in the future as being three quarters EMPTY or they perceive their glasses as being a quarter FULL the facts will be the same, but the markets will go UP instead of DOWN!
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Apr 9, 2009 3:14 AM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Indyfella: Cuz Clinton was too worried about his popularity.
Now there was a President's President!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing














uh oh mumbling
















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Apr 9, 2009 3:19 AM CST A Canadian and Obama.
Indyfella: Like Harry Reid said...the war is lost. But on the other hand Obummer said he was proud of the work done in Iraq by our troops. It would kill Obummer to say "we won"...
What you expect from a Schnorrer?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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