The "Health Insurance Company Protection Act"? (63)
I am for the Democratic version. How did you like Boehner with his prop copy of the Constitution mixing up the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence? I think I learned these in 8th grade....
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ooby_dooby: The House Republicans just released their version of health reform. It's a disaster -- so outrageous that Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz has dubbed it the "Health Insurance Company Protection Act" -- but Republicans are arguing it's the key to real reform.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says it would barely make a dent in most of our premiums, and could lead to higher premiums for older Americans.
The New York Times reports that it doesn't stop insurers from refusing to cover you because of a pre-existing condition.
The CBO's research shows that the GOP plan would likely cut the deficit by just $68 billion over the next ten years -- far less than the Democratic bill, which cuts the deficit by $104 billion over the same period.
The CBO also estimates that under the Republican bill the number of uninsured Americans would actually increase to 52 million by 2019.
And Politico writes that the Republican's so-called plan doesn't keep insurers from dropping you when you're sick -- it just makes them let you know that you're being dropped.
The Democratic bill in the House is what America actually needs. It stops insurance companies from refusing coverage because of a pre-existing condition. It prevents them from denying you care when you get sick. It will help lower premiums for our families and businesses, and will cover 33 million more people than the Republican bill.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says it would barely make a dent in most of our premiums, and could lead to higher premiums for older Americans.
The New York Times reports that it doesn't stop insurers from refusing to cover you because of a pre-existing condition.
The CBO's research shows that the GOP plan would likely cut the deficit by just $68 billion over the next ten years -- far less than the Democratic bill, which cuts the deficit by $104 billion over the same period.
The CBO also estimates that under the Republican bill the number of uninsured Americans would actually increase to 52 million by 2019.
And Politico writes that the Republican's so-called plan doesn't keep insurers from dropping you when you're sick -- it just makes them let you know that you're being dropped.
The Democratic bill in the House is what America actually needs. It stops insurance companies from refusing coverage because of a pre-existing condition. It prevents them from denying you care when you get sick. It will help lower premiums for our families and businesses, and will cover 33 million more people than the Republican bill.
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Isn't politics fun? 
I honestly feel that neither the Republicans or Democrats really care about the American people when it comes to them making their reforms and new laws, regulations, and so on. The lobbyist have an amazing control over Congress. Its really very sad. If you take the time to read the potential bills (even just part of them) you can usually tell fairly quickly which company is supporting it.
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ooby_dooby: The House Republicans just released their version of health reform. It's a disaster -- so outrageous that Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz has dubbed it the "Health Insurance Company Protection Act" -- but Republicans are arguing it's the key to real reform.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says it would barely make a dent in most of our premiums, and could lead to higher premiums for older Americans.
The New York Times reports that it doesn't stop insurers from refusing to cover you because of a pre-existing condition.
The CBO's research shows that the GOP plan would likely cut the deficit by just $68 billion over the next ten years -- far less than the Democratic bill, which cuts the deficit by $104 billion over the same period.
The CBO also estimates that under the Republican bill the number of uninsured Americans would actually increase to 52 million by 2019.
And Politico writes that the Republican's so-called plan doesn't keep insurers from dropping you when you're sick -- it just makes them let you know that you're being dropped.
The Democratic bill in the House is what America actually needs. It stops insurance companies from refusing coverage because of a pre-existing condition. It prevents them from denying you care when you get sick. It will help lower premiums for our families and businesses, and will cover 33 million more people than the Republican bill.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says it would barely make a dent in most of our premiums, and could lead to higher premiums for older Americans.
The New York Times reports that it doesn't stop insurers from refusing to cover you because of a pre-existing condition.
The CBO's research shows that the GOP plan would likely cut the deficit by just $68 billion over the next ten years -- far less than the Democratic bill, which cuts the deficit by $104 billion over the same period.
The CBO also estimates that under the Republican bill the number of uninsured Americans would actually increase to 52 million by 2019.
And Politico writes that the Republican's so-called plan doesn't keep insurers from dropping you when you're sick -- it just makes them let you know that you're being dropped.
The Democratic bill in the House is what America actually needs. It stops insurance companies from refusing coverage because of a pre-existing condition. It prevents them from denying you care when you get sick. It will help lower premiums for our families and businesses, and will cover 33 million more people than the Republican bill.
Have you read any of the democrat bill, probably not, do some research. If you want your health to be controlled by the govt., just remember there's a huge deficet and it's growing faster than it ever has in history, social security is growing broke, medicare is going broke, the drug coverage is costing billions more than predicted, etc. Doesn't sound good to me.
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duckrew: Have you read any of the democrat bill, probably not, do some research. If you want your health to be controlled by the govt., just remember there's a huge deficet and it's growing faster than it ever has in history, social security is growing broke, medicare is going broke, the drug coverage is costing billions more than predicted, etc. Doesn't sound good to me.
I haven't read it have you? Probably not. This thread represents research I've done. My healthcare is already controlled by a federal branch of government and I'm very satisfied with it thank you. As for Social Security going broke, you are parroting the BS put forth by the Bush Administration which was based on totally bogus numbers from the Cato Institute 2005 which is why Social Security was never privatized when Bush wasted 6 months of his 2nd term trying to kill social security. The reason drug coverage is costing Americans so much can also be traced to George Bush when he made a deal with the Canadian PM if he, Martin, would put a stop to exporting drugs from Canada to Americans, he, Bush, would lift the ban on importing Canadian beef. So you see, I've done a bit of research on these topics.
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ooby_dooby: I haven't read it have you? Probably not. This thread represents research I've done. My healthcare is already controlled by a federal branch of government and I'm very satisfied with it thank you. As for Social Security going broke, you are parroting the BS put forth by the Bush Administration which was based on totally bogus numbers from the Cato Institute 2005 which is why Social Security was never privatized when Bush wasted 6 months of his 2nd term trying to kill social security. The reason drug coverage is costing Americans so much can also be traced to George Bush when he made a deal with the Canadian PM if he, Martin, would put a stop to exporting drugs from Canada to Americans, he, Bush, would lift the ban on importing Canadian beef. So you see, I've done a bit of research on these topics.
It's too long to read, much less understand. What I have read is scary, why not make a few changes at a time, see what works and what doesn't. Sure would like to have the government out of my life.
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duckrew: It's too long to read, much less understand. What I have read is scary, why not make a few changes at a time, see what works and what doesn't. Sure would like to have the government out of my life.
Give me a break will ya? You can get the govt out of your life very easily, just send that Social Security check you get every month back to the govt. Then you'll be on your own. You'll be a full fledged member of the "Ownership Society".BTW, I'm going to bed.
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alexey8: ai yai yai yai yai Isn't politics fun?
I honestly feel that neither the Republicans or Democrats really care about the American people when it comes to them making their reforms and new laws, regulations, and so on. The lobbyist have an amazing control over Congress. Its really very sad. If you take the time to read the potential bills (even just part of them) you can usually tell fairly quickly which company is supporting it.
I honestly feel that neither the Republicans or Democrats really care about the American people when it comes to them making their reforms and new laws, regulations, and so on. The lobbyist have an amazing control over Congress. Its really very sad. If you take the time to read the potential bills (even just part of them) you can usually tell fairly quickly which company is supporting it.
Come on!
The lobbyists paid good money for those Congress men and women. They should get to use them as they see fit.
All we did was pay our taxes and the ever increasing cost of living.
Sadly money talks.
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I don't care which plans congress passes so long as they don't screw with my current health care plan and they gurantee that my tax dollars will not have to pay for someone elses insurance.
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toranoga: I don't care which plans congress passes so long as they don't screw with my current health care plan and they gurantee that my tax dollars will not have to pay for someone elses insurance.
That's a totally legitimate concern but from what I read a little competition in the healthcare insurance industry will force these big insurance co's to loosen up the stranglehold they have on the public. This is why they are paying millions to lobbyists and any politician they can corrupt to kill the public option. Medical insurance is the biggest scam there is in America, in fact the whole concept of insurance is a scam but that's another story.------ This thread is Archived ------
ooby_dooby: That's a totally legitimate concern but from what I read a little competition in the healthcare insurance industry will force these big insurance co's to loosen up the stranglehold they have on the public. This is why they are paying millions to lobbyists and any politician they can corrupt to kill the public option. Medical insurance is the biggest scam there is in America, in fact the whole concept of insurance is a scam but that's another story.
But why should the Lobbyists pay the republicans,who have no way to get their Version made into Law? 
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Conrad73: But why should the Lobbyists pay the republicans,who have no way to get their Version made into Law?
The goal is not to get their version into law, it is to block any changes what-so-ever and maintain the status quo so they can continue extracting Billions of dollars from the working public.------ This thread is Archived ------
ooby_dooby: The goal is not to get their version into law, it is to block any changes what-so-ever and maintain the status quo so they can continue extracting Billions of dollars from the working public.
Isn't that the normal Business of all Politicians,collect Protection Money,for Services not rendered?More and more like the Mafia!
Labels don't mean Crap anymore.
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ooby_dooby: The goal is not to get their version into law, it is to block any changes what-so-ever and maintain the status quo so they can continue extracting Billions of dollars from the working public.
Thank you sir! This is a very important issue facing us ALL!
If our "electeds" fail us now, we will still have to deal with it.
Robbing us of 5 bucks a gallon, so we can wheel around is ONE thing...
Lifesaving medical "care" that costs our FAMILY's HOME, or Rx needed to survive that costs a YEAR's PAY per month!
Well sheeple... has this not gone FAR ENOUGH!?
E-mail your Rep! Call the 1.800. toll free congressional switchboard, GIVE THEM AN EARFULL!
They are supposed to work for you! But WILL NOT, if they know that you are not paying attention to their actions.
Credo, moveon, truemajority, all great action networks with simply "clicked" links to CONTACT YOUR REP!!
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No more of a scam than FannieMae, FreddieMac, GM, GMAC, Chrysler, Cash for Clunkers, AIG, C.B. Richard Ellis(owned in part by the husband of Nancy Pelosi), Countrywide Financial(Chris Dodd, Kent Conrad, etal) and the list goes on and on.
The current health care bill will impact my current insurance coverage and will spend my tax dollars, even though speaker Pelosi just said "it will not cost the tax payers one dollar". When was the last time a government program cost the taxpayer nothing over the long term? Medicare, which went into negative cash flow in September and October, Medicade which has always been a net cost to taxpayers, the savings and loan bailout from the 1980's, LTCM and Lehman from the 1990's?
Why do we have a current budget deficit of $1.42T excluding off budget expenditures, an existing debt of $12T and contingent liabilities including local and state governments of $78T if government is so great at doing all of these things?
The current health care bill will impact my current insurance coverage and will spend my tax dollars, even though speaker Pelosi just said "it will not cost the tax payers one dollar". When was the last time a government program cost the taxpayer nothing over the long term? Medicare, which went into negative cash flow in September and October, Medicade which has always been a net cost to taxpayers, the savings and loan bailout from the 1980's, LTCM and Lehman from the 1990's?
Why do we have a current budget deficit of $1.42T excluding off budget expenditures, an existing debt of $12T and contingent liabilities including local and state governments of $78T if government is so great at doing all of these things?
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ooby_dooby: I haven't read it have you? Probably not. This thread represents research I've done. My healthcare is already controlled by a federal branch of government and I'm very satisfied with it thank you. As for Social Security going broke, you are parroting the BS put forth by the Bush Administration which was based on totally bogus numbers from the Cato Institute 2005 which is why Social Security was never privatized when Bush wasted 6 months of his 2nd term trying to kill social security. The reason drug coverage is costing Americans so much can also be traced to George Bush when he made a deal with the Canadian PM if he, Martin, would put a stop to exporting drugs from Canada to Americans, he, Bush, would lift the ban on importing Canadian beef. So you see, I've done a bit of research on these topics.
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alexey8: ai yai yai yai yai Isn't politics fun?
I honestly feel that neither the Republicans or Democrats really care about the American people when it comes to them making their reforms and new laws, regulations, and so on. The lobbyist have an amazing control over Congress. Its really very sad. If you take the time to read the potential bills (even just part of them) you can usually tell fairly quickly which company is supporting it.
I honestly feel that neither the Republicans or Democrats really care about the American people when it comes to them making their reforms and new laws, regulations, and so on. The lobbyist have an amazing control over Congress. Its really very sad. If you take the time to read the potential bills (even just part of them) you can usually tell fairly quickly which company is supporting it.
The Medical Insurance lobbies have been spending 1.4 million per day in DC all year long!!
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AmoroArboles: Thank you sir! This is a very important issue facing us ALL!
If our "electeds" fail us now, we will still have to deal with it.
Robbing us of 5 bucks a gallon, so we can wheel around is ONE thing...
Lifesaving medical "care" that costs our FAMILY's HOME, or Rx needed to survive that costs a YEAR's PAY per month!
Well sheeple... has this not gone FAR ENOUGH!?
E-mail your Rep! Call the 1.800. toll free congressional switchboard, GIVE THEM AN EARFULL!
They are supposed to work for you! But WILL NOT, if they know that you are not paying attention to their actions.
Credo, moveon, truemajority, all great action networks with simply "clicked" links to CONTACT YOUR REP!!
If our "electeds" fail us now, we will still have to deal with it.
Robbing us of 5 bucks a gallon, so we can wheel around is ONE thing...
Lifesaving medical "care" that costs our FAMILY's HOME, or Rx needed to survive that costs a YEAR's PAY per month!
Well sheeple... has this not gone FAR ENOUGH!?
E-mail your Rep! Call the 1.800. toll free congressional switchboard, GIVE THEM AN EARFULL!
They are supposed to work for you! But WILL NOT, if they know that you are not paying attention to their actions.
Credo, moveon, truemajority, all great action networks with simply "clicked" links to CONTACT YOUR REP!!
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Conrad73: Isn't that the normal Business of all Politicians,collect Protection Money,for Services not rendered?
More and more like the Mafia!
Labels don't mean Crap anymore.
More and more like the Mafia!
Labels don't mean Crap anymore.
The Don would take better care of us than those a**hole in D.C.
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ooby_dooby: I haven't read it have you? Probably not. This thread represents research I've done. My healthcare is already controlled by a federal branch of government and I'm very satisfied with it thank you. As for Social Security going broke, you are parroting the BS put forth by the Bush Administration which was based on totally bogus numbers from the Cato Institute 2005 which is why Social Security was never privatized when Bush wasted 6 months of his 2nd term trying to kill social security. The reason drug coverage is costing Americans so much can also be traced to George Bush when he made a deal with the Canadian PM if he, Martin, would put a stop to exporting drugs from Canada to Americans, he, Bush, would lift the ban on importing Canadian beef. So you see, I've done a bit of research on these topics.
The Democratic Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee,
Max Baucass stated Wednesday night, December 23rd, the evening before the final Senate vote on the bill, that Social Security is BROKE and they would not be able to make the January Benefit payments if the Bill did not pass!!!
With the passing of the Bill, the new Federal Taxes go into effect January 2010 and they are counting on those Tax Dollars to support the payouts. Max Baucauss stated that they could borrow no more money and the country is headed for Bankruptcy if the Bill did not pass.
Of course they could not state this to the American People, as Max stated they had Overspent! They voted in Bailouts which 95% of the American People told them not to do!! They put us in the position we are in and now they expect US to bail them out!!
What a bunch of incompetents!! And they think WE are stupid???!!
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The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says it would barely make a dent in most of our premiums, and could lead to higher premiums for older Americans.
The New York Times reports that it doesn't stop insurers from refusing to cover you because of a pre-existing condition.
The CBO's research shows that the GOP plan would likely cut the deficit by just $68 billion over the next ten years -- far less than the Democratic bill, which cuts the deficit by $104 billion over the same period.
The CBO also estimates that under the Republican bill the number of uninsured Americans would actually increase to 52 million by 2019.
And Politico writes that the Republican's so-called plan doesn't keep insurers from dropping you when you're sick -- it just makes them let you know that you're being dropped.
The Democratic bill in the House is what America actually needs. It stops insurance companies from refusing coverage because of a pre-existing condition. It prevents them from denying you care when you get sick. It will help lower premiums for our families and businesses, and will cover 33 million more people than the Republican bill.