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Dec 25, 2009 2:09 AM CST Swedish dating
Stockholm76
Stockholm76Stockholm76stockholm, Stockholm Sweden6 Threads 3 Polls 20 Posts
I am curious to know if there are other woman (swedish and non swedish) experiencing the same things as me when it comes to dating swedish men? I have lived here now 10 years and came to Sweden because of what I thought was true love. It lasted 5 years and since then I have not dated a single swedish guy on a steady basis. I have been here long enough to feel like the men here are less intrested in dating seriously and starting a family. Especially in Stockholm. Singles here are cold as ice and I really wish I could find that envelope full of hope. Last 5 years has been a dating nightmare. Seriously is it just Sweden och is it just Stockholm where this is happening? I am at my wits end and would not say I am desperate but just enormously dissapointed that I have had to experience this, I am in my prime years and certainly I am not that repugnant or undesirable. A normal girl with normal hopes in finding my mister right again seems very distant here in Sweden. Please correct me if I am wrong. I can add that I experience being a non native here has only been a downfall here, seeing as not having all the friends that swedes do, going to parties and meeting people through work. Certainly there must be more people like me not having that advantage in dating here? teddybear
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Dec 25, 2009 4:27 AM CST Swedish dating
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Stockholm76: I am curious to know if there are other woman (swedish and non swedish) experiencing the same things as me when it comes to dating swedish men? I have lived here now 10 years and came to Sweden because of what I thought was true love. It lasted 5 years and since then I have not dated a single swedish guy on a steady basis. I have been here long enough to feel like the men here are less intrested in dating seriously and starting a family. Especially in Stockholm. Singles here are cold as ice and I really wish I could find that envelope full of hope. Last 5 years has been a dating nightmare. Seriously is it just Sweden och is it just Stockholm where this is happening? I am at my wits end and would not say I am desperate but just enormously dissapointed that I have had to experience this, I am in my prime years and certainly I am not that repugnant or undesirable. A normal girl with normal hopes in finding my mister right again seems very distant here in Sweden. Please correct me if I am wrong. I can add that I experience being a non native here has only been a downfall here, seeing as not having all the friends that swedes do, going to parties and meeting people through work. Certainly there must be more people like me not having that advantage in dating here?



perhaps in a warmer climate - people are warmer- the swedes seem to also chill out in that situation
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Dec 25, 2009 5:08 AM CST Swedish dating
Nina3
Nina3Nina3Barcelona, Catalonia Spain16 Threads 3 Polls 919 Posts
Stockholm76: I am curious to know if there are other woman (swedish and non swedish) experiencing the same things as me when it comes to dating swedish men? I have lived here now 10 years and came to Sweden because of what I thought was true love. It lasted 5 years and since then I have not dated a single swedish guy on a steady basis. I have been here long enough to feel like the men here are less intrested in dating seriously and starting a family. Especially in Stockholm. Singles here are cold as ice and I really wish I could find that envelope full of hope. Last 5 years has been a dating nightmare. Seriously is it just Sweden och is it just Stockholm where this is happening? I am at my wits end and would not say I am desperate but just enormously dissapointed that I have had to experience this, I am in my prime years and certainly I am not that repugnant or undesirable. A normal girl with normal hopes in finding my mister right again seems very distant here in Sweden. Please correct me if I am wrong. I can add that I experience being a non native here has only been a downfall here, seeing as not having all the friends that swedes do, going to parties and meeting people through work. Certainly there must be more people like me not having that advantage in dating here?



Hej! wave

I am sorry to hear about your frustration at the dating scene there. I am a Swede who lived in Stockholm for a year recently, other than that abroad off and on for half my life, working in international environments (including the US - is that where you're from?). My ex husband is American, and moved to Sweden with me, and he has been happy living there for 20 years now.

Right off the bat it sounds to me like this is a question of cultural differences perhaps. You say yourself that you don't meet Swedes through work etc, the way the locals do. I know from experience how easy it is to get stuck in the expat bubble when living in a foreign country, whereby you unintentionally miss out on meeting the local people, etc.

I know that Swedes/Scandinavians often appear to outsiders as being cold - and I also know that they are not cold, usually. They are often brought up to talk to others when they have something to say - not just to fill up silences in converstation. All cultures are different, and all have their charms. A typical Swede might appear to be a bit cold socially, because they are not used to socializing by being chatty and open with everyone they meet. Once you get to know them, however, they are usually kind, interested in your culture, and will be a real friend. Swedes usually don't let people into their lives without being sincere about being friends. For these reasons, many Swedes can be sceptical towards other cultures and people where there is a lot of 'small talk', which they see as superficial and perhaps even dishonest.

I speak here of course in general terms, but since I am a native of your host country, I think I can do that.

There is so much more to this, but please don't give up on Stockholm and Swedes - you could miss out on a great experience.

'God Jul!' santa waving
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Dec 25, 2009 8:12 AM CST Swedish dating
Stockholm76
Stockholm76Stockholm76stockholm, Stockholm Sweden6 Threads 3 Polls 20 Posts
Hello,

Since I have been in Sweden 10 years I know that culture is a huge part of this frustration and really not knowing how to "act like the native" seems as though job and career are very important even to me but finding work in Sweden is also difficult thus the frustration in finding a suitable single person through work is difficult. I work in a small company mostly women :( but there is a certain afraidness of accepting in outsiders into the inside there is maybe where I get most frustrtaed.

My home country of USA dating is totally different and yes we do hae lots of "small talk" but usually even the least popular person feels somewhat part of things. Just really hard thing to digest when I kmow the swedes are really good people! hey just need to open the high gate and let someone new in! :) God Jul!
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Dec 25, 2009 9:14 AM CST Swedish dating
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
I've been living in Sweden for 10 years now. I'm from California and there is--yes--a huge difference in how the two cultures express themselves and interact during social exchanges. Apparently it's frowned upon to express too much too soon...it frightens the Swedes hahaha. Swedes in general are very shy, stoical, reclusive, diplomatic, and humble in public, especially with strangers...more so among the men and the older generations. It's culture. The women are more open imo.

On the other hand, I've experienced Swedes to be the opposite once you know them and behind closed doors. They are just as emotional as any other people---especially when they are drinking lol.

In any case, I've been fortunate to know some Swedes who do not fall under the typical "cold" label. These are the people who have traveled a bit around the world and have seen other cultures.

I really think cold is unfair label. Shy and afraid to be themselves is what I see among the general public...especially for the Swedes who come from isolated small towns---there are many of them in Sweden and the land to people ratio is pretty high---meaning Sweden is not a densely populated region. I always laugh when I see a friend at the store or something and kinda raise my voice like "what's going on", then all the Swedes look at me like I am breaking the law. lol...
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Dec 25, 2009 9:24 AM CST Swedish dating
nottibelle
nottibellenottibellesmall village, Gavleborg Sweden2 Threads 24 Posts
StressFree: I've been living in Sweden for 10 years now. I'm from California and there is--yes--a huge difference in how the two cultures express themselves and interact during social exchanges. Apparently it's frowned upon to express too much too soon...it frightens the Swedes hahaha. Swedes in general are very shy, stoical, reclusive, diplomatic, and humble in public, especially with strangers...more so among the men and the older generations. It's culture. The women are more open imo.

On the other hand, I've experienced Swedes to be the opposite once you know them and behind closed doors. They are just as emotional as any other people---especially when they are drinking lol.

In any case, I've been fortunate to know some Swedes who do not fall under the typical "cold" label. These are the people who have traveled a bit around the world and have seen other cultures.

I really think cold is unfair label. Shy and afraid to be themselves is what I see among the general public...especially for the Swedes who come from isolated small towns---there are many of them in Sweden and the land to people ratio is pretty high---meaning Sweden is not a densely populated region. I always laugh when I see a friend at the store or something and kinda raise my voice like "what's going on", then all the Swedes look at me like I am breaking the law. lol...

My swedish ex always told me that i speak too much and too loud, i have been here 15 years, still not completely adjusted, pobably never will, i gave up on that. i can say that men like me, women may show that they like me, but careful(suspicious), just my impression
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Dec 25, 2009 9:45 AM CST Swedish dating
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
nottibelle: My swedish ex always told me that i speak too much and too loud, i have been here 15 years, still not completely adjusted, pobably never will, i gave up on that. i can say that men like me, women may show that they like me, but careful(suspicious), just my impression



Good point! I had a Swedish boyfriend and I have a Swedish friend ... and sometimes ago when we broke up with my Swedish boyfriend ... I've met a Swedish biker( very bad boy btw) and we have met in Island just for a wee travel together .... Even being very careful(suspisious) in the begining ... he began to warm up when he understood that I am not a bubbly woman. We had a blast in Island and we are still friends.

But being honest I would not want to marry a Swede, to me they are too moody and sensetive until they will get drunk ( you are right on on it Stress grin) and since I don't drink I don't think that we could make a life lasting couple.

laugh


I like Canadians they are very outgoing and easy to tame devil laugh
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Dec 25, 2009 9:47 AM CST Swedish dating
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Konigsberg: Good point! I had a Swedish boyfriend and I have a Swedish friend ... and sometimes ago when we broke up with my Swedish boyfriend ... I've met a Swedish biker( very bad boy btw) and we have met in Island just for a wee travel together .... Even being very careful(suspisious) in the begining ... he began to warm up when he understood that I am not a bubbly woman. We had a blast in Island and we are still friends.

But being honest I would not want to marry a Swede, to me they are too moody and sensetive until they will get drunk ( you are right on on it Stress ) and since I don't drink I don't think that we could make a life lasting couple.

I like Canadians they are very outgoing and easy to tame






p.s. And I am not a Canadian ... I am Russian - Canadian yay
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Dec 25, 2009 9:54 AM CST Swedish dating
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Aww Hell .........I was gonna go to Sweden to find my genetically perfect blonde for mate........but this just burst my bubble of enthusiasm for Swedish babes .....moping mumbling
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Dec 25, 2009 10:03 AM CST Swedish dating
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
jvaski: Aww Hell .........I was gonna go to Sweden to find my genetically perfect blonde for mate........but this just burst my bubble of enthusiasm for Swedish babes .....


It's all fun and games for a weekend...laugh
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Dec 25, 2009 10:36 AM CST Swedish dating
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
people, stuck in fear mode. sigh
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Dec 25, 2009 10:38 AM CST Swedish dating
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
bohdiprana: people, stuck in fear mode.


People .........thinking realistically .........dunno
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Dec 25, 2009 11:25 AM CST Swedish dating
nottibelle
nottibellenottibellesmall village, Gavleborg Sweden2 Threads 24 Posts
jvaski: Aww Hell .........I was gonna go to Sweden to find my genetically perfect blonde for mate........but this just burst my bubble of enthusiasm for Swedish babes .....

i read in a swedish newspaper that many swedish guys have to go and seek girls from thailand, because swedish babes are arrogant, drunk, shallow, materialistic, have a lot of demands, while thai women are nice, affectionate and family oriented.
i suppose all swedes are different like other people in the world, i had/have two swedish lovers, they are very different people. they are probaply a little reserved with people they don't know but none of them is cold. both of them are good in bed in completely different way.
i don't drink and never go to places when people have to be drunk to meet. i met my first lover via newspaper ad, another - on the internet,
OP, try local sites.
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Dec 25, 2009 11:28 AM CST Swedish dating
Nina3
Nina3Nina3Barcelona, Catalonia Spain16 Threads 3 Polls 919 Posts
StressFree: ... Apparently it's frowned upon to express too much too soon...it frightens the Swedes hahaha. Swedes in general are very shy, stoical, reclusive, diplomatic, and humble in public, especially with strangers...more so among the men and the older generations. It's culture. ...


Yes, there are many differences between American and Swedish customs, as I have learned over the years from American family members and living in the US, etc. I think this one has to do with Swedes wanting to really mean what they say, before they say anything - in this case wanting to be sure what they feel about someone or something, before expressing it. As opposed to Americans, who like to tell people exactly what they think of them and anything else from the start - it is their way of being sociable.


StressFree: On the other hand, I've experienced Swedes to be the opposite once you know them and behind closed doors. They are just as emotional as any other people---especially when they are drinking lol.


Exactly - once you get to know them, they are just like most people. Drinking has traditionally been a big part of Swedish culture (vikings - need I say more...), and unfortunately a lot of people use it as a crutch when socializing.


StressFree: In any case, I've been fortunate to know some Swedes who do not fall under the typical "cold" label. These are the people who have traveled a bit around the world and have seen other cultures.


I agree - well travelled people of any nationality are usually a bit more openminded, and perhaps even more sociable than many of their other countrymen. You do also need to keep in mind, though, that well travelled individuals are not only perhaps more familiar with the customs of your own country of origin, but also more used to speaking your language (unless you have managed to learn Swedish, of course laugh ). Swedes, like many others in the world, are known for being able to handle the English language pretty well, but are also known for not being very happy about talking any foreign language until they feel they have mastered it more or less fully (which is not the case with people from many other countries, where you use the English you know, and fill in the blanks with body language, etc).


StressFree: I really think cold is unfair label. Shy and afraid to be themselves is what I see among the general public... ... I always laugh when I see a friend at the store or something and kinda raise my voice like "what's going on", then all the Swedes look at me like I am breaking the law. lol...


There is also another factor which is very important to understand the Swedish mentality, that might not be as well known - this is in Swedish known as 'Jantelagen'. This is a code of conduct that goes back a long time in Swedish history, and basically says that you should not stand out in any way - not be better than anyone else, or show off in any way. This was due to the poverty at the time, and in order for everyone to show solidarity with each other (still a big mantra in Sweden). This is still very strongly encoded in the Swedish genes, and anyone who dares talk to much about their good fortune, success in life, etc, is quickly scorned publically. Therefore, anyone who is different than the majority of Swedes, or thinks in a different way, does things differently, is looked at quite suspiciously. Thus it is more natural for a Swede to 'be one in the crowd', than to stand out as an individual. This also includes showing emotions too much in general (unless in private).

God Jul!

dancingsanta
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Dec 25, 2009 12:46 PM CST Swedish dating
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
nottibelle: i read in a swedish newspaper that many swedish guys have to go and seek girls from thailand, because swedish babes are arrogant, drunk, shallow, materialistic, have a lot of demands, while thai women are nice, affectionate and family oriented.
i suppose all swedes are different like other people in the world, i had/have two swedish lovers, they are very different people. they are probaply a little reserved with people they don't know but none of them is cold. both of them are good in bed in completely different way.
i don't drink and never go to places when people have to be drunk to meet. i met my first lover via newspaper ad, another - on the internet,
OP, try local sites.


Do ya ever get the two guys together double-team for ya ? grin
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Dec 25, 2009 10:23 PM CST Swedish dating
cynthie
cynthiecynthieCold Mountain, North Carolina USA1 Threads 1 Polls 30 Posts
Stockholm76: I am curious to know if there are other woman (swedish and non swedish) experiencing the same things as me when it comes to dating swedish men? I have lived here now 10 years and came to Sweden because of what I thought was true love. It lasted 5 years and since then I have not dated a single swedish guy on a steady basis. I have been here long enough to feel like the men here are less intrested in dating seriously and starting a family. Especially in Stockholm. Singles here are cold as ice and I really wish I could find that envelope full of hope. Last 5 years has been a dating nightmare. Seriously is it just Sweden och is it just Stockholm where this is happening? I am at my wits end and would not say I am desperate but just enormously dissapointed that I have had to experience this, I am in my prime years and certainly I am not that repugnant or undesirable. A normal girl with normal hopes in finding my mister right again seems very distant here in Sweden. Please correct me if I am wrong. I can add that I experience being a non native here has only been a downfall here, seeing as not having all the friends that swedes do, going to parties and meeting people through work. Certainly there must be more people like me not having that advantage in dating here?


Oh, that sounds so frustrating. I've never dated a Swede but it seems that a lot of people are not truly interested in commitment. I think that's fine but it can leave those of us who are feeling left out in the cold, so to speak.
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Dec 25, 2009 10:49 PM CST Swedish dating
seems to me it's not just the swedes but European in general I met many a European and if you don't fall into there click....

I just got to the point where I don't care no more....
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Dec 25, 2009 11:07 PM CST Swedish dating
Bahman
BahmanBahmanTehran, Iran5 Posts
I have no idea about your case because it's a personal matter
But personally I like Scandinavian attitude
I think they are very logical and realistic
Also they have many great Metal bands like "AmonAmarth" and Archenemy!
head banger
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Dec 25, 2009 11:17 PM CST Swedish dating
navygirl1
navygirl1navygirl1Calgary, Alberta Canada6 Threads 1,586 Posts
Stockholm76: I am curious to know if there are other woman (swedish and non swedish) experiencing the same things as me when it comes to dating swedish men? I have lived here now 10 years and came to Sweden because of what I thought was true love. It lasted 5 years and since then I have not dated a single swedish guy on a steady basis. I have been here long enough to feel like the men here are less intrested in dating seriously and starting a family. Especially in Stockholm. Singles here are cold as ice and I really wish I could find that envelope full of hope. Last 5 years has been a dating nightmare. Seriously is it just Sweden och is it just Stockholm where this is happening? I am at my wits end and would not say I am desperate but just enormously dissapointed that I have had to experience this, I am in my prime years and certainly I am not that repugnant or undesirable. A normal girl with normal hopes in finding my mister right again seems very distant here in Sweden. Please correct me if I am wrong. I can add that I experience being a non native here has only been a downfall here, seeing as not having all the friends that swedes do, going to parties and meeting people through work. Certainly there must be more people like me not having that advantage in dating here?


Yeah you may be on to something. It gets pretty damn cold here in Canada and the men here are cold. I think I should be Australia bound. grin
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Dec 25, 2009 11:19 PM CST Swedish dating
scoutmaster
scoutmasterscoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA29 Threads 6 Polls 1,100 Posts
Well I dont know about dating guys but trying to meet a lady around here,,, Well I think I have a better chance of winning the lottery, I seem to be able to make a lot of contacts that live over 1000 miles away but everyone close enought to actualy date dont seem to want to actualy meet. I dont understand if someone doesent want to go out and get to know someone then why do the post a profile on a dating sight.
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