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Mar 6, 2010 1:16 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
K_rational
K_rationalK_rationalTaipei, Taiwan10 Threads 257 Posts
solitare: As someone who has had 'a free pass' from Interpol since the early 70's and have 'worked' for several intelligence services, I find the responses from the few US citizens to be simple 'knee jerk' reactions at best and laced with the usual paranoia of 'everyone is out to get us' hysteria.
The fact that Interpol has now, finally been given jurisdiction to operate openly as well as covertly in the US, would seem to me(playing the devil's advocate), be something that most US intelligence organizations would applaud simply because of all their frustrations at being handcuffed to obey their so called US constitutional constraints. Their Constitution, is nothing more than 'constipational' restraints and as always been so from any and all that I've ever met along the way. This has always been their loudest complaint. What all intelligence services, the world over agree with is that you can't fight an enemy with one hand tied behind your back, nor can any service be run by a bunch of appointed egomaniacal bureaucrats.
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You can call it the "Just US, just U.S., not justice" attitude of the extreme right in the US. They take the view that the US can invade other countries to impose "law and order" while actually doing lawlessness and disorder (e.g. Iraq and Afghanistan). Yet the notion that an external police agency like Interpol, which works within the laws of the country it operates in, can somehow be objective is alien to them.

The extremists in the US take the view that only the US can do right and know what's best for everyone. Then again, when such people talk about "exporting democracy", what they really mean is invading and removing it (thus, exporting it) as happened in Chile, Argentina, and numerous other nations (or attempted and failed, as in the case of Greece).

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Mar 6, 2010 1:17 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
In response to: Obama has given an international law enforcement organization that is accountable to no other national authority the ability to operate as it pleases within our own borders, and he has freed it from the most basic measure of official transparency and accountability, the FOIA.


A perfect example of Obama's globalist agenda.
He's not in office to protect America, he's there to do away with America and bring that part of the world into the globalist/socialist snare. No more sovereign nations, just one big monolithic global totalitarian system in which the people have no voice whatsoever.

It's not speculation, it's happening now.
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Mar 6, 2010 1:57 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
crucialone: Well Ireland has not started two wars that has killed over 140,000 innocent men , women and children. Now you tell me what GOOD the US has done for the WORLD recently?


Sorry Heathy, I know totally off the thread topic. But I could not resist.

What the US done recently? Took out the Taliban/AlQeada connection out of Afghanistan that was oppressing the Afghan people and was planning terrorism on a global basis. Then set up a flawed but working democracy in one of the poorest countries in the world. Pored tons of aid to the people. Rebuild roads and schools in the country. Demined 1000s of Russian left mines from the 1980s war there. Saw them and the Pakistani tribal region thru a massive earthquake. Help set up and train the Afghan army that will be a stablizing factor the country and region. Ran various program to remove opium trafficking and growing from the country.

Now let us talk about Iraq. Were the US took down a brutual dictator that the UN had reports that had killed some 495,000 of his own people to stay in power. Who twice has invaded neighboring countries for thier oil fields. Who had constructed 32 palaces for himself and family while most Iraqi were the poorest people of the region. Who had 3 of his son in laws murdered after they insulted his daughters with separation. Who had to two sons that were doing wedding night rapes of political opponents chidlren. A leader that oppressed both the Shia and Kurds of his country. And who used the Abu Grial prison for his own political prison torture house. Abu Grail has long history.....before the US was there. Set up a flawed but working democracy in the country.

At least al-Sadr how just gave his permission to the Shia to vote in it.....thinks it is fair enough. And the 1000s of expatriate Sunni that have voted in 6 foreign countries think so. And with
AlQeada of Iraq saying to the millions of Iraqi that vote....vote and die...and some will....but the millions will get the purple thumb think that is better than what they had under Sadam.

Yes the US has done something in the world.
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Mar 6, 2010 2:05 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
crucialone: Well Ireland has not started two wars that has killed over 140,000 innocent men , women and children. Now you tell me what GOOD the US has done for the WORLD recently?


FYI

The Iraqi gov't count is 87,815 Iraqi Civilian death....most of whom....were killed not by US military operations but by sectrarian violence between Sunni and Shia and terrorism by foreign fighter and alQeada of Iraq.

Will site sources for you. Find the 20 suspects in Dubai source yet? 4th time requested.
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Mar 6, 2010 2:16 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
ttom500: FYI

The Iraqi gov't count is 87,815 Iraqi Civilian death....most of whom....were killed not by US military operations but by sectrarian violence between Sunni and Shia and terrorism by foreign fighter and alQeada of Iraq.

Will site sources for you. Find the 20 suspects in Dubai source yet? 4th time requested.
He is only YAPPING as usual,trying to wreck threads!rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 6, 2010 2:20 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone
crucialonecrucialoneDublin, Ireland2 Threads 213 Posts
What the US done recently? Took out the Taliban/AlQeada connection out of Afghanistan that was oppressing the Afghan people and was planning terrorism on a global basis.

Took out that Taliban???? Really? I could have sworn I see them on the News every night. And the Taliban had very little to do with global terrorism...Are you mixing them up with Al Queda? And as I said 140,000 INNOCENTS have dies in them wars. Was it worth it? But you will think yes because the dead are not American!roll eyes


Then set up a flawed but working democracy in one of the poorest countries in the world. Pored tons of aid to the people. Rebuild roads and schools in the country. Demined 1000s of Russian left mines from the 1980s war there. Saw them and the Pakistani tribal region thru a massive earthquake. Help set up and train the Afghan army that will be a stablizing factor the country and region. Ran various program to remove opium trafficking and growing from the country

Dont you mean puppet government?confused You had to pour tons of aid in as you bloody destroyed the country with you bombing missions. Thats like me burning down your house and then looking for credit in helping rebuild it.roll eyes The Opium growing and distibution problem is BIGGER since the US invasion and the only reason any rail road was built is to help with the Oil pipeline you are planning on having your puppet government build. I asked what did the US do for the WORLD.....Not for itsself!roll eyes


Now let us talk about Iraq. Were the US took down a brutual dictator that the UN had reports that had killed some 495,000 of his own people to stay in power. Who twice has invaded neighboring countries for thier oil fields. Who had constructed 32 palaces for himself and family while most Iraqi were the poorest people of the region. Who had 3 of his son in laws murdered after they insulted his daughters with separation. Who had to two sons that were doing wedding night rapes of political opponents chidlren. A leader that oppressed both the Shia and Kurds of his country. And who used the Abu Grial prison for his own political prison torture house. Abu Grail has long history.....before the US was there. Set up a flawed but working democracy in the country.

Oh yes please. Lets talk about Iraq!!!! The US could have got rid of that dictator without Invading but they wanted another puppet government in charge so they would have a bigger say in Oil Pricing and to keep Oil trading in Dollars. The war started by the US has killed 140,000 INNOCENTS in 7 years.roll eyes
It was the US THAT ARMED IRAQ TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN!!!!! So how can you now say you were ridding the world of Sadam as it was the US who supported him during the Iran v Iraq war!!!!!!!roll eyes You have the cheesk to talk about torture and Prisons???????????? REALLY???? What about a certain place called guantanamo bay?????????? A little place were the US locked up men for years without trial and tortured them????? Sound familiar? Why can GW Bush do it and its OK but Sadam is a tyrant when he does it? Both are tyrants in my eyes!tongue

And you talk about Sadam looking after his family???????? Have you ever looked into the Bush family and how they have used their place in American politics to further the wealth and name of the family!!!!!? And your excuse for war was not regeime change!!!!!!! It was WMD's that were never there!!!!!!
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Mar 6, 2010 2:21 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
jvaski: Oh C'mon........everyone knows the whole world revolves around the USA .........



Uhhhh........I was kidding Menu ...........uh oh
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Mar 6, 2010 2:38 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
redkayak
redkayakredkayakStuart, Florida USA3 Threads 1 Polls 512 Posts
Conrad73: Big Mama Thornton ft. Buddy Guy - Hound Dog

You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mine

Well they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Yeah they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mine

You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mine
Well they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Yeah they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mineWell they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Ya know they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mine

You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
You ain't no friend of mine


No better way to describe him.......WTF....Lunatic fringe
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Mar 6, 2010 2:39 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
redkayak: No better way to describe him.......WTF....Lunatic fringe
He's only coming into threads to wreck them!
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Mar 6, 2010 2:44 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
Joyfullspirit
JoyfullspiritJoyfullspiritBenton Harbor, Michigan USA2 Threads 74 Posts
HealthyLiving: I post in the Current Events and Politics threads on CS as they are provided to those of us who are interested in this topic.

However, I would not consider it paranoia to post a thread such as this one. I am simply making an effort to inform those who may not know.

Get Informed.
Stay Informed.
Inform Others!

If you don't like it, you may not have the "need to know".
And so be it.

HL


And some of us do appreciate it!!wave
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Mar 6, 2010 2:46 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone
crucialonecrucialoneDublin, Ireland2 Threads 213 Posts
Mar 6, 2010 2:47 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone
crucialonecrucialoneDublin, Ireland2 Threads 213 Posts
Conrad73: He's only coming into threads to wreck them!


Why because i disagree with your right wing, anti islam, war mongering point of view?????roll eyes
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Mar 6, 2010 2:47 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone: Iraq and Afghanistan Innocent Body Count siteshttp://www.iraqbodycount.org/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_Warhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)
We don't open your Links!popcorn popcorn
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Mar 6, 2010 2:49 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone: Why because i disagree with your right wing, anti islam, war mongering point of view?????
Nope,you're just a smallminded Bilious little Man,with less manners than a five yearold!comfort
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Mar 6, 2010 2:55 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
redkayak
redkayakredkayakStuart, Florida USA3 Threads 1 Polls 512 Posts
Conrad73: He's only coming into threads to wreck them!


Ya well, you'll have that with people who only speak to hear themselves talk....And now I will go where no man has dared to go:.........Crucialone, you're a pathetic individual, one track mind egotistical narcissistic fool who thinks the rest of the world is stupid.....I for one find your take on life as to be totally pathetic in the fact that you cannot, and will not, see beyond your ridiculous rantings.....Get a dog, because no woman in the world would put up with your sorry specimen of a human being......No need to reply beacause it will justify my observastion......WTF, TOTAL FOOL...... drinking
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Mar 6, 2010 2:56 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone
crucialonecrucialoneDublin, Ireland2 Threads 213 Posts
Conrad73: Nope,you're just a smallminded Bilious little Man,with less manners than a five yearold!


Well I do believe you are the Bilious man. You are the one who post links to pictures of behadings and other awful things. You could not care less about the people of Iraq or Afghanistan as you sit in you comfortable chair in Switzerland. You are an old fool. You are the worst kind of war monger as you support death and violence to furter US economical reasons but you would probably faint at the sight of blood. barf barf barf barf
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Mar 6, 2010 2:59 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone: Well I do believe you are the Bilious man. You are the one who post links to pictures of behadings and other awful things. You could not care less about the people of Iraq or Afghanistan as you sit in you comfortable chair in Switzerland. You are an old fool. You are the worst kind of war monger as you support death and violence to furter US economical reasons but you would probably faint at the sight of blood.
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Yep,keep on puking Hound-Dog!rolling on the floor laughing
Btw,you selling Retail Abrasives?popcorn
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Mar 6, 2010 3:03 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone
crucialonecrucialoneDublin, Ireland2 Threads 213 Posts
redkayak: Ya well, you'll have that with people who only speak to hear themselves talk....And now I will go where no man has dared to go:.........Crucialone, you're a pathetic individual, one track mind egotistical narcissistic fool who thinks the rest of the world is stupid.....I for one find your take on life as to be totally pathetic in the fact that you cannot, and will not, see beyond your ridiculous rantings.....Get a dog, because no woman in the world would put up with your sorry specimen of a human being......No need to reply beacause it will justify my observastion......WTF, TOTAL FOOL......


Well you being an American right wing, gun tooting, Bush supporting fool i am delighted you don't like me. I would be worried if you did! Mt take on life is that ALL HUMAN life is important not just Western or US life. I believe an Iraqi baby has as much right to live as a US baby. But you obviously don't. You believe that 1400'000 innocents should die because 300 innocent Americans did. You are everything that is wrong with this world!
You treat human life like stats and figures and could not care less how many innocents die in your name so you can supposedly sleep better at night. You are a selfish, egotistical American who thinks they own the world and the whole world is here for your use and service. You disgust me. Karma will find you one day you vile human being. barf
Total selfish scumbag with no care for human life if they don't hold a US Passport!!!!!!!doh barf
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Mar 6, 2010 3:03 PM CST International Law Enforcement Operates in U.S.
crucialone: Well you being an American right wing, gun tooting, Bush supporting fool i am delighted you don't like me. I would be worried if you did! Mt take on life is that ALL HUMAN life is important not just Western or US life. I believe an Iraqi baby has as much right to live as a US baby. But you obviously don't. You believe that 1400'000 innocents should die because 300 innocent Americans did. You are everything that is wrong with this world!
You treat human life like stats and figures and could not care less how many innocents die in your name so you can supposedly sleep better at night. You are a selfish, egotistical American who thinks they own the world and the whole world is here for your use and service. You disgust me. Karma will find you one day you vile human being.
Total selfish scumbag with no care for human life if they don't hold a US Passport!!!!!!!
Temper ,temper,Irishman!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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crucialone
crucialonecrucialoneDublin, Ireland2 Threads 213 Posts
Conrad73: Yep,keep on puking Hound-Dog!
Btw,you selling Retail Abrasives?


I don't sell them. I but them and the stores sell them!roll eyes tongue
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