Takes a "village" to raise a child? ( Archived) (35)

Dec 7, 2010 9:45 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?
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Dec 7, 2010 9:47 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?
None.


I think it's the parents job to parent.
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Dec 7, 2010 9:50 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
So you don't think that if you are "absent" (for whatever reason) and they see your child involved in something they should not be doing, they shouldn't step in?
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Dec 7, 2010 9:52 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
wikked: So you don't think that if you are "absent" (for whatever reason) and they see your child involved in something they should not be doing, they shouldn't step in?


That's why we have the police.

Stepping in nowadays, certainly in my own country, can lad to a knife being slammed into you or a good beating.
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Dec 7, 2010 9:53 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Evil flourishes when good people turn a blind eye blues
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Dec 7, 2010 9:53 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
Steve5721: That's why we have the police.

Stepping in nowadays, certainly in my own country, can lad to a knife being slammed into you or a good beating.





I agree 100% about the police. That being said, if my child is being beat by someone, I definitely think someone should come to their aid, because I would theirs.

What I thought the OP was referring to was, that I should rely on neighbors or the community to parent for them.
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Dec 7, 2010 9:57 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
JSuburbia: I agree 100% about the police. That being said, if my child is being beat by someone, I definitely think someone should come to their aid, because I would theirs.

What I thought the OP was referring to was, that I should rely on neighbors or the community to parent for them.


But what if your child was the aggressor?

hear what you say JS, just in the UK it's dangerous. Kids stabbing kids for pocket money and IPods.

Oh, is she?

Okay...years ago, neighbours used to do that of course...then we had social services step in and the PC brigade.
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Dec 7, 2010 9:59 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
Steve5721: But what if your child was the aggressor?

hear what you say JS, just in the UK it's dangerous. Kids stabbing kids for pocket money and IPods.

Oh, is she?

Okay...years ago, neighbours used to do that of course...then we had social services step in and the PC brigade.



If my child is the aggressor, he/she deserves the what's coming to them. Don't get me wrong, I'll love the kid, but I have little sympathy for bullies.
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Dec 7, 2010 10:00 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?


Raising a child is not doubt the responsability of his/her parents and the best and worst a child can get in life is from his/her home.

However, this varies among cultures and in the ones that have extended family (Asian, Latin American....) a child is a treasure and we care for them as if every child is ours to some extent.

bouquet
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Dec 7, 2010 10:01 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
lilmamma71
lilmamma71lilmamma71St. Louis, Missouri USA31 Threads 1,345 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?


I think a lot of that depends on the community in which the children are being raised. I live in a small town and I know if the neighborhood kids are into trouble making and mischief one of the old blue haired ladies will see it and be running their mouth like the town crier.

However, I as a parent, believe if I see a kid in trouble in any way, I will feel horrible if I don't say something or let the incident go without being mentioned. I'm not "raising" someone's child per say, more than I am just doing the right thing.
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Dec 7, 2010 10:06 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
iamwhoiamyousee
iamwhoiamyouseeiamwhoiamyouseeanywhere, Bavaria Germany18 Threads 2 Polls 962 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?


My son is my responsibility and no one elses..and unless I gave them permission..they better keep their to be crude here..nose out of it..the only one beside me, my son will listen to is my best friend if I should be away..like hospital or the likes.
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Dec 7, 2010 10:31 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Steve5721: But what if your child was the aggressor?

hear what you say JS, just in the UK it's dangerous. Kids stabbing kids for pocket money and IPods.

Oh, is she?

Okay...years ago, neighbours used to do that of course...then we had social services step in and the PC brigade.


Hi Steve..

I purposely left the interpretation of my question open...it is interesting to see how each individual interprets "assisting in raising a child"...
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Dec 7, 2010 10:33 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?

As Russell Peters said in his standup comedy... White people, beat your children ...laugh
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Dec 7, 2010 10:35 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
plainlyjune
plainlyjuneplainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines12 Threads 2 Polls 8,175 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?
big time. Although indirectly, the community will have a big impact on a child's values.
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Dec 7, 2010 10:36 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
plainlyjune
plainlyjuneplainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines12 Threads 2 Polls 8,175 Posts
Boban1: As Russell Peters said in his standup comedy... White people, beat your children ...
thumbs up rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 7, 2010 10:37 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
plainlyjune
plainlyjuneplainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines12 Threads 2 Polls 8,175 Posts
lifeisadream: Raising a child is not doubt the responsability of his/her parents and the best and worst a child can get in life is from his/her home.

However, this varies among cultures and in the ones that have extended family (Asian, Latin American....) a child is a treasure and we care for them as if every child is ours to some extent.
wine wine
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Dec 7, 2010 10:47 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
SoldierByte
SoldierByteSoldierByteGrove, Oklahoma USA1,466 Posts
wikked: How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should take in assisting you to raise your child/children?



How much responsibility do you think the neighbourhood/community that you live in should takedoh




Unsure of whom or how to raise your kids..??confused
Move to the United States..
Here you can breed like a hamster,
let the state raise your lil rug-thugs,
and neither you nor the brats will
ever have to take responsibility for
ANY of YOUR choices or actions..innocent


nerd ---SoldierByte---typing
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Dec 7, 2010 10:54 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
imsophie1
imsophie1imsophie1Knox, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 501 Posts
IMHO you are confusing the title of this thread with involvement/responsibility.

"It takes a village to raise a child" means that every adult in a community should show all the children in a community by their own actions how to behave as intelligent, well-mannered adults. Since children learn by example, we should all act accordingly any time we're around children, our own or strangers' children.

Being a responsible adult and calling the authorities when a child is in trouble (or causing trouble) is all we can do these days. Any attempt to help anyone (in this sad world of ours) can/does often result in the "helper" being injured, killed, or ending up in serious legal trouble.

We are no longer safe lending assistance to anyone in trouble. If you're in a serious accident, it's likely no one will do anything more than call for help. Who wants to end up hurt or being fined (or doing jail time) for being a good samaritan?

Twelve years ago a tractor/trailer rearended my pickup twice. All three of us in the truck were injured. My ex got out and was trying to figure out how to get our daughter and I out. The driver who hit us called 911. Other drivers simply drove by the scene, gawking. Not one even stopped to ask if we were OK.

If I happen to come upon an accident scene, I will stop and call someone for the victims if necessary, and I will stay at the scene until help arrives. I'm not comfortable doing more than that for fear of repercussions. Were it a loved one involved, I would do more.
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Dec 7, 2010 11:29 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
missingLondon
missingLondonmissingLondonMsida, Majjistral Malta101 Threads 11 Polls 455 Posts
Steve5721: That's why we have the police.

Stepping in nowadays, certainly in my own country, can lad to a knife being slammed into you or a good beating.


Agree with Steve. When I lived in London on my way home I was once approached by a little girl saying she was lost. I spoke to her and was rescued by a child who said he was her cousin. All throughout I wondered if it was some kind of trap to mug me. Likewise at tube stations I would avoid gangs of kids like the plague.

Knife crime by kids is rife in the UK. Safest not to intervene and just head your way.
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Dec 8, 2010 5:44 AM CST Takes a "village" to raise a child?
TDRenewed
TDRenewedTDRenewedBelfast/Dublin, Antrim Ireland3 Threads 212 Posts
Shell225:

Each and every individual is the 'village' ..


So true..I find when we dont intervene for fear of 'PC' we have, as a result, a culture of youths without boundaries within the community they reside in. I have lived in some dodgy places, places that Steve has mentioned above...and brought my own values to that comunity. I can stand proud in saying that my actions have had a postive affect on a few.
One particular lad had a terrible reputation before he was 10yrs! He challenge all and many backed down from him out of fear..I didnt..I challenged him everytime he opened his 'foul mouth' using humour, I would then turn his actions back to him and asked him what he would do if someone spoke/treated him the way he does to others...I made him think..today..he is an apprentice carpenter and works with a team of youths in his community trying to turn it around
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